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Killer Instinct on W10 framerate tied to monitor refresh - with 144hz it's unplayable
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Tizoc
Member
Those are hacks actually;' he rainbow editions
BibiMaghoo
Member
It's been years since anyone tried to copy SF2 turbo and cranked it up to 10. Good on them.
Dinky Dino
Member
Right. But what Phil says and what happens are two different things. Well it's not like I'm completely closed off to changes but the fact is the higher ups get the final say. Over 18 months of Tim nagging and they only now begin to mobilize. It's a simple rule for most people. If they make UWP fully open allowing stuff like overlays and injectors then no issue there are benefits to UWP as well. If not then they will fail. Can't get more basic
Title of thread is wrong. Framerate should be tied to the refresh rate assuming vsync is enabled. The gamespeed however should not be tied to the framerate.
Back on track I think this will be patched sooner than later.
Killer Instinct looks like a great port besides this issue. The same issue that the non-UWP game Fallout 4 still has for example.
KI has cross-play damnit!
Back on track I think this will be patched sooner than later.
Killer Instinct looks like a great port besides this issue. The same issue that the non-UWP game Fallout 4 still has for example.
KI has cross-play damnit!
Temporary solution hopefully.
One is an actual working and temporary workaround. The other one is a shit PR quote.
Yeah, completely the same.
pineapplepizza
Member
What a great post, "Nuh-uh you're the one that's shit-posting!", feel free to elaborate there bub.
Please share in the video where he explains why he doesn't change the refresh rate because I missed it:
"Uhmmm... did you guys test your game?"
"That's way too fast"
*Laughter*
"Guys you gotta fix your game..."
"Ya gotta fix your game its broken"
"I'm not turning down my resfresh rate for your fucking game"
What a great, very well explained and informative video in an already very informative original thread post.
Hentailover
Member
Thread title is not wrong in this particular case. Fighting games need to stay at 60 fps. You can't balance frame timings, when you have no set framerate.
FunkyDealer
Banned
It's a bit strange how they didn't catch this during QA.
I'm sure it'll be fixed soon, but Microsoft isn't making a good impression with the W10 store games so far. At all.
I'm sure it'll be fixed soon, but Microsoft isn't making a good impression with the W10 store games so far. At all.
LukasTaves
Member
Yeah, that's an uwp thread alright.
People can already fix it by changing the refresh rate. Not ideal either, buta fix nonetheless.
You actually can, but they didn't so that's a moot point. Anyway, it's crazy they didn't catch that. Not to mention it'll obviously lead to desyncs in online matches.
Then use Inspector as already pointed out a dozen times.
Did you manage to not read at all? It has jackshit to do with "exclusivity" and everything with how completely shitty UWP is.
KingpinZero
Member
Ok i understand that lacking an option to cap the framerate pissess off alot of peoples, but arent those the ones that are professed Pc Gamers Experts?
If that so, ok argue that it needs to be fixed...but nvidia inspector and MSI Afterburner offers framecap and framelimiters...why not use it and call it a day?
Just my 2 cents.
I can understand that not having it running at 144fps pisses off anyone that has a 144hz panel, but also if you plan to have a good time or challenge someone in a cup/tournament think that they will use 60hz tvs or monitors anyway. Mostly.
If that so, ok argue that it needs to be fixed...but nvidia inspector and MSI Afterburner offers framecap and framelimiters...why not use it and call it a day?
Just my 2 cents.
I can understand that not having it running at 144fps pisses off anyone that has a 144hz panel, but also if you plan to have a good time or challenge someone in a cup/tournament think that they will use 60hz tvs or monitors anyway. Mostly.
A lot of the games on GFWL were good, and it seems that many on the store are/will be as well.
The problem is the platform, and in a way, the reason why we are seeing these games in the first place: MS wants to reshape PC gaming into their own thing.
They are envisioning a future for pc gaming that is objectively worse for consumers, and then it stand to reason that the platform they are using is also worse.
Jonneh3003
Banned
An issue for sure but at least its on PC and is playable at 60hz. I'm just happy this is finally out on PC and is playable with an easy adjustment.
Because windows store applications have the .exe for the game hidden and thus rendering msi afterburner and nvidia inspector useless. The only real workaround is setting your monitor to 60hz which makes it 60hz for everything, thus needing to disable the option one you're done gaming KI.
Shit solution for shit problem. A Workaround is something you have to do once until a patch comes out, not a hassle that you have to go through to make your system fit an app and not the other way around.
Because Microsoft doesn't understand PC Gaming, and came up with a weird API that trades flexibility and openness with """"""security"""""".
nvidia inspector works tho.
You can not use inspector on a specific game if the exe is hidden.
How? Im interested. It "works" by setting up global configuration? Because then it's still useless.
Exactly what I was expecting, thank you for the confirmation. So much misinformation on this thread.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
So a potential customer? Or are only people who got the game free allowed to complain it doesnt work?
Set it in base profile. it has the same effect but I guess it's easier then to switch the monitors refresh rate.
Ah you not sure? Ill put it quarantine then until someone reports back.
I will be surprised this works considering inspector cannot access .exe, dont know how it'll be able to inject.
:facepalm:
No offense.
He probably owns Window 10, so he should be classified as "fan enough". Anyway, you are introducing customers categorization which are telling a lot about your own agenda.
Yeah this is a sixty frame only game...your monitor is hilarious and not supported...move on
Bl@de
Member
He's not wrong. Gears of War has a UWP profile in NV inspector that worked (used it to cap framerate to 30fps without getting bad framepacing).
Instead of facepalming you could post what's wrong?
Yeah I know, just couldn't remember the name. Thanks!
What's wrong is that we exchanged 3 replys to understand that the only "workaround" available right now is to setup your monitor to 60hz, wether you do it through windows configuration or nvidia inspector does not change the fact that you have to do the manipulation twice everytime you want to play the game and that there's no way to setup an specific configuration for this game thanks to UWP, which is what any pc gamer would have done for an specific configuration for an specific game.
Is not only that they QA was ridiculous, but also that they disallowing us from an acceptable workaround thanks to their platform.
We need confirmation on this. If we have a similar profile for KI then it's all good.
Dee Dah Dave
Member
Super Killer Instinct Turbo?
I will try in a few hours.
I got asked how and do not understand how the solution is useless. But I guess I am an idiot for helping with a workaround until the game is updated. Very sorry.
Yes.
JayWood2010
Member
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Because EA or Blizzard games generally dont have this problem. The one that did, NFS:Rivals, was complained about to high heaven.
I meant complaining they are not on other DD service.
That doesn't matter? The point of the thread is that while you're able to play, certain people can't and have to wait instead of fixing it themselves/instantly with third party applications because of the limitations of UWP.
But stay salty?
RealityCheque
Banned
I'll say this for win10 store games, at least they're consistent(ly shite).
jizzlobber
Member
Or they can set their gfx card to 60hz whilst they wait for a fix.
People keep "forgetting" that.
People keep "forgetting" that.
Dont play the victim please. There's been 6 pages of "workarounds" and we were trying to understand if there was a way to go around UWP and set the refresh rate for this game (and this game only) to avoid having to do a manipulation everytime we start/stop the game. No one is bashing you for giving a solution that has been given several times over the course of the thread, I facepalmed because we took long to understand the difference between global and specific configuration.
They dont, UWP is just blocking them from having an acceptable workaround until patch releases.
Which needs to go through certification from MS, because UWP
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