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[23qwerty]

ok wait so it literally took one person? was there more support for this?

it's almost as if the devs agreed when they actually sat down and thought about it, weird huh?

 

[GavinUK86]

No Tracer butt = no sale.

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I kid! I kid!

 

[Sephzilla]

Something players could choose? Or something?

Either way it's silly.

It's an unlockable option.

If its an optional thing, I think removing it is kind of dumb to be honest. But it's their game, so whatever.

 

[mugwhump]

Keep it in but make it optional?

 

[McDougles]

Moral =/= ethical, necessarily.

Blizzard is not ethically bound to respond to posters on their forums to change gameplay content, but in the long run, perhaps the game director thought it was for the moral good of the project and its fans.

Calling it an ethical reason is straight up bullshit.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

Save the butts

 

[Garrett Hawke]

it's almost as if the devs agreed when they actually sat down and thought about it, weird huh?

Nah this change was probably made at gunpoint bro

 

[kulapik]

The official forums are a total cesspool right now. I really don't understand all the outrage on this topic. The pose is out of character for Tracer and is needlessly sexualized. Nothing of value was lost by removing it from the game.

Are we looking at the same pose?

 

[EatinOlives]

Here's a radical idea:

Let devs do whatever they want to their own creation.

 

[iNvid02]

that pose is over the shoulder, watching you watch her butt

if thats not overwatch i dont know what is

 

[Kangi]

Kudos to Blizzard for listening to fan feedback... at least, in this game.

 

[chiimisu]

B-but censorship...

 

[flintstryker]

Ethical reason? lol the fucks?

 

[valkillmore]

that pose is over the shoulder, watching you watch her butt

if thats not overwatch i dont know what is

Dude

 

[doctorblurg]

That blizzard forum post makes a lot of sense tbh. It doesn't fit her character. It fits widowmaker though and I doubt they'll be changing hers

 

[BananasWithGuns]

I mean if that's what they want to do then whatever but...it's just an ass.

 

[jesu]

I think they are removing it for the attention removing it will bring.

 

[Dance Inferno]

Are we looking at the same pose?

I don't know, do you mean the one where she's sticking her ass in your face? Or the one where she's standing backwards so that you can look at her ass?

 

[PSqueak]

Did they also fix that sniper chick's butt expanding when she takes aim?

 

[SmoothRunningGun]

Lol.

 

[Firestorm]

Uh, OverwatchGG isn't the official Twitter. Have you considered linking to the actual source?

it's almost as if the devs agreed when they actually sat down and thought about it, weird huh?

Seriously. This wasn't a mob or anything. The reaction to this has been ridiculous. Apparently you can't iterate on your own product anymore without the internet losing its shit.

 

[blamite]

Here's a radical idea:

Let devs do whatever they want to their own creation.

Seems to me like that's exactly what happened.

 

[captainpat]

How about game devs design their characters in a non-sexualized manner in the first place so they don't have cave later?

 

[ponpo]

This is still in tho.

Not worth the outrage. If it doesn't fit the character then the pose just seems corny. You can see her bum all the time anyway and others still have "sexy" poses so whatever.

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Still, D.VA bum pose when.

 

[GavinUK86]

Keep it in but make it optional?

 

[Yukinari]

Imagine if companies listened to a single poster and changed something in their beta to actually improve gameplay instead of something petty like this.

Man would that be the day.

 

[EmSeta]

Am I seeing things wrong or is that her naked ass? Doesn't really seem like something fit for a mainstream Blizzard game. I don't see what all the fuss is about.

 

[Old Gimlet Eyes]

Yeah the over the shoulder butt pose is a bit much. Nothing was lost by removing it.

 

[Kurt Russell]

Here's a radical idea:

Let devs do whatever they want to their own creation.

Well, that's what they are doing right now

I don't get the outrage over this kind of thing. If the devs agreed that it doesn't fit Tracer's character, then what's the reason for people being angry at the change? There's no censorship here, just iterative game design.

 

[Corpekata]

Seems to me like that's exactly what happened.

Not allowed to take advice or criticism when it comes to boobs and butts, it's in the game design bylaws.

 

[disappeared]

Cammy's been doing it for over two decades.

 

[SteveO409]

Male equivalent of the pose

 

[Lactose_Intolerant]

Yes Ladies, stop being sexy!

Would an over the shoulder pose be a problem if she wasn't wearing painted on clothing? Look at the rest of her outfit, how does it go with it?

Like the pose above me, though those are some pretty ankles.

Maybe I'm too stupid to get why they changed it though. I guess it doesn't fit the character as opposed to the femme fatale they have where it fits.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

I think they are removing it for the attention removing it will bring.

Yup. They get brownie points with people who might've never been interested from Overwatch, and then they'll see the well made characters and be like 'I feel this game has characters that can represent me'.

They lose brownie points from people so angry they don't get their digital butt. But the game is so damn fun that people will still likely play it.


....Blizzard pls give me a beta key

 

[Linkark07]

Eh... They shouldn't have added it in the first place, but whatever. Good for them I guess.

 

[antitrop]

It's their game, they can do whatever they want.

I just have to question how it was even there in the first place.

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

What butt?

 

[Mechazawa]

Honestly, the OP of that thread made a pretty convincing argument. It's a pose unbefitting of Tracer, but completely appropriate for a femme fatale design like Widowmaker.

Here's a radical idea:

Let devs do whatever they want to their own creation.

They are. They're choosing to institute changes based on some feedback from the community.

Radical indeed.

 

[sleepykyo]

I'm ok with this. Still sad I never got into the betas.

 

[captainpat]

Am I seeing things wrong or is that her naked ass? Doesn't really seem like something fit for a mainstream Blizzard game. I don't see what all the fuss is about.

Doesn't it though?

 

[Stone Ocean]

Nothing wrong with the reasoning - specially since Widowmaker still has hers - but boy is that tweet wording gonna rile people up.

 

[Ito]

Fine by me tbh

Always funny how "artistic integrity" is pulled up as a defender for INCREASED sexualisation but it's always seen as "pandering" when the opposite is done.

Your avatar

 

[kulapik]

I don't know, do you mean the one where she's sticking her ass in your face? Or the one where she's standing backwards so that you can look at her ass?

She's standing backwards. And yes, she's showing her butt. Is that sexualized?

 

[Spring-Loaded]

We'll always have fan art and SFM

 

[mishakoz]

"Okay, we dont want to sexualize her so we will wont show her frontside in any pose. We'll show her from the back"

"But sir, you forgot, her butt is on her backside. Then we'd be showing her butt"

"Damn you're right! What angles are left?

"Side?"

"Nope, theres sideboob"

"From above?"

"No thats blatant top boob"

"From below?"

"Good God man are you insane?"

"Well, what angles are left?"

"Umm... we could show her victory pose with a zoom in on her elbow...or something..."

"....this just might work. That way we can prevent millions of gamers from seeing female frontsides and backsides, just like real life"

 

[sqwarlock]

Nothing wrong with the reasoning - specially since Widowmaker still has hers - but boy is that tweet wording gonna rile people up.

And that's exactly what they want to happen.

 

[akidnamededdy]

Meanwhile, the Boob Illuminati claims another victory over the Butt Freemasons, celebrating quietly in their secret meeting halls across the world. Their eternal battle continues...

 

[captainpat]

We'll always have fan art SFM

There is a lot of overwatch sfm porn. Like a lot.

 

[woopWOOP]

It's hard being an ass man

 

[Daeoc]

Here we go again... still waiting for these things to start happening and be more common for male characters too.