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[Koyuga]

Maybe Nintendo should stop trying to bring these games over? Clearly, we can't handle them. Would save everyone the headache at least.

 

[Majukun]

I don't think censorship is the right word for this.

depends..in some way,it sis,in some ways it is not

but a company has still the right to modify their works however they see fit..so it's ok..it's not like someone fored them to do so.

the even better option would be to give people the choice..but it's cheaper to just cancel the whole thing.

 

[QisTopTier]

I'm enjoying the performatory hyperbole in this thread a lot

There is hyperbole from every side in most threads.

Drug thing = date rape is hyperbole

Outrage over trivial feature added or removed in game = hyperbole

I just find it disappointing if we don't get something added for something taken away. Extra maps or whatever

 

[spindashing]

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But I guess a realistic battle sim that actually added extra depth by giving you options to inspire your troops in ways that match history is too much to ask.

Fire Emblem has always been about fantasy though.

Friendly face rubbing was a thing in the heat of battle? I may have missed that in history class.

Edit: I fell for it. Fuck

 

[YoYo Switch]

Just cancelled my pre order, you all should too

 

[Weebos]

Are marriages still in this game?

Ive been on media blackout.

Yes, and

Spoiler

kids.

 

[Gaz_RB]

FUCK YES.

 

[UnemployedVillain]

My problem with the censorship debate and the reason I might use a word like "localization'"in its place is that I just feel like when people state that something is being censored, it's typically assumed that this is inherently a bad thing. "Censorship" is bad. And as I've argued numerous times this isn't something I agree with necessarily. It can be a bad thing. But before I deride something as unnecessary censorship, I feel like it's important to examine what's being edited and why.

Yeah, censorship has a negative connotation, but it's not liek censorship and localisation are mutually exclusive. Something can be both, rather, something can be "censored in the process of localisation". But it is a somewhat vague line, because localization by definition involves the changing/removal of things for the sake of cultural coherence in the target locale. I guess I'd consider something censorship if it drastically changed the creator's intent, which is entirely subjective.

Although, that game about the school girls fighting and stuff for the 3DS. I remember reading an article on its localization and ages were upped to late teens, but how that drastically changed the perception of characters because it was suppose to be a coming of age story, and some of the characterization doesn't make sense with an older person. I feel like that is a case where the line is blurred, if not slightly crossed.

 

[Chase17]

Fine by me.

 

[lazyproblems]

I'm personally happy with this change.

 

[Clov]

Come on now, I was expecting some sort of Criminal Girls style petting and instead it's something like this? From the reaction of people here calling it creepy I was expecting much worse, this just looks silly.

It is just silly, really. Would have been a bit of fun, but for one reason or another, it hasn't made the jump. At least the main game is still on the way!

 

[Ridley327]

I'm not sure what issue people have with reality.

I've always enjoyed how FE's been getting closer and closer to a realistic portrayal of medieval warfare in recent releases adding interpersonal connections and romance in the midst of battle to humanize the soldiers, whilst keeping well documented historical events such as generals petting all their soldiers before battle to inspire them.

But I guess a realistic battle sim that actually added extra depth by giving you options to inspire your troops in ways that match history is too much to ask.

thatsdamngood.gif

 

[Chindogg]

It's a whatever feature to me, but I do find it kinda interesting how there's way more people in this thread with popcorn in hand waiting for a shitstorm than there are people screaming censorship.

 

[BatDan]

Just cancelled my pre order, you all should too

Hmmmm no. I'm not an overreacting crybaby.

 

[Lunarwhale]

Cool.

Mechanic sucked. Can't imagine how anyone actually enjoyed it - it required vigorously rubbing a character's face and felt really pointless. Could have been at least a sensible addition if it were implemented only for higher support ranks and required more gentle strokes rather than scraping the skin off the character's face.

 

[Canon]

Maybe Nintendo should stop trying to bring these games over? Clearly, we can't handle them. Would save everyone the headache at least.

They definitely need new people handling the localization or the decisions behind them.

 

[Drop]

That's kind of important too! What the hell!?

I won't lie, this really pisses me off, it's senseless content cutting.

 

[captainpat]

you're absolutely right

whoever was in charge at int sys should have cut this idea off at the knees when it was proposed

I know you're trying to be a Smart aleck about but yes. That or put it both versions. 99% of the time it really sucks when you know you're not getting the "complete" version.

 

[Draxal]

Once they added in the affinity and marriage they had to go down this road. What else could they do to out anime game trope themselves?

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As somebody pointed out marriage was introduced in the series in 1996. The series didn't start with the seventh game.

 

[Tohsaka]

I don't think censorship is the right word for this.

Well, they're removing very tame optional content and not replacing it with anything, so...

 

[Son Of D]

Has there been any DLC for Fates other than the third story? Because I won't be surprised if that gets packaged in to make up for the stuff that's been taken out.

 

[Snkfanatic]

Hmmmm no. I'm not an overreacting crybaby.

So edgy

 

[javac]

Maybe Nintendo should stop trying to bring these games over? Clearly, we can't handle them. Would save everyone the headache at least.

No thanks, there's more to the game than this creepy thing and I'll be enjoying it on release. Thanks Nintendo.

 

[Eolz]

Fates is going to sell way more than Awakening. Awakening bolstered the series' popularity in the West, and Smash probably amplified it even more.

Plus, there are two versions of the game, and many of us plan to get both. So, that alone will guarantee higher sales numbers.

Again, let's see how it does.
Personnally, I won't miss not buying it, it's not a niche series anymore.
I bought Fatal Frame and XCX despite the censorship (cut content is more than simple localization changes) since they are franchises needing support. Not needed for this one since Awakening, they won't miss less sales, and I won't miss giving money to a company worse every year at localizing games.

Still, good for them if it sells as well as Awakening. I don't expect it to magically sell more though. It's still an SRPG and unappealling to a lot of gamers.

 

[Vyse The Legend]

Just cancelled my pre order, you all should too

Nope. You just wanted my SE preorder. Sorry!

 

[oti]

Well, they're removing very tame optional content and not replacing it with anything, so...

... it's localization. To finish your sentence. Your welcome fam.

 

[Razzorn34]

People who cheer for a game's content getting cut are pretty weird.

From the article:



I wonder if we'll even get #FE at all now, since the whole game may be considered "inappropriate" for Americans.

And I don't like someone telling me that just because I'm American that I can't handle something so benign existing. It's really frustrating to be told that "we won't sell you something, because you're of X nationality and speak X language" and that is the entirety of their reasoning and nothing else.

No kidding, right? All this tells me, is that I apparently should have been born Japanese to get a full game experience.

 

[Javier]

It's going to be hilarious if the European release doesn't cut this.

 

[Dragonslayer_023]

Nintendo is out of control with this lately. I guess they're too afraid of losing sales in the West. Would anyone who planned to buy this have changed their mind if this stuff was left in?

 

[Black-Wind]

... I don't like this news one bit.

I don't get the point of cutting perfectly legit content that could be ignored by those who don't want to use it. I have seen people play through Pokemon XY and ORAS without ever touching the Pet Feature.

 

[kuroneko0509]

Has there been any DLC for Fates other than the third story? Because I won't be surprised if that gets packaged in to make up for the stuff that's been taken out.

maps etc.

 

[Ninjimbo]

Is it the same team doing the localisation?

I doubt it. I'm guessing PG had special say in the localizations of both Bayo 2 and W101 because it seems like those games were barely touched.

 

[Phocks]

thanks for less content

 

[UnemployedVillain]

As somebody pointed out marriage was introduced in the series in 1996. The series didn't start with the seventh game.

What do you expect when you have people here claiming that the series is only NOW adopting "anime" ideas/tropes/imagery?

 

[YoYo Switch]

Hmmmm no. I'm not an overreacting crybaby.

Well, you don't have a pre order to cancel anyway

 

[_woLf]

Removing an entire feature in a game for a certain territory is never okay in my book, no matter how...controversial it is. That's still a chunk of content that will be missing from a version of a game for no reason other than "we don't think you should play it."

Make it optional. Make it so if people want to participate in it, they can. Removing it entirely is not okay and continues to set a really gross precedent that Nintendo of America is following a bit too much lately.

I am incredibly disappointed by this change.

 

[DR2K]

Not a fan of this change. This is excessive. Especially if it was optional to begin with. I was all for the drug rape scene getting removed.

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

I don't like censorship or overzealous localization or whatever you want to call it... but honestly? I'm kiiiinnnnddaaa glad this is gone. It was dumb.

 

[careksims]

What a fucking disappointment. I was hoping all they took out was that dialogue... Somehow I just knew it. FE# is so damn next on the chopping block.

Can I have full games localize with everything intact for once?

 

[-Horizon-]

Has there been any DLC for Fates other than the third story? Because I won't be surprised if that gets packaged in to make up for the stuff that's been taken out.

yes there is dlc

and its already on amazon for preorder as a package for like $18

yeah, I doubt they're gonna include it in exchange lol

 

[partyphone]

Just cancelled my pre order, you all should too

I actually had zero interest in this game. I found all the marriage crap in the last one off putting and this seemed like a step up in the weird creepiness. might consider picking this up now.

 

[TriAceJP]

Marriage had been in FE loooonngg before Awakening. There was an entire game where marriage played a part in the story, as it took place over several generations (rather than time travel)

It didn't play out like it did in Awakening.

As somebody pointed out marriage was introduced in the series in 1996. The series didn't start with the seventh game.

No one was saying it did?

 

[Lothars]

Removing an entire feature in a game for a certain territory is never okay in my book, no matter how...controversial it is.

Make it optional. Make it so if people want to participate in it, they can. Removing it entirely is not okay and continues to set a really gross precedent that Nintendo of America is following a bit too much lately.

That's my issue, they should give people a choice regarding this.

 

[Tesser]

Hack the 3ds, import the japanese game , patch it , have the japanese game with english text and all content in place, be happy . Its what i'm gonna do.

Better yet, if it's 'your thing', just download the pseudo-3D models that are floating somewhere around the web and...BEHOLD...your waifu/husbando for desktop.

 

[L95]

Fire Emblem has always been about fantasy though.

Friendly face rubbing was a thing in the heat of battle? I may have missed that in history class.

Ephraim rubs Eirika's face in their C support conversation

Spoiler

I know you were talking about history class, but I like bringing this up because this trivia point amuses me

(Though it's actually slight translation error.)

 

[omlet]

Sounds like I may be flipping my limited edition and importing after all.

 

[Astra]

They censoring my creepy waifu touch!

I'm really glad it's gone. Fates just moved up on my want list.

 

[Regulus Tera]

It's like I traveled back to the 90s. Super disappointing.

 

[RM8]

Making Fire Emblem more like old Fire Emblem is my fanservice. And there's nothing wrong with fanservice! Please let me be serviced I'm looking forward to more localization changes.

 

[Producer]

thank God for CFW