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Fox News poll (post CNN debate): Trump rises by 11%

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chadskin

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Trump: 39% (+11)
Cruz: 18% (+4)
Rubio: 11% (-3)
Carson: 9% (-9)
J!e?b: 3% (-2)
Christie: 3% (+/- 0)
Fiorina: 3% (+/- 0)
Paul: 3% (+1)
Kasich: 2% (+/- 0)

Huckabee, Santorum, Pataki, Graham, Gilmore all 1% or lower.

The Fox News Poll is conducted under the joint direction of Anderson Robbins Research (D) and Shaw & Company Research (R). The poll was conducted by telephone with live interviewers December 16-17, 2015 among a random national sample of 1,013 registered voters (RV). Results based on the full sample have a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

Landline and cellphone telephone numbers were randomly selected for inclusion in the survey using a probability proportionate to size method, which means that phone numbers for each state are proportional to the number of voters in each state.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/int...016-gop-race-trump-muslim-ban-terrorism-isis/
 
Good, good. I hope you enjoy watching your party devolve into a boiling vat of racism, sexism, bigotry, and xenophobia, Republicans...you've worked hard to get here.
 

ElTorro

I wanted to dominate the living room. Then I took an ESRAM in the knee.
Yeah but Cruz took his place. I'd rather have Carson. I don't hate his guts like I do Cruz.

Yeah, Cruz is definitely scarier. Probably even scarier than Trump. But at least you can understand why some right-winger would think that Cruz has appeal, even though I always cringe when I see and hear him speak. Carson, on the other hand, was just manifested nothingness: no charisma, no energy, no clue what he is saying. A maniac like Cruz at least has presence. But seeing Carson rise in the polls was scary in the sense that such voters would probably vote for absolutely anything.
 
Trump: 39% (+11)
Cruz: 18% (+4)
Rubio: 11% (-3)
Carson: 9% (-9)
J!e?b: 3% (-2)
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Trump: 39% (+11)
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But to be fair Jeb perpetually shot himself in the foot with his never-ending gaffes: Stuff happens (in the wake of a school shooting), work longer hours, anchor babies, meant asian anchor babies, free stuff, etc.

That shit hurts him in the general, hardly damaging when you have Trump running his mouth about banning Muslims and having 40%.

I honestly think it's clear, the primary GOP voters are tired of being burned by the establishment. "The only chance we win is if you vote for this moderate, trust us!"

Well, I think people are tired of going moderate and losing.
 
Race without Cruz:

Trump 46%
Rubio 15%
Carson 13%
Bush 4%
Christie 4%
Fiorina 3%
Paul 3%

Race without Trump:

Cruz 30%
Carson 16%
Rubio 16%
Christie 7%
Bush 4%
Huckabee 4%
Fiorina 3%
Kasich 3%
Paul 3%
 
That shit hurts him in the general, hardly damaging when you have Trump running his mouth about banning Muslims and having 40%.

I honestly think it's clear, the primary GOP voters are tired of being burned by the establishment. "The only chance we win is if you vote for this moderate, trust us!"

Well, I think people are tired of going moderate and losing.

Maybe it is just because I don't find this election humorous, nor a slam dunk for Democrats, and I don't like when one party (or both) races towards its extreme poles, but I'm at least hoping this isn't the case. I heard someone give an analogy the other day, either in print or on a podcast, that right now people are eyeing the sports car, but when it comes time to buy, they'll purchase the sedan or the SUV because it is practical.
 

bionic77

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Good, good. I hope you enjoy watching your party devolve into a boiling vat of racism, sexism, bigotry, and xenophobia, Republicans...you've worked hard to get here.
What?

How is this a good thing?

We need 2 choices in politics. Right now unless you are rich or a racist you have only one option. That is bad for everyone.
 

Clefargle

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What?

How is this a good thing?

We need 2 choices in politics. Right now unless you are rich or a racist you have only one option. That is bad for everyone.

Because the prior choices represented the same hateful ideals and rhetoric, just without being honest about it. Now the GOP has a to face a giant trump mirror and either evolve or splinter. That's why this is good. It is forcing conservatives to either own their hate or cut out the tumor that is the far right. Either way, anerica wins. (As long as trump doesn't win the general)
 
Because the prior choices represented the same hateful ideals and rhetoric, just without being honest about it. Now the GOP has a to face a giant trump mirror and either evolve or splinter. That's why this is good. It is forcing conservatives to either own their hate or cut out the tumor that is the far right. Either way, anerica wins. (As long as trump doesn't win the general)

"it's a win-win, unless it's not"
 

bionic77

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Because the prior choices represented the same hateful ideals and rhetoric, just without being honest about it. Now the GOP has a to face a giant trump mirror and either evolve or splinter. That's why this is good. It is forcing conservatives to either own their hate or cut out the tumor that is the far right. Either way, anerica wins. (As long as trump doesn't win the general)
I much prefer the whistling of dogs to this shit.
 

Downhome

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I'll stick this, that I posted in another thread, here also...

I'm gonna bump this because I didn't want to start a new thread, and this topic title goes the best with the news. A bunch of polls have been coming out today, and his numbers are higher than ever before, and his favorability is continuing to go up as well. Here is one example...

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/polls/263752-trumps-lead-grows-in-post-debate-poll

Presidential candidate Donald Trump is enjoying his largest lead over the GOP field following Tuesday's presidential debate, a new poll finds.

The post-debate survey from Public Policy Polling (PPP) released Friday shows the real estate mogul with 34 percent support nationally among GOP voters, up 8 points from a mid-November poll.

Trump's favorability has also grown. He's rated at 51 percent favorable, 37 unfavorable; an improvement over his 51-37 split in November.

“As the year comes to a close Donald Trump is just getting stronger,” Dean Debnam, president of PPP, said in a statement.

“His support for the nomination is growing but so is his overall favorability which suggests his ceiling could be higher than often assumed.”

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That sounds like the same thing unless favorable and unfavorable are reversed?

Here is what it meant to say (he is almost to 60%)...

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/donald-trump/

Trump is the biggest gainer since our last national poll in mid-November, going from 26% to 34%. He's also become more broadly popular with GOP voters, with his favorability rating going from 51/37 up to 58/34.
 
are people still confusing Trump's "he's not afraid to say what he wants" with "this idiot just doesn't have an off button and will say the first thing that comes to his mind"?
 

ZealousD

Makes world leading predictions like "The sun will rise tomorrow"
But to be fair Jeb perpetually shot himself in the foot with his never-ending gaffes: Stuff happens (in the wake of a school shooting), work longer hours, anchor babies, meant asian anchor babies, free stuff, etc.

And as everybody knows, it's impossible to be the front-runner for the Republican nomination if you're saying stupid stuff all the time.
 
are people still confusing Trump's "he's not afraid to say what he wants" with "this idiot just doesn't have an off button and will say the first thing that comes to his mind"?

Yes. He gets away with it because his audience lacks the intellectual capacity to understand that he's just rambling on about nothing. It is legitimately painful for anyone with an IQ above 85 to listen to him: when asked a simple and direct question, he simply rambles on about something different while dropping a phase here or there that is tangentially related to the core of the question that was asked.

I saw the comparison made somewhere else but it was on the fucking nose: Trump is the embodiment of every student that ever tried to bullshit their way through a question that they obviously didn't know the answer to.
 
The next two republican debates are in January (14th and 28th) hosted by Fox, Iowa votes Feb 1st followed by NH Feb 9th then SC and Nevada end of the month.

I wonder if they are going to narrow the field list for the next debate to 4 or 5, or wait for everyone other than the top 4 to drop out after the first 2 or 3 primaries.
 

Magni

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I kinda want to see Trump lose Iowa just to see how he reacts. His whole shtick has been "bitch look at the scoreboard", I'm curious as to what he'd say if he came in second (or worse).
 

Cerium

Member
I kinda want to see Trump lose Iowa just to see how he reacts. His whole shtick has been "bitch look at the scoreboard", I'm curious as to what he'd say if he came in second (or worse).

"Iowa is a terrible state, a bunch of corn farming losers. How stupid are the people of Iowa? On to New Hampshire, which is a smart state with smart voters!"
 
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