BRocknRolla
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I personally think all of this is fine. As long as the length in between new console versions doesn't get abusive, I'll be glad to see a more rapid evolution of tech.
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Kotaku: Sony is working on a PS4.5; briefing devs on plans for a more powerful PS4
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DrROBschiz
Member
Lol at this thought process
Hawk269
Member
lmao. You expect a box to be released that lets you play 4k gaming in the 500-600 range??? That is some funny shit. 980ti's alone barely can hit 4k @30fps and that is turning some settings down to get there and those are +$600 GPU's alone. You want 4k and minimum 30fps out of console by the end of the year, expect to pay about $1,200.00 if not more for that pleasure. Perhaps in full year or year and a half you can get a console doing 4k/30fps at around $800+.
Sounds like a sure thing.
Hydrargyrus
Member
No please, no.
If this is the console's future, don't count on me.
If this is the console's future, don't count on me.
It does seem like they're playing chicken and MS calling all in every hand just to test.
Let's be honest, the practical result of this will be using PS4.0 as the baseline and then just upping the framerate and resolution.
Shhh...now...all happy dreams. Sony will take a loss in this one cause 4kgamers.
AMD/ATI magic...
Minimum Requirements:
PS4
(30 fps, 1080p)
Recommended Specifications:
PS4.5
(60 fps, 4k)
I think a lot of the fears here are justified. Most people are afraid that instead of going from 8 year gaps in consoles, we will suddenly begin moving to 2 year gaps where the predecessor becomes obsolete.
In this world where PS3/360 still sell millions of copies, Sony and Microsoft aren't stupid enough to suddenly shift their profit drivers to hardware and not royalties from software.
In this world where PS3/360 still sell millions of copies, Sony and Microsoft aren't stupid enough to suddenly shift their profit drivers to hardware and not royalties from software.
Agreed! If they do an update it should be a proper one.
DrROBschiz
Member
See this is what we im trying to wrap my head around
This has to be a model revision building in VR juice and allowing 4K video
The leap required for 4k gaming? Come the fuck on
If they try to give you a more powerful system up front. That was forward thinking people moaned about initial price. They try to upgrade mid cycle people moan. Just let console be ultra weak and cheap for those that want it. They can't break away, from the moaning of people, not willing to pay for the hobby.
AstroNut325
Member
I'm not understanding this mentality.
If you buy a monitor today and a better one comes out a year from now, will that make you upset? If you buy a car now, and an updated model is released next year, will that make you upset? What if you bought a printer today and a better one comes out a year from now... how does that affect you?
Yeah 4k is pretty niche right now. I think the details will be revealed and it's a HDMI upgrade with a 4k scalar built in. And everyone will go meh.
itsbenoclock
Member
If they're talking to developers about it now, it's surely a few years out still, which would be well in line with what we expected the console generation to last.
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
the 300W console?
Ninja Sharingan
Banned
A lot of people are going to feel silly after some of the things that were said about ms. Honestly if Microsoft get it so every ganes purchase bags me a pc copy of the game I will go with them
Kristijan1001
Member
If i can upgrade my current one count me in !
platina
Member
Let's not hope for a free upgrade when they're more than doubling processing power. Come on now, maybe a reduced upgrade but still.
KingdomHeartsFan
Member
LOL like its gonna be able to run 4k games.
Same here, I am not gonna go along with this.
They've already implied they're doing this.
EventHorizon
Member
That makes absolutely no sense. What will the millions of current owners do? Throw their PS4s in the trash and never buy another game? Current owners that don't upgrade will continue to buy games and play them as if the new version never came out.
Croatoan
They/Them A-10 Warthog
Yeah I know right? Wait, I just thought of something... What if they can focus on PS4 at 30fps and just have a 60fps toggle for PS4.5.?
Wouldn't that be great?
Or, holy shit, like, stay with me now, what if there were like different settings in games that you could turn on and off. So, lets say Motion Blur makes you sick? Turn that shit off and even on OG PS4 you get a bit better performance. Don't care for high rez shadows? Turn it off to get those FPSs!
But then, man this is the kicker, lets say you buy PS4 Prime and you can click all of the little boxes and STILL get 60fps at 1080p. Man, that would be cool wouldn't it? Like the games would be identical in substance but the graphics to fps ratio could vary based on user choice. What a concept!
VR is a different beast all together.
You speak the truth, I doubt this thing will be ready before 2018, and even than I think by that time we'll be living in a world where we are craving new hardware.
Also the sweet spot on PC has always been 2500X1600X60 FPS
.shadow2810
Member
Meanwhile my PS4 only has 1 game. Maybe I will start buying console at the end of generation instead of mid - if this is true.
digoutyoursoul
Member
Phones are on monthly contracts
At what?
Yeah I'm on board with this. I love Sony and I love my PS4 but if this is the shit I'm looking forward to? I'm going all PC, fuck Sony.
DrROBschiz
Member
This is hyperbole
Obsolete? Ps4 will handle another 2-3 years of games at least
You guys realize we are starting to hit atomic transistor limits right?
Sure but since GAF is neutral on platforms Sony's loss could be Microsoft's gain so it all evens out for gaming.
rayman1900
Member
The idea is really possible by today's standarts in a way, where PC seems to outrun everyone in the first place. Let's not forget Nintendo did the first plunge with their New N3DS. When that happened, it just fractured their install base, and their install base is waayyyy more populated than the PS4 20 millions adopters. If Nintendo was ready to do so, I don't see why Sony wouldn't follow...
Dragon1893
Member
Games rendering at native 4k? That would be closer to a PS6 than a PS4.5.
I can see a new iteration happen but 4k? Pure BS.
I can see a new iteration happen but 4k? Pure BS.
FarFromAnyGame
Banned
I don't understand why people don't want this. If they make it backwards and forwards compatible, I don't see the problem.
PS4.0 has to be no less than 1080p/30fps though.
PS4.0 has to be no less than 1080p/30fps though.
aygomyownroad
Member
I've given it more thought.
I have been gaming since the mega drive.
The turn around times on consoles then was quite quick. Especially ones which failed.
More power was needed and I remember getting the mega drive when i was 6, sega CD and then a Saturn 5 years later, a PlayStation later and then 3 years later getting a ps2 at launch, then 5 years later it was an Xbox 360.
From then it was a full 8 years for the next gen to arrive. We have had a very long generation, and it will be strange to go back to those days of a new gen every 5 years, as so far we are halfway through!
I think having consoles that have an increase in power in increments may be a good solution, but many people may just want another long generation.
I have been gaming since the mega drive.
The turn around times on consoles then was quite quick. Especially ones which failed.
More power was needed and I remember getting the mega drive when i was 6, sega CD and then a Saturn 5 years later, a PlayStation later and then 3 years later getting a ps2 at launch, then 5 years later it was an Xbox 360.
From then it was a full 8 years for the next gen to arrive. We have had a very long generation, and it will be strange to go back to those days of a new gen every 5 years, as so far we are halfway through!
I think having consoles that have an increase in power in increments may be a good solution, but many people may just want another long generation.
PdotMichael
Banned
Wanna sell all the consoles for -100$ profit
FinalStageBoss
Banned
Which is why this whole Kotaku rumor reeks of bullshit, they are claiming 4k gaming.
Head.spawn
Junior Member
Good shit, AMD/Nvidia upcoming processor jumps are going to be too good to ignore as far as power per watt. It's either waste it on an Xbox One/PS4 Mini or go big... Maybe they should do both.
wonderful103
Member
New 3DS was a sort of half step in that direction, with fragmentation.
NX, Playstation, and Xbox platforms will be platforms. No fragmentation and you get X years of support for older models, just like phones/tablets.
Graphics Horse
Member
I wouldn't expect it to be able to suddenly run the ps4 library at 4k, but some games should be able to be written for 4k if they feel it's worth it, just as some games are being made for native 120fps VR on the current APU, which is half way there.
Could imagine a 'best on ps4.5' label on Gran Turismo 7 whenever that comes out.
Could imagine a 'best on ps4.5' label on Gran Turismo 7 whenever that comes out.
Mediking
Member
Pretty much. This is spinning out of control.