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PlayStation VR's external processor revealed.

Will they sell two versions, one with the camera plus PlayStation move and one without? Is the Move still supposed to be the primary input, I already own the camera but not Move. I can't imagine PSVR costing more than the PS4 so $350 seems a likely starting price point.

No. the DS4 has a LED on the front and mimics the move controller in many ways, and will likely be the standard controller. Howevere, there will of course be games that will require both one and two move controllers.
 

Stike

Member
which part?
They won't include the hardware in a PS4 SKU for two reasons:
- Including it as a selling point would require them to add the headset as well, so they could simply bundle it with the existing SKU instead.
- The benefit of space reduction is quickly eaten up by R&D to put it into the PS4, additionally it would increase the cost of the hardware which would be counterproductive to ever-decreasing the price of the PS4 to broaden the market appeal.
 

LiquidMetal14

hide your water-based mammals
I honestly think they've botched this. When has a Sony peripheral ever sold well. They tried so hard with Playstation Move and it totally bombed. I'll give them the fact that VR is the new hotness and its backed by other companies making similar moves, but this add on processor seems half baked.

What they really should have done is delay VR a year and bring it out with the Playstation 5 in 2017 or just to heck with it and bring out a new console and call it Playstation VR. I don't think the Playstation VR games are going to even look half as good as the Morpheus games running off a GTX970, so its probably going to be like PS3.5 quality stuff.
You're cynical about the mainstream and easy solution PSVR will offer then pray for PC as PSVR might have been announced later but it's a pivotal part of VR being a success.

And no one has made any gripes about these things being cheap. Not Oculus, HTC, or Sony.

The plug and play nature of this solution on PS4 will be one of the most potent and easiest to deliver.

VR isn't about realism as much as it is about that believable immersion.

I suggest people watch this good talk about VR to get a decent grasp on what game creators are seeing with PSVR.

https://youtu.be/M5rMGhDmFAQ
 

Stike

Member
399 isn't the sweet spot at all.

It would also make it more expensive than the console itself, which really isn't a good look.
True, but if you compare the price to the estimated prices of the other upcoming solutions, it is still on the lower end (not talking about cardboard or that stuff)
 

Madchad

Member
If the social aspect of this leads to a game being made that is similar to Knightmare TV show then ill be on board my parents will be on board my mates will be as well.

Hell they could even do a TV advert of a family sitting in the living room with 1 of the kids with the headset on and the rest of them guiding them through the dungeon to sell it to families.
 
That headset is a gorgeous piece of kit. Everything I've seen of PSVR suggests a price below £200 is a pipe dream. I can't see it costing much less than a PS4.
 
No. the DS4 has a LED on the front and mimics the move controller in many ways, and will likely be the standard controller. Howevere, there will of course be games that will require both one and two move controllers.

Dual Shock 4 would be a horrible replacement for a Move controller in VR. If I were Sony I'd ship a single Move and camera with every PSVR, so that developers would support Move controls, as well as make the device come with everything everyone needs. Price isn't an issue, Sony already warned us that it was going to be pricey, as expensive as a brand new game platform. So it's probably going to cost $400, the price of the most recent new game platform that Sony released.
 

JustenP88

I earned 100 Gamerscore™ for collecting 300 widgets and thereby created Trump's America
Hasn't SCE been doing insanely well lately? Maybe they're willing to Xbox it. Sell it at a loss to help get the tech off the ground.

I dunno. I'm cool to go in blind for anything less than $500.
 
They won't include the hardware in a PS4 SKU for two reasons:
- Including it as a selling point would require them to add the headset as well, so they could simply bundle it with the existing SKU instead.
- The benefit of space reduction is quickly eaten up by R&D to put it into the PS4, additionally it would increase the cost of the hardware which would be counterproductive to ever-decreasing the price of the PS4 to broaden the market appeal.

point 1: no it wouldn't, it's just a simplification. no faffing around with 3 different hdmi ports, no using up a usb port.
Adding a network adapter into later ps2 models didn't require them to ship it with a router.

They've already nearly halved the motherboard of ps4 so I think they could slot this tech in nicely for the fraction of the cost of a dedicated box.
 

plainr_

Member
The increase in size doesn't make sense for what is essentially a glorified hdmi splitter. Has to do more or be able to do other tasks now.

I'm just gonna take a guess and say the external box is now capable enough to render a 3d environment for non-VR games like a theater room.

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It's obvious that the PS4 can't do this by itself.
 
I am so amazed by people/media sites treating this breakout box as if it's new info. The breakout box has been there since day one, now all of sudden how much is this going to cost.

What has changed since day one with the breakout box
1. 3D audio
2. Social Screen- the TV can display a different image than what is seen in VR.
3. 90Hz
This has been known for a while, making old news into to new news.

old thread PSVR comes with a powerful processing unit.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1133195&highlight=powerful+processing+unit
 

DemonNite

Member
A fair bit smaller then, but significantly larger than the box we saw on the first-gen Morpheus prototype.

doesnt look like that to me... and i have the old box sitting on top of the new one
 
i find it funny that i used to wonder if they could sell a Cell processor addon to the PS4 and folks were like NO THATS NOT FEASIBLE and now we literally have a processor in a box as a solution for VR on the PS4.

Go figure
 

Caayn

Member
- External PSU is strange considering how Playstation consoles have been equiped with internal PSUs for a long time now. (Although this isn't a problem, just a bit strange.)

- USB connection with the console, on a console that only has USB connectors on the front of the console. Wtf.

Would be a bit surprised if this is the design that'll hit the store shelves next year.

i find it funny that i used to wonder if they could sell a Cell processor addon to the PS4 and folks were like NO THATS NOT FEASIBLE and now we literally have a processor in a box as a solution for VR on the PS4.

Go figure
Communication latency and bandwith limitations for an external Cell add-on would kill its feasibility. This box is a bit different from "Just plugging in extra power".
 
I honestly think they've botched this. When has a Sony peripheral ever sold well. They tried so hard with Playstation Move and it totally bombed. I'll give them the fact that VR is the new hotness and its backed by other companies making similar moves, but this add on processor seems half baked.

What they really should have done is delay VR a year and bring it out with the Playstation 5 in 2017 or just to heck with it and bring out a new console and call it Playstation VR. I don't think the Playstation VR games are going to even look half as good as the Morpheus games running off a GTX970, so its probably going to be like PS3.5 quality stuff.

In what reality? As of November 2012 Move had shipped 15 million units. While it wasn't as big success as Kinect it really didn't ''totally'' bomb. Also during PS2 era EyeToy sold very well.
 

Tobor

Member
i find it funny that i used to wonder if they could sell a Cell processor addon to the PS4 and folks were like NO THATS NOT FEASIBLE and now we literally have a processor in a box as a solution for VR on the PS4.

Go figure

It's not feasible from a business perspective.

VR is a product people will actually buy. No one outside of a few diehard fans would buy a cell add on.
 
It's not feasible from a business perspective.

VR is a product people will actually buy. No one outside of a few diehard fans would buy a cell add on.

well yeah, that ship has sailed. But i would've totally bought some sort of addon that let me play my PS3 stuff.

As it stands, the PS4 is the worst machine regarding backwards compatibility of the big three. Even the lowly Vita has had better support. shameful.

but i digress, i really look forward to pick up the PSVR. I'm hoping that the PC crowd quickly figures out how to make it work on the PC so i dont have to buy two headsets for VR.
 

Artex

Banned
When's this shit coming out? I think now due to the cost of this versus other vr I'm going to start with this as my first foray into VR (don't have a capable PC).
 
i find it funny that i used to wonder if they could sell a Cell processor addon to the PS4 and folks were like NO THATS NOT FEASIBLE and now we literally have a processor in a box as a solution for VR on the PS4.

Go figure

Save this post for when they make a cell addon.

A ps3 guts minus hdd+bd is feasible, but you could more easily connect that to the cloud rather than a ps4 host (which has no hdmi in)
 

Genio88

Member
I bet this PS VR will cost at least 399$, looks like this box has a good hardware into it, or no way PS4 could be able to achieve 90fps 3d games with that quality, you also have to add the price of move controllers which I think will be sold separately, and isn't the Ps eye camera needed too
 

benny_a

extra source of jiggaflops
When's this shit coming out? I think now due to the cost of this versus other vr I'm going to start with this as my first foray into VR (don't have a capable PC).
Summer 2016 is the last info. No specific release date announced.

I bet this PS VR will cost at least 399$, looks like this box has a good hardware into it, or no way PS4 could be able to achieve 90fps 3d games with that quality
Unfortunately for you the box does nothing but 3D audio and hdmi splitting.
Not that they ever claimed it did something different.
 

paulogy

Member
While a price like $349 would be completely reasonable for a brand new piece of hardware like this, I think $299 is the sweet spot (in part because the on-sale PS4s are selling for this too).

They could sweeten the deal by bundling in the PS4 camera or Move controllers or games, but I think $299 for headset-only is what we'll be looking at for launch.
 

specialK

Banned
My price prediction:

$399.99 - Introduction price
$3499.99 - 2016 holidays
$299.99 - 2017 holidays
$249.99 - When PS5 comes out (It's gonna be compatible btw)
 

blastprocessor

The Amiga Brotherhood
Thing is l also own a PC and l doubt l can stomach paying say £400 for this even if that box will help render a better VR experience. Neither will l pay that for OR unless they've reduced the screen door significantly and me feeling sick after a short play.

This is a punt for Sony IMHO and l doubt they will sell it at a loss so it won't be cheap.
 
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