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Am I the only one ashamed of the existence of DoA Xtreme 3?

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maxcriden

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Well of course, but this isn't about if DoA Xtreme is harmless or not it is about the OP being embarrassed that it even exists.

That's true.

Just like first person shooters create mass murderers and GTA constituites rapists, amirite. /scared

Nah, it's absolutely nothing like that. I'm not saying that women will be physically directly in harm's way (though culture of rape and objectification of women is not a coincidence IMO), I'm saying that sexual objectification is societally problematic. Absolutely nothing like the Jack Thompson-style argument against violent video games training Johnny to be a killer.
 

Vlaphor

Member
I think it's wonderful that this game exists. As someone who has pre-ordered it, I'm glad to buy what they're offering and hope more companies offer more like this. I think it's silly that this game isn't officially leaving Japan, since the people who would be outraged by this form a small, but loud minority of the overall gaming populace, not the main audience of these types of games and easily ignorable.

I'm also getting Senran Kagura and Galgun on PS4 when they come out as well. Viva fanservice!
 
I think it's wonderful that this game exists. As someone who has pre-ordered it, I'm glad to buy what they're offering and hope more companies offer more like this. I think it's silly that this game isn't officially leaving Japan, since the people who would be outraged by this form a small, but loud minority of the overall gaming populace, not the main audience of these types of games and easily ignorable.

I'm also getting Senran Kagura and Galgun on PS4 when they come out as well. Viva fanservice!

Alil off topic but is senran kagura multiplayer split screen or just online?
 

chiimisu

Member
I don't really care about this game. But DoAX3 threads are among the creepiest on the GAF That second-hand embarrassment :/ I wonder why mods allow them to exist.
 
It's more that I don't really get the appeal but I don't care. It has no bearing on my life, I just won't play it.

I get more annoyed when there's fanservice in a game that's supposed to be otherwise taken seriously.
 

Nibel

Member
TBH I'm more ashamed of 'gamer culture' than of people accepting or choosing to buy DOAX3
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There is erotic fiction, movies etc. DOAX3 is pretty tame by comparison. Not really sure what is wrong about a video game being made to pander to a specific audience. It's entertainment.

Yeah, this is true as well; while DOAX3 seems to be the current pinnacle of games that feature some form of nudity way worse shit with lesser known brands attached to it already exists. From what I understand DOAX3 is very voyeuristic and you can't really engage with the characters like in other games that focus on polygon/sprite women

your words hurt me and shinobi.

Nah, you two are pretty tame compared to what I've read on the internet; like, pretty tame, lol
 

Galdelico

Member
Come on now, don't be silly.

I'm the first one looking at it and thinking it's a load of crap, but I'd unleash such a prude thunderstorm over something else tbh.
 

V_Arnold

Member
Op, you are wrong, and your attacks on this game is EXACTLY what stupid gamergaters feel as "an attack on their beloved games".

First of all, you are free to look for trends in video games.

However, I am glad to say that DOAX3 is NOT the trend nowadays. It is a niche game for a niche audience. As much as I think it silly, it has every right to exist.
 

LiK

Member
I don't really care about this game. But DoAX3 threads are among the creepiest on the GAF That second-hand embarrassment :/ I wonder why mods allow them to exist.

well, don't enter those threads then. you're not forced to read them.
 

opoth

Banned
Sometimes I wish that my life was boring/mundane enough to have any shame or anger left over to be upset about a video game that I'll never play. As it is, there's plenty of real life things for those emotions to be applied to.
 
I see this attitude all the time and it's so bizarre.

It's like 'Sexual objectification in media is super, super bad, until enough clothing is removed that I can reclassify the media in question as porn, then it's okay again!'

Do you realise how inconsistent this is? It makes no sense. Either sexual objectification is a legitimate purpose of media or it isn't. And guess what - it is. Games are no exception.

Added to the fact that such a non-issue apparently makes you want to be violent; makes you feel 'shame' (why - it has nothing to do with you) and has a healthy dose of 'those perverted Japanese'-style racism, and I have to say the OP is phenomenally poor.

This man knows and every damn threads like that. You should read for improve yourself.

Your Xenoblade X censorship thread about writings was also very instructive.
 

TRI Mike

Member
I just cant stand it anymore. Everytime I see images or trailers of the game I feel the deepest of shames.

I feel the urge of hitting his devs on their faces and yell at them "what the hell do you think you are doing?"

I know it's a japanese game, made for japanese people, it's japanese culture and it have its market there, but outside Japan... I think that this game should be considered a sexist abomination, and every gamer with a minimum of social matturity should be angry at how this game treats girls.

The game might just be softcore porn and I would be fine with that. But that's not the case.

The game, just as japanese moe and fanservice garbage, presents the girls as stupid, brainless humanoid objects, only created to fit an stupid cliché and try to make the guys wet dreams real.

It saddens me that there's a serious game where the main focus is insulting people's intelligence with such surreal just-for-japanese clichés bullshit.

The, I see all the people saying how great the game looks, and I am all like, how can they like this abomination?

Needed to spit this fire out, sorry.

You should be ashamed of yourself.
 

Griss

Member
I don't really care about this game. But DoAX3 threads are among the creepiest on the GAF That second-hand embarrassment :/ I wonder why mods allow them to exist.

This feels like a good idea to ask what 'creepy' means in this context. What do you mean by this?

I personally refrain from posting in those threads (and frankly wish we were getting DoA6 instead of a crappy volleyball game) but I find them tremendously amusing.
 

jediyoshi

Member
I don't really care about this game. But DoAX3 threads are among the creepiest on the GAF That second-hand embarrassment :/ I wonder why mods allow them to exist.

I don't think you have to move much further up the chain to have people embarrassed about there being other people on their same internet who obsessively discuss video games on forums.
 

Devil

Member
Being ashamed of it is a weird way to phrase it, but I get where you're coming from. I also don't get why people say it's an honest game, while there are actually people who argue the game is not about half-naked women, but rather a volleyball or holiday simulation... Sure. Of course there should be a market for mostly everything, also softcore. But it's even less than that, it's nothing but a lot of teasing, I don't see any situation in which I'd like that more than real softcore material or hardcore, be it game or movie, which seems A LOT more honest to me than wrapping some shallow modes around a game designed for arousal.

I'm all in for people who want to wank to or get aroused by whatever they want. But it's nevertheless hard to argue against the fact that the existence of a game which stars _popular_ female characters of a fighting game series with a (more or less) serious backstory, which are now portrayed as nothing but virtual dolls to look at, is kind of harmful to the progress we made in the portrayal of women in video games.

I have a lot more respect for a self-assured pornstar than I have for the producers of this game, honestly.

And no, DoA(X) is not the only game which is harmful in that way, but it's definitely the japanese poster child.

They're videogame characters. It's literally what they are.
Stupid, humanoid objects created for certain purposes, in this case the purpose beeing sexual pleasure.

Ehhh, what? Going by that reasoning, we could just do whatever the fuck we want with video game characters without respect to gender, race, whatever, of any kind.
 

packy34

Member
I don't really care about this game. But DoAX3 threads are among the creepiest on the GAF That second-hand embarrassment :/ I wonder why mods allow them to exist.

Because people are allowed to enjoy different things and discuss them safely.
 

marrec

Banned
It's more that I don't really get the appeal but I don't care. It has no bearing on my life, I just won't play it.

I get more annoyed when there's fanservice in a game that's supposed to be otherwise taken seriously.

I mean, the appeal is pretty obvious. If you like mostly naked cartoon girls that you can control then you'll like DOAX3.
 

ocean

Banned
"Hey guys, this is extremely sexist and maybe in 2016 we should know better?"

--

"Don't be immature getting upset at what others like"
"Well this isn't anything new, it's also prevalent elsewhere (other mediums)"
"Don't take it so seriously"

I haven't seen anybody respond to the main assertion - how sexist this game is. Most people are using proxy arguments to maybe suggest that "yeah it's sexist but it doesn't matter because ______", which is an alarming train of thought. Says a lot about our community that this is the most common reaction.
 
I'm saying that sexual objectification is societally problematic.

Is sexual objectification problematic when the sole purpose of that game is titillation? Is every piece of porn societally problematic?
I don't really care about this game. But DoAX3 threads are among the creepiest on the GAF That second-hand embarrassment :/ I wonder why mods allow them to exist.

Mods actually keep those threads free from dumb driveby shitposts. We're protected by the law!
 

patapuf

Member
It's just a softcore porn game...

There's such a homongous amount of porn/erotica in all media (including games), being ashamed of a specific one is a waste of time.
 
In my bubble anything that gives me a boner is deemed pure and awesome without a hint of shame. One of those things just happens to be volleyball...
T&A jiggle
 
To be fair to SK, the game has infinitely deeper characters than what you get in DOAX3

That game is all about ninja's right? I'm certainly interested to see how they deve... *get's distracted by that hometown* Yeah, developed real good.

Anyway OP, 'social maturity' is the silliest thing I've heard someone come up with in order to legitemize to their puritanical ramblings. It's ok if you think the game is tacky and purile, but don't act like it's hurting women in anay way. People know what the game is about and who it's for, no one's going to play it and think to themselves "Man, women are all just a bunch of bimbo's who'll do anything for presents!"

Settle down, son.
 

Cleve

Member
Holy shit, I don't know where to start. I fucking love books, I wasn't embarrassed by the success of 50 shades of grey, I just didn't care. I love movies, I'm not embarrassed that people pay Adam Sandler to make them. I love videogames, I'm not embarrassed by DoAX3. None of these things make me feel violent, or even mildly upset in any way. They're things other people enjoy that don't hurt anyone.
 

Oblivion

Fetishing muscular manly men in skintight hosery
The op's anger at DOAX3 is completely misdirected.

Nay, the biggest problem with the game is that there's few girls in it that are jizzworthy. Where the hell are all the modelers who worked on Rachel in the Ninja Gaiden games?
 

Mendrox

Member
I just cant stand it anymore. Everytime I see images or trailers of the game I feel the deepest of shames.

I feel the urge of hitting his devs on their faces and yell at them "what the hell do you think you are doing?"

I know it's a japanese game, made for japanese people, it's japanese culture and it have its market there, but outside Japan... I think that this game should be considered a sexist abomination, and every gamer with a minimum of social matturity should be angry at how this game treats girls.

The game might just be softcore porn and I would be fine with that. But that's not the case.

The game, just as japanese moe and fanservice garbage, presents the girls as stupid, brainless humanoid objects, only created to fit an stupid cliché and try to make the guys wet dreams real.

It saddens me that there's a serious game where the main focus is insulting people's intelligence with such surreal just-for-japanese clichés bullshit.

The, I see all the people saying how great the game looks, and I am all like, how can they like this abomination?

Needed to spit this fire out, sorry.

Get a life. That is all.

It saddens me to see how serious some people take gaming.
 

Gbraga

Member
I think it's fine. The threads are very funny, and the booty is getting extra attention.

Cringe some more, OP, I liked the buttcracks too.
 

Mohasus

Member
I think that this game should be considered a sexist abomination, and every gamer with a minimum of social matturity should be angry at how this game treats girls.

I really can't understand how being angry at a VIDEOGAME is a sign of maturity.
 

striferser

Huge Nickleback Fan
It's a very niche game for a niche audience, and promoted as it is. It doesn't try to be high form of art or something.
Chill OP
 

marrec

Banned
I haven't seen anybody respond to the main assertion - how sexist this game is. Most people are using proxy arguments to maybe suggest that "yeah it's sexist but it doesn't matter because ______", which is an alarming train of thought. Says a lot about our community that this is the most common reaction.

Slow down now. We first have to accept the premise that this game is somehow more sexist than the background sexism of Video Games in general and I just don't see it.

I don't see what makes DOAX3 more sexist than softcore porn. Is it because of the narrative? The control aspects?

I think more malicious are games that purport themselves to be serious or for general audiences and contain questionably sexist content.
 

panty

Member
I feel more ashamed of people like you. The game is not for me but goddamn live your own life in your small little bubble. Geez
 

Nessus

Member
No more than the existence of bad TV shows makes me ashamed of the fact that I watch good TV shows. Which is to say not at all.

Just because someone plays video games doesn't mean I have anything in common with them.
 
"Hey guys, this is extremely sexist and maybe in 2016 we should know better?"

--

"Don't be immature getting upset at what others like"
"Well this isn't anything new, it's also prevalent elsewhere (other mediums)"
"Don't take it so seriously"

I haven't seen anybody respond to the main assertion - how sexist this game is. Most people are using proxy arguments to maybe suggest that "yeah it's sexist but it doesn't matter because ______", which is an alarming train of thought. Says a lot about our community that this is the most common reaction.

It's about as sexist as every other piece of porn made exclusively for men. Unless you want to argue that that shouldn't exist I'm not sure what else there is to say.
 

Dahaka

Member
I'm not ashamed about it but actually really surprised that virtual dolls or pixels have such an impact on quite a few people's sexual drive.
 
I've no desire to play it, but no, I'm not ashamed it exists. I like to read books but I'm not ashamed of sleazy "romance" novels because I don't read them.

This is called being mature and understanding that just because you partake of a certain medium doesn't mean that you are, or should be, the intended audience for everything that's published.

It's about as sexist as every other piece of porn made exclusively for men. Unless you want to argue that that shouldn't exist I'm not sure what else there is to say.

This.
 
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