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[superNESjoe]

How would you play VC games on this?

By setting your 3DS *on* top of it, taping it together, and then playing your 3DS.

 

[meitantei_conan]

- I just so happen to have some black acrylic plastic used for a stage prop on hand, so I took a few pictures just to show what it looks like in person compared to the controller. Lighting is obviously very different, but you can see how reflective it is. Our cuts are very rough because we had to cut it by hand since the shop with the water cutter couldn't get the CAD files to work.

 

[Mestizo]

For those just catching up

• Leaks of the same device a different leaker gave out appeared, black model this time
• Game Informer states "yep that looks similar to what I heard, not confirming it tho"
• Treehouse staff retweets this thread
• A new leaked image appears on the internet, at another angle
• Treehouse staff deletes tweet mysteriously later
• Still waiting for a bold back of the unit image
• TEAMREAL AND TEAMFAKE EMERGE

Thank you anon.

I'm TeamFake ovbiusly

 

[perfectchaos007]

That's not just the NX controller...that's the NX! Think about it...the leak about the wireless HDMI dongle...no actual pictures of a traditional console...The "controller" IS the NX.

an oval iTouch with thumb nubs? ehh

 

[baconcow]

Add me to #TeamFake. These are two rather convincing 3D printed models based on limited information. But, with their obvious design differences (lack of microphone slot, different analog stick design, and varying materials) and the high stupidity of the actual design, I cannot believe this is real.

 

[Ninjimbo]

The thirst is real.
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Now you're making me thirsty!

 

[Soapbox Killer]

Dawg...

June 13-16 is going to be lit for E3 this year. Fuck, I better put in for PTO tomorrow at work just so I can watch it on the real lmao. Sure I got PTO for the end of June but I gotta make that extra time.

Good point. Got 4 weeks to burn and cant afford a vacation might as well


Also if real, I'm thinking chromecast style dongle that auto plays on Tv when you join the the WiFi

 

[jabberwocker]

#teamcoco

 

[Moor-Angol]

So, there will surelybe a "normal" controller, too, right?

you call normal a controller w/o d-pad and buttons?

I really hope it's fake

 

[TheLegendOfCap]

- I just so happen to have some black acrylic plastic used for a stage prop on hand, so I took a few pictures just to show what it looks like in person compared to the controller. Lighting is obviously very different, but you can see how reflective it is. Our cuts are very rough because we had to cut it by hand since the shop with the water cutter couldn't get the CAD files to work.

YES. ACRYLIC.

put me on #TeamFake.

This was a 3D print job with a (laser cut?) acrylic fitted into it. I assumed plastic, acrylic is the material.

 

[DjRalford]

Add me to #TeamFake. These are two rather convincing 3D printed models based on limited information. But, with their obvious design differences (lack of microphone slot, different analog stick design, and varying materials) and the high stupidity of the actual design, I cannot believe this is real.

Different analogue stick design, to me it looks like the sticks are away on one version, but out on the other, almost as if when they are require they rise up, could use that fluid tech maybe?

 

[Indigo Rush]

Er, who would want to play VC games on this? Remember that great MM2 iOS port?

The buttons are rumored to either have haptic feedback or special fluids that impress on the screen. The technology exists.

And no, I don't remember that port, too busy playing the Sonic 2 Android port (which controls far better than you'd think)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiCqlYKRlAA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrSKbTzc4BI

 

[Matrix XII]

I'm willing to have an open mind but it just looks so uncomfortable to hold. Nintendo does not have a good track record for ergonomic handhold devices or controllers.

 

[SatoAilDarko]

I haven't posted in this thread yet and I'm not taking a side because who knows what's up.

I would be fine if this was the controller because Nintendo has been very good with ergonomics. The Gamepad is very comfortable for me to hold and even though I have grips for my 3DS and Vita to have those back bumps they aren't as comfortable.

It does appear real but I have a few doubts that prevent me from fully believing.

1. While the idea definitely could be Nintendo the look seems very different. None of the DS's have been very sleek. This looks like a nice phone.

2. The tech seems really advanced. The Gamepad while expensive for containing a stuff like NFC, IR, Sensor Bar, Camera didn't have anything new to it. It was still standard controls with a large DS screen. The Wii Remote wasn't that new tech wise. Some accelometers, LED tracking and standard buttons.

This controller would have a rounded display that opens in two areas, a new type of stick, scroll shoulder buttons and haptic feedback. That is a lot of uncommon tech that's not seen in consumer electronics.

3. How would recent Nintendo games work on this? Splatoon has shown to be hugely popular and uses clickable inputs (may be in the controller I don't know). How would you go about designing Mario Maker courses with such a smaller area and a finger instead of a stylus? How user-friendly would that be? Every console Nintendo made had a D-pad. 2D Platformers continue to be very successful for them as seen on the Wii and Wii U. Yoshi did over 1.2 million almost all in the West.

I but it does look real so once again who knows?

 

[Plinko]

I'm on #TeamNoIdea.

If this is a fake, it is really, really well done.

 

[Outtrigger888]

I'm willing to have an open mind but it just looks so uncomfortable to hold. Nintendo does not have a good track record for ergonomic handhold devices or controllers.

Have you held a device shaped like that? I think it would be quite comfortable.

Different analogue stick design, to me it looks like the sticks are away on one version, but out on the other, almost as if when they are require they rise up, could use that fluid tech maybe?

Could be a revision?

 

[daemonic]

I'm willing to have an open mind but it just looks so uncomfortable to hold. Nintendo does not have a good track record for ergonomic handhold devices or controllers.

I'll give you handhelds, but the Gamecube, Wii, and Wii U controllers are all really damn comfortable to hold.

 

[Thraktor]

This sounds good on paper, but I think in practice, it would appeal to neither casuals or core gamers.

The smart phone is the logical conclusion to Nintendo's philosophy of simplifying controls. The problem is that they aren't smart phone makers. Maybe with the Wii money they could have positioned themselves to be that way, but that would obviously be a huge under taking and very risky, and not something they wanted to do. But unfortunately by not doing so, I think they have basically lost any hope of getting the casual market they so desperately want.

I don't really see why a device like this would appeal to casuals. If Nintendo is going to simply make simplified games for them, what does this device offer them that one of the numerous smart devices they probably already own doesn't? (This is why I think they need focus on mobile hard or go back to focusing on the core gamers).

The lack of physical buttons will most likely piss off the core gamers. At best is a non-ideal solution.

So like I said before, in their attempt to appeal to both, they appeal to neither.

The point isn't just to sell stuff to non-gamers, it's to get those people to transition towards the wider range of software Nintendo has on the device. Making games for phones is all well and good in itself, but it's not going to make people any more likely to buy and play their dedicated gaming hardware, which is obviously where the focus of the company should be. Lowering the barrier of entry (like they did with Wii) is vital to bringing new players in, but unlike the Wii they need to convert those people into "gamers" in order to ensure they stay around and continue buying Nintendo products.

A controller with touchscreen buttons and good haptic feedback would do that, by providing a single device which is both not a barrier of entry to new gamers (i.e. it's not intimidating) and capable of acting as a fully "traditional" controller in terms of number and layout of buttons.

And the device doesn't have to "appeal" to casuals, or to core gamers or to anyone else. Games sell consoles, not controllers, and the best thing a controller can do is not get in the way of someone's enjoyment of a game. For non-gamers, this would obviously be a much lower barrier for them to start playing a game. For core gamers, it should still do the job so long as the haptic feedback is good enough (and given Nintendo's history, focussing too heavily on core gamers doesn't tend to be a good business move for them).

Furthermore, Nintendo doesn't need to make simplified games for anyone, they already make plenty of games that are easy to understand and only use two or three buttons. The problem is that, for a non-gamer, even if the game itself only uses two buttons, trying to figure out what they are from the face buttons, sticks, d-pads, shoulder buttons and triggers on a modern controller is just too big a hurdle to climb.

 

[wtd2009]

I think the patent says you can use the right stick as a button so I think it could be more like this

That fits with the leaked schematic that shows those grips attached to the screen. I'd buy that. It's like a way more refined wii u. Pretty awesome if real.

 

[DarkLegion]

Well April Fools is coming up so it's possible it can be an elaborate fake. Kinda want to believe it's real though. I'm warming up to the design of the controller.

 

[Gsnap]

team i don't know what to think.

so many things pulling me in both directions. If it works, then I don't have a problem with it being real, but there are just as many things pointing to it not being real. I guess I hope it's fake just because I want the actual reveal to still be a surprise.

 

[Linkhero1]

I can picture Reggie on stage.
"This may look like an ordinary touch controller, but there's more to it than meets the i.
Introducing… . The New Wii U"

I want this to happen because it's fucking hilarious.

 

[Murder. She Wrote]

Literarily the only reason I think it's fake is because it's too oblong, but we'll see soon enough.

 

[Bakkus]

So you'd require people to buy an extra controller to play? All games must be playable with default controls.

They could bundle it with consoles?

 

[OrbitalBeard]

I can picture Reggie on stage.
"This may look like an ordinary touch controller, but there's more to it than meets the i.
Introducing… . The New Wii U"

lol

I can totally see this happening, especially if this disaster of a controller is legit.

 

[LordOfChaos]

I think the patent says you can use the right stick as a button

Isn't that every modern controller?

 

[AdanVC]

Even if this turns out to be real or fake, I just really really really REALLY want this console to be named NX. It's short, easy and neat to pronunce and doesn't create any kind of brand confusion.

 

[Protann]

I know someone linked this the last thread about NX, but it's still applicable.

https://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63251

That thing everyone scoffed at would end up selling 100 Million units. I feel like we don't have the full story on this controller- I'll be shocked if it's exactly what it looks like and we really just end up with regular touch screen buttons. I have faith that Nintendo is going to make this weird-ass controller work, because they've made weird-ass controllers work since the N64.

 

[KamiCrit]

Even if this turns out to be real or fake, I just really really really REALLY want this console to be named NX. It's short, easy and neat to pronunce and doesn't create any kind of brand confusion.

We all know it's going to be the "New Wii U".

 

[SinCityAssassin]

- I just so happen to have some black acrylic plastic used for a stage prop on hand, so I took a few pictures just to show what it looks like in person compared to the controller. Lighting is obviously very different, but you can see how reflective it is. Our cuts are very rough because we had to cut it by hand since the shop with the water cutter couldn't get the CAD files to work.

Shit, that's right. I'd usually use acrylic for that sort of detail.

 

[Chezzymann]

We all know it's going to be the "New Wii U".

Wii US

 

[Odrion]

I'm calling it the stewie.

 

[James Scott]

Isn't that every modern controller?

Well, yeah, but a more usable one as far as I'm guessing. I don't think they'd make it look so weird if it didn't have added functionality

 

[RPGamer92]

I hope NX is matte and not glossy.

 

[Dmax3901]

If Nintendo went all out and announced that if you buy the NX you get access to the entire virtual console for free. Do you reckon they'd sell like hotcakes?

 

[cordy]

Question...

To those who think it's fake, what do you think the real controller/system will look like? Just curious.

 

[BY2K]

- I just so happen to have some black acrylic plastic used for a stage prop on hand, so I took a few pictures just to show what it looks like in person compared to the controller. Lighting is obviously very different, but you can see how reflective it is. Our cuts are very rough because we had to cut it by hand since the shop with the water cutter couldn't get the CAD files to work.

SO wait, what does that tell us?

 

[oatmeal]

I can picture Reggie on stage.
"This may look like an ordinary touch controller, but there's more to it than meets the i.
Introducing… . The New Wii U"

lol

great

 

[Vena]

SO wait, what does that tell us?

That its fake. You don't use acrylic for a screen, and that's super reflective.

 

[Ashodin]

YES. ACRYLIC.

put me on #TeamFake.

This was a 3D print job with a (laser cut?) acrylic fitted into it. I assumed plastic, acrylic is the material.

Nah fam you can't leave us like that

Check out the acrylic he posted. It's too clear the images in the reflection. The ones on the controller are kinda blurry.

Come back to #teamreal fam

 

[ManeKast]

Wii US

Don't even...... lol.

 

[Mr. Wonderful]

Did we decide that the nubs aren't also buttons contextually?

 

[Snaku]

3rd parties aren't going to touch this thing with a 12 inch dick. Not a chance in hell it gets the big multiplats.

 

[bachikarn]

The point isn't just to sell stuff to non-gamers, it's to get those people to transition towards the wider range of software Nintendo has on the device. Making games for phones is all well and good in itself, but it's not going to make people any more likely to buy and play their dedicated gaming hardware, which is obviously where the focus of the company should be. Lowering the barrier of entry (like they did with Wii) is vital to bringing new players in, but unlike the Wii they need to convert those people into "gamers" in order to ensure they stay around and continue buying Nintendo products.

A controller with touchscreen buttons and good haptic feedback would do that, by providing a single device which is both not a barrier of entry to new gamers (i.e. it's not intimidating) and capable of acting as a fully "traditional" controller in terms of number and layout of buttons.

And the device doesn't have to "appeal" to casuals, or to core gamers or to anyone else. Games sell consoles, not controllers, and the best thing a controller can do is not get in the way of someone's enjoyment of a game. For non-gamers, this would obviously be a much lower barrier for them to start playing a game. For core gamers, it should still do the job so long as the haptic feedback is good enough (and given Nintendo's history, focussing too heavily on core gamers doesn't tend to be a good business move for them).

Furthermore, Nintendo doesn't need to make simplified games for anyone, they already make plenty of games that are easy to understand and only use two or three buttons. The problem is that, for a non-gamer, even if the game itself only uses two buttons, trying to figure out what they are from the face buttons, sticks, d-pads, shoulder buttons and triggers on a modern controller is just too big a hurdle to climb.

I think your and Nintendo's premise is ultimately wrong. Converting 'non-gamers' or 'casuals' to gamers is extremely difficult and not something that should be the basis of your business. This was their philosophy with the Wii, and it is clear that very few of them actually converted to be core gamers. So all they did was alienate some of their core.

I also think 'being good enough' for core gamers is a fundamentally flawed idea. They are just further alienating their base in their futile attempt to convert casuals to core. It's just going to push more Nintendo gamers to PS4 or xbone.

But like you said, Nintendo's main appeal is their software. I wished they just focused on that unless they have a truly revolutionary idea like the Wii. I think their gimmicky controllers do more harm than good.

 

[MrV4ltor]

SO wait, what does that tell us?

That the screen could easily be faked by someone who has access to the proper cutter.

 

[Ashodin]

3rd parties aren't going to touch this thing with a 12 inch dick. Not a chance in hell it gets the big multiplats.

What if the consoles are on-par and the iterative PS4/xbone aren't much to upgrade to? Then the multiplat would be easy to do.

 

[MilkBeard]

A 3D printed device, maybe, or a rear-view mirror with finely cut acrylic and nipple nubs put in? Seems plausible.

I was teamreal, but after the tweets, I've turned coat.

TeamFake all the way, and thank god. Not a good idea for a new console from Nintendo.

 

[Bauer Action Hour]

I'm calling it the stewii.

fixed.

 

[publicpwnerer]

NX, we hardly knew ye.


How do we work bomba into the NX codename?

 

[ItWillGetBetter]

Regardless of fake. An oval design for a phone would be neat. For a mobile gaming device too. But the lack of physical buttons kind of stinks.