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PS Plus line up for January 2016

autoduelist

Member
Then how did they manage to get AAA-class games on PS3 when they had to get 4? Adding 2 games shouldnt of made PS+ go from awesome selection to utter shit almost every month.

Well, for one, perhaps they were going 'over budget' in order to draw people in during the early days of ps+ --- that is, it may have been unsustainable. It's all a matter of perspective. Or perhaps large publishers were willing to give a new concept a chance, but realized they didn't see enough income to make it worth it, whereas it's a perfect fit for smaller companies that might otherwise get ignored. Or maybe since the PS4 is still relatively new, and people are buying it in droves, even launch AAA titles still sell relatively well?

Ultimately it's $4 a month. I can understand not liking the selection -- certainly, there are months that aren't as good as others... but it's $4 a month, the price of a fancy coffee. Expecting retail games still selling for $40 PS4 games every month seems like crazy talk to me. How could the economics of that ever work out?

It doesn't take much to make PS+ a good deal. All you need is one game every 3 months that you'd have bought at $12 to pretty much break even [say, Rocket League, or whatever] and the other 17 games (of 18 in 3 months) are gravy.
 
Well, Grim Fandango should certainly be good to play on the Vita.

That game has always looked really interesting to me.
Other than that, it's certainly a very poor month personally, but I'm not too fussed seeing as my backlog is staggering.

Well, for one, perhaps they were going 'over budget' in order to draw people in during the early days of ps+ --- that is, it may have been unsustainable. It's all a matter of perspective. Or perhaps large publishers were willing to give a new concept a chance, but realized they didn't see enough income to make it worth it, whereas it's a perfect fit for smaller companies that might otherwise get ignored. Or maybe since the PS4 is still relatively new, and people are buying it in droves, even launch AAA titles still sell relatively well?

Ultimately it's $4 a month. I can understand not liking the selection -- certainly, there are months that aren't as good as others... but it's $4 a month, the price of a fancy coffee. Expecting retail games still selling for $40 PS4 games every month seems like crazy talk to me. How could the economics of that ever work out?

It doesn't take much to make PS+ a good deal. All you need is one game every 3 months that you'd have bought at $12 to pretty much break even [say, Rocket League, or whatever] and the other 17 games (of 18 in 3 months) are gravy.

This is a great post and how I look PS+ too.
 
Sony also gave away more first party titles in the earlier days of PS+. So unless they want to give up Bloodborne and (the actual full game version) of Infamous:Second Son, they're probably actually going to be coughing up Knack and Killzone soon enough (That KZ game should stay in the grave though, imo)
Beyond that and..The Order, there aren't many high budget, low cost titles they could give us without reaching into the pot full of PS2 gold.

PS4 versions of PS2 games hitting PS+ first every once in a while would actually be a fantastic compromise for a lot of people, provided they don't get up in arms about graphical quality. Even then, some of the more stylized games still look fantastic.


Everybody's Gone to the Rapture and Journey incoming
 

HotHamBoy

Member
Sometimes I forget that some people only have one Sony console, where as I have all three. So usually there's at least one great game, sometimes as many as 5, and therefore Plus doesn't piss me off like it does others. This is a pretty weak month, to be sure, but I've heard great things about Nihilumbra and my patience and discipline finally paid off for Grim Fandango, which I've never played but always wanted to and am glad I haven't purchased yet.

The rest though.... yeesh. Dragon Age Origins? Really? It's ancient, you can get that game for $4. And it sucks (sorry, it sucks). Not to mention the PS3 versions is horrendous.

But you know, there's always next months, guys. There's always enough awesome games throughout the year to justify Plus, even if there aren't awesome games every single month. And the discounts help make up for it too. I just saved a ton of money during the Holiday sale with the extra discount from Plus on games I wanted to buy anyway.

Not every month can be a knock out, nor appeal specifically to your tastes. One man's trash is another man's treasure, as they say.
 
Sony also gave away more first party titles in the earlier days of PS+. So unless they want to give up Bloodborne and (the actual full game version) of Infamous:Second Son, they're probably actually going to be coughing up Knack and Killzone soon enough (That KZ game should stay in the grave though, imo)
Beyond that and..The Order, there aren't many high budget, low cost titles they could give us without reaching into the pot full of PS2 gold.

PS4 versions of PS2 games hitting PS+ first every once in a while would actually be a fantastic compromise for a lot of people, provided they don't get up in arms about graphical quality. Even then, some of the more stylized games still look fantastic.


Everybody's Gone to the Rapture and Journey incoming

They're giving away a first party title this month...
 
They're giving away a first party title this month...

Yes, sorry I should have clarified; AAA or "EVERYONE WANTS THEM" first party games. Personally I love discovering indie games I wouldn't have purchased otherwise on PS+ but I get where people are coming from, and I'm admittedly not at all interested in the first party title for this month.
 

kinoki

Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
The rest though.... yeesh. Dragon Age Origins? Really? It's ancient, you can get that game for $4. And it sucks (sorry, it sucks). Not to mention the PS3 versions is horrendous.

I've played Dragon Age to completion (platinum) on PS3 and it's serviceable. At the time I played it, it was the best version. It's more stable than the 360 version and at the 1.02 patch the game was leaking RAM like crazy on PC forcing me to reboot the game every 30 minutes. The PC version is fixed now and is the superior version for sure but don't diss on the PS3 version, it's quite good given Bioware's standards.
 

NewDust

Member
For me it's a god month.

Have had Nihilumbra in my cart on various occasions but always backed out, so to get it now is great. Interested in Hardware Rivals. Already bought Grim Fandango, but haven't had the time to get around to it. As a trophy collector I can appreciate something like Legends of War: Patton and even Medal of Honor: Warfighter.

Only thing I'm asking, I just bought Dragon Age: Inquisition. I haven't played anything DA related and am actually not that into rpg's (bought it more for the time-value, because of my budget next year.) Should I play DA:O first? How important are Awakenings and DA2? Or should I dive head first into Inquisition and go back to the previous games when I liked it?
 

xrnzaaas

Member
Only thing I'm asking, I just bought Dragon Age: Inquisition. I haven't played anything DA related and am actually not that into rpg's (bought it more for the time-value, because of my budget next year.) Should I play DA:O first? How important are Awakenings and DA2? Or should I dive head first into Inquisition and go back to the previous games when I liked it?

Well it's Bioware so knowing the characters, the lore and what happened in the previous games certainly helps. Also I don't know if buying Inquisition was a good idea if you're not a big fan or the RPG's, unless of course you'll be playing on the lowest difficulty setting and without relying on the tactical combat.
 

HotHamBoy

Member
I've played Dragon Age to completion (platinum) on PS3 and it's serviceable. At the time I played it, it was the best version. It's more stable than the 360 version and at the 1.02 patch the game was leaking RAM like crazy on PC forcing me to reboot the game every 30 minutes. The PC version is fixed now and is the superior version for sure but don't diss on the PS3 version, it's quite good given Bioware's standards.

I just can't agree with this. The game is terribly dated and clunky. I'm sure just about any modern PC can run it and if you want to play the game I think that's the way to go. I recently attempted to play the game again last year and I just couldn't get past how awful it looked and felt to play.

But I guess I just don't really like the Dragon Age games
 

I don't follow your logic. Why does the PS4 library have to be bigger before Knack gets put on PS+? You keep saying we won't get big games there until the library is bigger, why is that the deciding factor?

I'm not saying a triple-a game every month. I just see some first party launch titles that go for next to nothing--why not put them up on PS+ to boost morale about the service in general? I'm sure there are reasons, but I don't follow yours.

Edit: Also getting the psp version of a game when a Vita version exists is just plain silly. Vita needs love on PS+ bad, and I think it has a lot of unexplored first party options.
 
There's AAA on the PS3.
Part of the problem is that the subscription cover PS3, PS4 and Vita.

Once they drop PS3 support, let's say 2019, you should see some AAA PS4 games.

Heh, that is probably true, then the PS5 will be out or close to release anyway lol.

Sony probably figures that since people have to buy PS Plus anyway if they want to have access to online play,etc, they might not have to go all out with the free games because it is essentially a bonus where with the PS3, the free games were basically the reason to purchase PS Plus. I always try out the free games because you never know.
 
Only thing I'm asking, I just bought Dragon Age: Inquisition. I haven't played anything DA related and am actually not that into rpg's (bought it more for the time-value, because of my budget next year.) Should I play DA:O first? How important are Awakenings and DA2? Or should I dive head first into Inquisition and go back to the previous games when I liked it?

It has tidbits of the lore. If you want to enjoy the story fully, you'd have to play tge previous titles first.

That said, I fear you'll get burnt out even before starting Inquisition.
 

redcrayon

Member
Well, for one, perhaps they were going 'over budget' in order to draw people in during the early days of ps+ --- that is, it may have been unsustainable. It's all a matter of perspective. Or perhaps large publishers were willing to give a new concept a chance, but realized they didn't see enough income to make it worth it, whereas it's a perfect fit for smaller companies that might otherwise get ignored. Or maybe since the PS4 is still relatively new, and people are buying it in droves, even launch AAA titles still sell relatively well?

Ultimately it's $4 a month. I can understand not liking the selection -- certainly, there are months that aren't as good as others... but it's $4 a month, the price of a fancy coffee. Expecting retail games still selling for $40 PS4 games every month seems like crazy talk to me. How could the economics of that ever work out?

It doesn't take much to make PS+ a good deal. All you need is one game every 3 months that you'd have bought at $12 to pretty much break even [say, Rocket League, or whatever] and the other 17 games (of 18 in 3 months) are gravy.

This is pretty much how I look at it. With the discounts on sale items it works out pretty well for me, I usually save about £20 a year there so paying £40 for 24-30 PS+ games on Vita (cross buy games are fairly common) seems alright to me.

I don't expect PS+ to give me the bigger games I want, I use it as a variety of stuff I wouldn't normally buy to fill the gaps between my main purchases and get me to try out things outside of my comfort zone, and it does that quite well.

Sometimes I forget that some people only have one Sony console, where as I have all three. So usually there's at least one great game, sometimes as many as 5, and therefore Plus doesn't piss me off like it does others. This is a pretty weak month, to be sure, but I've heard great things about Nihilumbra and my patience and discipline finally paid off for Grim Fandango, which I've never played but always wanted to and am glad I haven't purchased yet.
I've only got a Vita, never play online and find PS+ a good deal for me. I think it's people's expectations for their £3.25 paid per month rather than number of consoles that defines how happy they are with it, and possibly also how many digital games they buy as the savings clock up. Some months I've had discounts worth more than the monthly fee.

Even though I think it's still a good deal for the money between online play, discounts and games no matter what systems you use, it used to be an even more excellent deal for some if a) they prefer AAA games as b) those games used to make up a larger portion of what was available on PS3. Just look at how popular the sentiment of 'I didn't buy a PS4 to play indies' is.
 

NewDust

Member
It has tidbits of the lore. If you want to enjoy the story fully, you'd have to play tge previous titles first.

That said, I fear you'll get burnt out even before starting Inquisition.

Well it's Bioware so knowing the characters, the lore and what happened in the previous games certainly helps. Also I don't know if buying Inquisition was a good idea if you're not a big fan or the RPG's, unless of course you'll be playing on the lowest difficulty setting and without relying on the tactical combat.

Okay, I'll start with Origins, then probably watch the DLC's, then decide wether to buy DA2 or also watch it on yt and finally get to Inquisition.

Don't think I get burnt out on it. Haven't really tried rpg's for years (except P4G, but that on is so different). In the past I suffered from severe gamer add, never making it past the first 2 hours or so in a game, but now that's nit rwally a problem anymore... Also got loads if time on my hands.
 

zero86r

Member
Renewed my sub for freedom wars this month glad I only paid for a month, though I'll play Grim fandango when I get a ps4.
 
This is pretty disappointing, I can't lie about that. But it's still going to be ok. My rule is that there needs to be at least one, preferably two games that interest me. Grim Fandango and actually finishing DA:O both interest me.
 

kinoki

Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
I just can't agree with this. The game is terribly dated and clunky. I'm sure just about any modern PC can run it and if you want to play the game I think that's the way to go. I recently attempted to play the game again last year and I just couldn't get past how awful it looked and felt to play.

But I guess I just don't really like the Dragon Age games

Yes, they fixed the RAM-leaking bug eventually on the PC-version but there is nothing wrong with the PS3 version if you just want to experience the story.
 

balohna

Member
Pretty sure the PS3 version of DAO is terrible. Better than not playing it I suppose (one of my favourite RPGs ever), but I'd say anyone with a half decent PC should cough up the $10 or whatever and play it on that.
 

kraspkibble

Permabanned.
another month and more terrible games.

sony need to add a new cheaper tier to PS+ where you get everything except access to games.
 

Sesto

Banned
I can see them changing their PS+ policy, due the low interest in the free PS+ games. They probably will end Vita/PS3 games and stick with free indies for the PS4.

Long ago were the day where they gave you awesome games like Kingdoms of Amalur, Batman, AC, Demon's Soul
 

Malcolm9

Member
I can see them changing their PS+ policy, due the low interest in the free PS+ games. They probably will end Vita/PS3 games and stick with free indies for the PS4.

Long ago were the day where they gave you awesome games like Kingdoms of Amalur, Batman, AC, Demon's Soul

I think Sony should go down this route, the PS3 has had its day and we all know how much support the Vita gets.
 

LesPaul

Member
Looks like an ok month for me. I have never played Grim Fandango or Dragon Age: Origins. Although I did not enjoy Inquisition as much as i was hoping.
 
Grim Fandango is fine, my rule is as long as there's one game I have a chance of playing then the subscription fee is reasonable. More than one, and I've made my money back.
 

Duxxy3

Member
More games to add to the list of games I'll never play. I would rather that there was a cheaper PS+ just for online play. The free games have been crap, for me, since the PS4 launched.
 
Pretty much. This bitching about the games every month had gotten so stale.

It really sounds like people don't want good games, they just want expensive games for free. Right now it's Call of Duty, Destiny and Battlefront that's bringing in the subscriptions.

I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually give away Bloodborne, but the good time for that would be when From takes a break from Dark Souls.
 
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