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The Witcher 3: Enhanced Edition coming 5th Feb. according to French retailer
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7DollarHagane
Banned
I'm playing on the hardest difficulty and the combat seems fine. Very challenging and punishes laziness. Requires good use of signs, oils/potions, and bombs. You have to be patient and dodge/parry.
I guess people wanted assassins Creed or batman combat?
I guess people wanted assassins Creed or batman combat?
GlamFM
Banned
DLC for 1 & 2 was free.
CrispyBoar
Banned
Just one of the reasons why I don't buy games Day One anymore, because they'll most likely come out with another version in which they'll have all of the DLC, & the bugs & fixes included.
They wanted Souls/Borne combat.
I played on Death March too and was thoroughly satisfied with the combat as well.
jim2point0
Banned
It's not really confirmed yet.
I'm playing through it a 2nd time right now, but this "announcement' doesnt make me want to stop and wait. Maybe when it's official....
7DollarHagane
Banned
Biggest change I would want is an overhaul of the skill tree. As it is I don't feel any reason to put points into alchemy or telekinetic or aoe signs.
It seems like some of the skill options should be buffed or balanced better, or replaced.
It seems like some of the skill options should be buffed or balanced better, or replaced.
7DollarHagane
Banned
I guess but the game is more about dodging and using recovery frames to do damage.
I agree. It's not my favorite combat system, but I've never quite understood the extent of all the complaints. I think the thing is that the combat is more about you reacting to what the enemies do rather than taking the initiative. It requires patience. It does fall apart a bit if you have more than four enemies, though, so I get the complaints. I resolved this with some of the more overpowered skills late game, like the one where you can just keep spinning.
I think they did poorly explain the dodge mechanic vs the roll mechanic. The short-hop dodge that Geralt loses iframes if he does it twice in a row, if he uses it after a combo, or if he uses a sign. also, enemies will have a near invincible strike that pierces a combo if you keep wailing on it.
This. It's the weakest part of the game, for sure.
SeeNoWeevil
Member
I've not been playing long. Hmm, do I wait for this and play something else in the mean time.
EvilKatarn
Member
My main problem with it is that some high level enemies are just incredibly boring to fight. Not challenging, just dull.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akOuDAfzDnc - this is on Normal.
Otherwise it's alright for an RPG of this size. Hell, fighting a level 28 griffin at level 18 was fucking wild.
UpDownLeftRight
Banned
If this turns out legit I hope it's an actual enhanced edition like they usually do and not just a GOTY edition. If anything this would be the best game to do one of those for anyway since it already has lot of recognition. May as well boost it even further with the good will of a free, large update along with some bonus content like they have before. Fingers crossed.
Alchemy tree is probably the most overpowered tree in the game. It's so broken you can make a build that makes your heavy swing drain your stamina completely, it add a % of the target max HP to your damage and it heals you for like 15-20% of your max HP with every swing. The build relies on two decoction, it's insanely strong I tested it but I quickly stopped using it, it makes the whole game trivial except on encounter that can kill you in a single blow.
Aoe signs are highly situational. Axii (if that's what you mean by telekinetic) is also very useful, especially if you use runes for it.
The enhanced edition could be patch 1.12. They are about 3 months earlier than Witcher 1 and 2 before their enhanced edition.
jim2point0
Banned
Only using quen + swords.... no wonder it's boring. The game gives you a lot more tools to use. More interesting signs and bombs.
That said, higher level enemies like that are definitely damage sponges. That's probably the most boring aspect about fighting them. It just takes a long time. Which is why you should just come back to them when you're a higher level.
iz.podpolja
Neo Member
1.12 was supposed to be a simple hotfix. If the news is true it will rather contain some groundwork for the expansion and released as such (compare to 1.10 befor HoS) to capitalise on the GoTY situation.
RespectThySole
Member
Boring because you don't utilize your toolset. Quen+swords is the least efficient approach to combat. I couldn't imagine playing the game like that for 100+ hours.
EvilKatarn
Member
Yeah yeah I'm playing it wrong.
It's pretty much how I've played the series up to this point and I've not had this problem. If the game gives me no reason to use its varied toolset then it's the game's fault. I'll use bombs and crossbows against monsters when I feel like it's appropriate but signs like Yrden, Axii and Aard I'll only use when they're required in the story. I have also not upgraded Igni just because why would I waste stamina casting that when I could use it for Quen instead?
This is also one of the reasons I liked Witcher 2's combat better. I feel like it actually forced me to use my toolset. Oils, potions, signs and traps were all pretty much necessary (even on Normal) while here I could technically even beat up anything I want with the wrong sword.
I can see all that stuff mattering more on Death March but it doesn't change much. Witcher 1 and 2 were better about making you prepare for fights like a real witcher would. Maybe this would not have happened if they hadn't gone with this massive open-world.
Also I'm not shitting on the game if that's what it looks like. It's my #2 GotY.
Abilidebob
Member
Maybe it's also DX12 for PC and X1?
Turin Turambar
Member
You aren't supposed to fight high level enemies like these. The red skull is shown to know that's an area you should visit later when you are more leveled up.
This isn't Oblivion where you can go anywhere and do whatever you want.
Solid Samus
Banned
You'd almost think that time is literally the only variable at play here.
Hey it'd totally be crazy if CDPR were a much larger and more capable development house now than they were back then lol
RespectThySole
Member
You could play the game in whatever way you please. It's certainly possible to brute force your way the entire game using solely that method, but there are more effective approaches to combat. I just don't see the point of using a method you aren't having fun with and then blaming the game for your self-imposed issue.
It would be the equivalent of me using the same combo over and over in a character action game and saying "Well it works. Why use anything else when I can beat the game just using this?" (meanwhile there are much quicker ways of dispatching your opponent) I don't think TW2 was very effective in forcing the player to utilize their toolset. TW1 was much better in that respect.
NJDEN
Member
I started playing Witcher 3 last night and I'm not very far into it. Should I hold off and wait for this or am I missing out by playing the vanilla version with updates?
If this is the same type of scam as Dark Soul's SOTFS then the improvements from the enhanced edition should be patched into the original game. I don't care about an all inclusive DLC + Base game bundle... that's what season passes are for. It irks me when companies re-release games with updates and charge for them when they should just be patched into vanilla.
If this is the same type of scam as Dark Soul's SOTFS then the improvements from the enhanced edition should be patched into the original game. I don't care about an all inclusive DLC + Base game bundle... that's what season passes are for. It irks me when companies re-release games with updates and charge for them when they should just be patched into vanilla.
Darkstorne
Member
I'd agree with this. I did invest in AOE Aard and loved that decision (great against packs of wolves) but since I love melee combat all my other points were invested in unlocking the advanced Light and Heavy attack moves to make combat more varied for swordplay. I feel like the game would be a lot more fun if these advanced sword moves and the alternate sign abilities were unlocked much faster, and skill points could be invested into strengthening your favourites. As it stands, I kind of had to guess which alternate sign would be best, and I haven't had a chance to try investing in the others yet. It feels like a gamble, which isn't great.
I would also love a much better inventory system. Because the current design is a chore to use, and the original inventory looked sexy as hell (still looks cumbersome though):
Hell yes! Fighting high level large monsters felt challenging in a satisfying way. The length of time to kill them was fitting. You're definitely making the game a chore for yourself if you're fighting regular enemies 6+ levels above your own though, and only using Quen to deal with them. If you're going to insist on doing that then you at least need to invest in Axii and lob some Northern Wind bombs around.
The Enhanced Edition will be a free update for existing owners. The game in its current state still won far more GOTY awards than all its competitors combined. You should probably keep playing =)
Mad Season
Banned
generally this should be free for current pc owners
At least some companies give you the upgrade to the Enhanced Edition for free, like CD Projekt Red or Techland.
But I agree that having the game + updates + DLCs on a single disk is very convenient and a good collector item.
How about that?
Yeah this thread was confusing me because CDPR said months ago there wouldnt be any Enhanced Edition and also the fact that the expansion isnt due for another 4-6 months or so.
RespectThySole
Member
How about that?
Welp.
How about that?
Boom
Pinko Marx
Banned
That's funny, I'm the exact opposite. I have NO points in swordsmanship at all. All alchemy and signs baybee.
Been playing it at 60 fps since day one.
RespectThySole
Member
You can buy potions of clearance in Novigrad to respec and as for alt signs my personal favorites are Alt Yrden and Firestream. Many also like Alt Axii.
PLASTICA-MAN
Member
Do we expect enhanced graphics like with the Enhanced version of the first game?
AHA-Lambda
Member
RespectThySole
Member
So if there is no enhanced edition, then what did CDPR mean here:
http://neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1153625&page=1
http://neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1153625&page=1
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
How about that?
Bummer. The dream is dead.
Actually you can, and you can do it well, provided you do it properly using oils, potions and decotions.
Alpha Phoenix
Member
How could they release an EE before Blood and Wine? I wasn't expecting to see this before at least August.
Linkstrikesback
Member
There will absolutely be a GOTY edition of W3 this year. They probably mean that we shouldn't expect any serious changes that aren't included with the DLC expansions. No doubt there will be some more improvements to the gameplay, and maybe even a bit of content for free when blood and wine launches, but beyond that? Hard to say.
UnluckyKate
Member
there will be a big Enhanced and complete edition down the line. Just not before the second extensions and its obligatory patch are out
EvilKatarn
Member
Yeah, there'll likely still be an Enhanced Edition. Just later, instead of sooner.
CollectedDust
Member
Wouldn't hurt to update the thread title, considering this has already been fully debunked.