Pennywise83
Banned
To be honest, I didn't expect this success for SMM; 500k sure, but heading towards 700k and significantly better than SM3DW...
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Media Create Sales: Week 51, 2015 (Dec 14 - Dec 20)
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tri-Ace x Konami was a mistake.
Well it is a 2D Mario even if its a builder, and the former has always been more popular than 3D Mario.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
what if it has a frozen world?
Didn't seem to do much for Disney Magical Castle 2 though?
Great sales for Wii U, Splatoon, Mario Maker & Fallout 4!
No you're the one suggesting Frozen will save KH3 or something. And then you have the nerve to call my arguments weak, lol.
Honestly I thought you were joking, that's why I was being facetious with the Asian sales comparison. But it seems like you're dead serious on this, yikes.
Out of curiosity how well do you expect KH3 to sell ballpark? It's early but just based on everything we know now?
Too bad about Exist. I enjoy the game from what I've played of it and it's nice to play a high quality original Tri-ace game for the first time in what....5 years?
But yeah, they're doomed to be a licensed helper studio if they want to survive in today's market. They just don't know how to make games with wide appeal and they have weird decisions like the sort chibi Mii style character models in Exist. Also lack of money to market things heavily outside of Star Ocean which SE markets for them.
But yeah, they're doomed to be a licensed helper studio if they want to survive in today's market. They just don't know how to make games with wide appeal and they have weird decisions like the sort chibi Mii style character models in Exist. Also lack of money to market things heavily outside of Star Ocean which SE markets for them.
Jon Carter
Member
It sucks that the Splatoon bundle is no more. Isn't that a major reason why the Wii U has sold as well as it did over the past few weeks? Time for a Minecraft bundle.
Great numbers for Nintendo-related stuff. It's awesome that the 3DS will indeed hit 20 million this year. Next stop (last stop) PS2.
Great numbers for Nintendo-related stuff. It's awesome that the 3DS will indeed hit 20 million this year. Next stop (last stop) PS2.
I think their best bet is to hope Star Ocean 5 is successful and then try to parlay that into more agreements with Square Enix.
They could also consider becoming a licensed game partner for Namco as you said, which usually at least has a reasonable line-up of work.
Another week and, again (though even more strongly now), I question SEs wisdom in putting DQB where they put it (aside from Vita) or better stated where they didn't put it. Timing wise DQB couldn't come out at a better time for the WiiU and SE on the heels of SMM growth over the holidays.
Oh well, you sleep in the bed you make.
Oh well, you sleep in the bed you make.
sörine;190265018 said:
you got all that from me asking what if it has a frozen world? using a faceplate is a weak argument no matter how you want to slice it and i am surprised it struck a nerve!
i am not saying kh3 is going to light the charts on fire if it has a frozen world lol. it is not possible to give a number when there is no way of knowing if people buy kh3 because of it. i think it will be a good marketing move to make use of its popularity and push people over the edge to pick up the game. if it makes you happy i will make an early prediction that kh3 will sell more than a million units lifetime in japan(edit: should include asia just to be on the safe side
but i can see it doing that in japan alone depending on reception)A popular media property doesn't necessarily translate to people caring about said property in game-form for Japan. See the recent example of Star Wars, or any popular Anime with a tie-in game.
A Frozen World doesn't have much of a basepoint of comparison for saying it will do anything, regardless of how it is marketed. Frozen's inclusion didn't suddenly change the story of Disney Magic Castle (and thats a game that more appropriately targets the Frozen demographic than KH ever will).
The new Square Enix game from the ex-Dragon Quest producer is Fortune Tellers Academy, which as far as I can tell, is a new Otome monster catching x visual-novel-esque game for mobile: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1161441
That's a mistake from Nintendo.
i think the lesson here is that 2d mario is way more popular in basically any form than 3d mario.
Nahh. They should just focus their best on their mobile game there.^_^
Ahahaha they're so bad at that market it's honestly mind boggling.
And when you can't work there, you *really* need to get on the good side of a publisher in Japan.
What concerns?
So we've established that Smash did nothing for Wii U sales last year. I'm wondering, is it more like New Super Mario Bros. than we thought? In the sense that it sells very well to an existing install base, but it's not very good at selling consoles by itself, at least late in a console cycle.
I think it's a combination of that and the fact that the 3ds version sucked the sales out of it.
Smash is a known quantity. You don't need to pick up a WiiU when Smash launches, you can pick it up whenever before or after, if that's what you're specifically after (also 3DS version).
Vita and WiiU would be an interesting combination.
Can they make VP3 before that please.
agreed. my thought process to why it could help kh3 sales is because the gameplay and setting for the game lends itself to japanese tastes when compared to something like star wars which is multiplayer only shooter. i don't know much about disney magic castle and the quality of the game to judge the effect of frozen. maybe it has sold more than expected going by comments about how it has good legs due to the addition of frozen
James Scott
Banned
In both situations (and in general, I'd imagine)
I know both versions of Smash launched very close to each other, but shouldn't the same apply to Mario Kart? Mario Kart 8 did give a noticeable bump to the Wii U. Not to the same extent Splatoon did, but it definitely existed.
I think minecraft being as late as it is doing that well on wiiu shows that they really misread the market. E specially when there was already a DQ game on the wiiu.
But its their loss. The wiiu owners already have the real thing. They just lost the chance to steal its thunder.
Minecraft does well on everything.
Mario kart 7 came out a while ago and isn't nearly the same game as Mario Kart 8
Mario Kart 8 was released a few years after 7. Also they weren't marketed as the same game. I still believe that Mario Kart 7 did end up stealing some sales from 8 though, and the sales bump wasn't as big as it could've been.
Minecraft hasn't sold badly on any platform it has ever launched on, and with SMM getting people in to building from a less explored angle the two titles will work off of each other quite well.
Its SEs loss.
agreed. my thought process to why it could help kh3 sales is because the gameplay and setting for the game lends itself to japanese tastes when compared to something like star wars which is multiplayer only shooter. i don't know much about disney magic castle and the quality of the game to judge the effect of frozen. maybe it has sold more than expected going by comments about how it has good legs due to the addition of frozen
Nothing profound. The point was that Frozen didn't propel it to some great unknown new heights, and the product better targets the Frozen fanbase in general than KH3 will.
Splatoon didn't have a big budget. It had a big marketing budget.
Also, yes, that's what their Garage program is (for up and coming talent)...
To be fair Splatoon hit all the right notes. That won't happen every time.
RIP Codename Steam
Kresnik258
Member
Japan or worldwide? Because it really didn't take off in Japan when it was 360 only.
FreedomFighter
Member
Smash 3DS has a lot to do with that.
We'll have a similar situation with DQVI albeit not to the same magnitude.
I think you may be overshooting. I say 300k-350k.
Lord_Byron28
Member
Exactly. Most of the people who worked on Nintendoland were the ones who developed Splatoon. Nintendoland was supposed to be their next big new IP that sells the system but it didn't quite work out that way. Sometimes it works out and sometimes it doesnt.
I'm basing it on DQH. The PS4 version did about 260K in its first week before a price drop and was cross gen. KH3 has been anticipated for a LONG time and will be PS4 exclusive and come out after at least the last price cut for PS4 if not another by the time the game comes out in Japan/
People really think great, new and innovative ideals are common?
Did you see the development of Splatoon and where they started?
CaviarMeths
Member
I imagine that they would make less money in that case. Bundle sold out anyway.
I think the bigger issue would also be staff count.
Next generation their average team size could very well double, and they presumably want to make games in their hit brands still.