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Witcher 3 has won over 240 GOTY Awards so far.
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You don't have to if you don't want to.
It'll derail the thread further.
Sorry, it's a lie? It's not http://gotypicks.blogspot.cl/2008/12/2008-game-of-year_14.html
I know.
what gameplay portion was innovative?
when I think about innovation I think about Portal1/2( and you don't even fight in these games iirc) from last gen or Splatoon this gen.
nothing strikes as innovative in the witcher 3. Witcher 3 is a far bigger, much better and way more ambitious Witcher 2 with many improvements( kinda like the difference between Demon souls and Demon souls 2 aka Dark souls 1).
I love the game so much and it's one of the only 3 games/game series that I bought their DLCs day zero, but it's not a game that I would associate it with innovation.
Crossing Eden
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By maybe actually clicking the source in the OP. There were less GOTY awards handed out this year than last year.
Magic Mushroom
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By that reasoning Shadow of Mordor is a better game than Bayonetta 2. In the end it comes down to opinions. I think Bloodborne is easily the best game of the gen which is why I agree with the Edges of Eurogamers of this world, even though they are in a minority. But these are my prefered gaming media anyway.
texhnolyze
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No, I'm helping you. They won't stop.
Are you saying that it's the reasoning that TLoU is a better game than Bishock Infinite as well in 2013?
In the end it comes down to cherry picking.
RespectThySole
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How many times has the best selling game actually won GOTY? Skyrim is probably the only time that happened.
I'd say it isn't so much in the individual pieces, but rather the execution as a whole. They have designed a structure that works as a narrative open world that could easily be a good blueprint for others to develop upon. Their world construction techniques all the way from the map geometry to settlement layout is fairly unique.
In regard to Portal, I don't actually think the concepts used in the first game were new. It just used them better than any other game before it. Ultimately innovation is just as vaguely defined as gameplay.
Does it matter?
I'm talking about sales number overall and as a brand, not about sales for GOTY awards.
RespectThySole
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Which is why it's hilarious that some are trying to make it seem like beating a GTA is some insurmountable task and Fallout 4 is somehow less competition. MGS4 received only 1 less award than GTA4 and we have MGSV this year. The Souls series is no longer niche. The downplay is real.
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franbatista123
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Most credible because they conform with your opinion?
johnnydrama
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Been seeing that narrative in a lot of threads lately. Gotta love the salt.
Read an interview on GameSpot, dev claims it's better than the main game.
I hope Saskia and Iorveth are in.
Also I predict another game of thrones Easter egg. Daenerys Targaryen this time.
I think they've said neither is in.
Razzorn34
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Finally pushed through and finally finished this last night. Environment was top notch and the story was good. The combat was ass though, and was the biggest thing keeping me from finishing it. Overall, It's an above average game. I definitely do not echo this overwhelming praise it's getting though.
The next game starring Ciri would be cool. They really need to overhaul the combat though, or outsource it to someone else.
The next game starring Ciri would be cool. They really need to overhaul the combat though, or outsource it to someone else.
Lol at above average.
Razzorn34
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I won't be surprised at comments like this considering the thread. Sorry if everyone doesn't echo your opinion.
Chubby Rain
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True, but GTA IV has the higher Metacritic score thus inarguably making it the better game.
Shifty1897
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Souless Squirrel
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What made the combat terrible to you?
I found it to be fine nothing amazing sure but it wasn't bad the only thing mechanically bad about it is the parrying seems iffy. It does a good job at grounding the combat more towards reality while giving players the tools witcher's have available to them. The issue i see is that the tools a witcher uses don't really offer much to those who like the ability to choose w/e they play with like Dark souls. It isn't a flashy game like Dragon's Dogma or a character action game so it doesn't appeal to that crowd either. Being a long game doesn't help the combat much either as i see lots of players fall into the mindset of do whatever is easiest when facing an enemy they have faced before. Because of all these reason I see plenty of players not wanting explore the character tree seeing how alchemy can turn you in a tanky potion chugging guy who throws cluster bombs, how signs can change drastically in how they're used when upgraded, or how sword combat gets a little better when focusing on the combat tree.
tiredheadcrab
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The Witcher 3 is GOTY in my heart. Its my personal Game of the Year so we can add that one to the list as well. So far its my game of the generation but its still early. Yeah I love the story, the writing is wonderful, combat is fine, quests are nice and I like the decision making in some of them. The overall world is so gorgeous.
What can top it?
What can top it?
Eurogamer was stupid enough to give DA:I an 8. Their credibility is completely shot. We know how many GOTYs that piece of shit won.
These awards are irrelevant, this year just happens to be a tad more believable than others.
shinobi602
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DAI salt on GAF is always my favorite. Delicious.
Turin Turambar
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RespectThySole
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A look at Edge's top 100 games list shows how "credible" they are. They rank Skyrim as the best WRPG of all time. Arkham Knight at #59. GTA V #2. Those are just a few of the highlights.
Obliterator
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Holy damn its up to 210 now?!
You haven't gained the ability to critically evaluate a game. I like bad games too, for whatever sentimental reasons, but I at least know they're bad. Do you?
The gap in quality candidates from this GOTY merry-go-round compared to 2014 is wider than the grand canyon. I'd say "At least Bloodborne isn't complete shit", but I don't know for sure one way or another. Haven't played it. Most of the arguments against TW3 here in this thread, however, are laughable.
WrenchNinja
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Bioshock (yes that was a big deal that year despite the backlash it has received since) and GTA both came out that year As did the next Gen consoles. TLOU getting that attention is noteworthy. The underselling of the game is pretty silly.
They are also complete accurate, TW3 has terrible combat and a really bad skill system, The movement system well better is still pretty poor but it does some big things right like the quests and the writing is top notch but the gameplay really brings it down.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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You seem to lack basic understanding of what is and what isn't subjective.
Irrelevant to you and that last sentence is laughable. They are more believable because a game you like won a lot?
You don't think that's even a slight exaggeration? My counter has been that people don't know what "terrible" combat is. What's the worst combat you can think of? If TW3 is in the top five then you haven't played enough games. You're simply using descriptors which aren't accurate when laid bare.
I could believe "terrible" if they were talking about TW1 or Morrowind or Gothic or Risen or somewhat less awful RTwP systems, maybe clickers like Torchlight. None of those are particularly great. What's more is they haven't improved much over the years. That's not the case with TW3.
Coded Heroin
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I was always under the impression that Eurogamer and Edge were two of the toughest (and most trusted) video game news publications--at least tat was somewhat the attitude of the GameTrailers forum back when it was still active.
shinobi602
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Evaluating a game is completely subjective in my eyes. For example, many on this site chide The Witcher 3 for having terrible combat. To whose standards are we defining here? On what basis? Everyone has their own barometer as to what constitutes good or bad combat. To me it has fun combat. Sword strikes hit their targets, they can be fast or hard, dodging is fun, casting signs are fun, parrying, etc. I enjoy it. Who's right here? Both are. It's how they conceive what they're playing. Someone's more than within their right to dislike it.
I don't conform to the BS notion of liking or enjoying a bad game. If it has overwhelming 'bad qualities' while the majority of players think it's a bad game while I don't, it's not a bad game to me. In my eyes it's a good game. I've heard all the complaints about DAI for instance. While I agree with some, I disagree with many others. My overall experience was enjoyment of the different systems and game mechanics, story arcs, environments, characters, etc. I don't care what sort of 'critical thinking' is done to evaluate. It's subjective to each person's tastes.
sloppyjoe_gamer
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Did any of the recent patches address the 60-90 second load times after you die? That was some serious bullshit and why i stepped away from it.
IceDoesntHelp
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Uhm okay.
Dont see why i should care, but congrats i guess.
Dont see why i should care, but congrats i guess.
No. I don't care how many awards this game wins. It could win 500 for all I care, or alternatively put over a spit roast. But so can a game which shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath critically.
There's only so much which is subjective. Churning MMO quests is not subjectively good design. I talked nothing of the story, nothing of the characters. I don't even have to get to those. The core of the game was rotten.
Yea, this is not true at all. Edge has always been terrible, and most people admit that. Maybe toughest, but not credible/trusted
But yea, the shit Bloodborne fans say to justify their game not winning... It's just hilarious
WanderingWind
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Hey, I'm on the list of reviewers!
Magic Mushroom
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Where the hell does that even come from? Their writing is some of the best in the industry. Journalists like Rich Stanton and Simon Parkin, you know, the guy from The New Yorker list we had a thread about recently, are Edge contributors and they are regarded as some of the best games writers in the industry. Steven Poole is another.
I take it you never read it?
Pot, kettle, black. Edge didn't pick TW3 so now it's terrible.
Coded Heroin
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I'm gonna go ahead and assume that second line isn't for me. I've never played a Souls game and have only considered buying Bloodborne. Ultimately, I purchased Batman instead because it's more my cup of tea.
That was simply the vibe I got from the GT forum, not trying to justify a game I have not played.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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I won't argue the majority of the "quests", if you can even call them such, weren't awful but they were also for the most part optional.
I enjoyed DAI just as much as the Witcher 3. Both games have their flaws and while TW3 certainly is the better overall game in my opinion, DAI is far from a bad game.
I don't hold TW3 on some pedestal critically either. CDPR did an amazing job but they didn't do anything groundbreaking. They delivered an astonishing amount of well written content, with serviceable gameplay surrounding it.
Evaluating a game is not completely subjective in my eyes. That's where we and I'm sure I compared to many others here would not agree. I don't feel the combat in TW3 is particularly good either, only that it's not "terrible". People really come out swinging with their adjectives. I'm getting hung up on it though.
If we go under the assumption that a GOTY has meaning, I could ask far more questions about DA:I than I could TW3. It's also very disappointing to see a studio which has more potential drag itself down with games like Inquisition, whereas with Witcher we've seen mostly the opposite. CDPR has risen in ability beyond merely technical.
I could replace games with ______ - movies, songs, paintings, whatever. Some forms are considerably more ambiguous, but only up until a point.
I really don't understand the whole "combat is terrible" argument. Is it the best or most innovative combat system ever created? No, but it's fun and calling it "terrible" is straight up hyperbole.
I find a lot of people who call it terrible either die easily because they go into a crowd of enemies button mashing(the combat requires you to play the game strategically depending on the enemy you're fighting) or they ignore signs and alchemy, both of which are very much big parts of the combat system.
My biggest problem with the combat is the camera and the lock on system, but it's not a major issue for me.
If you keep on dying, it's not because the combat is terrible, it's because you're approaching the battle incorrectly and you need to change your strategy.
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