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RUMOR: NX more powerful than PS4, Splatoon/Mario Maker ports in development

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Pinky

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I'd make the box more crimson like this:

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And obviously we'd need to consider the actual name. I doubt it's just Nintendo. :p

Looking at that mockup, I'd be perfectly fine if they just called it Nintendo. Start fresh, start new. A total reset. The name is iconic.

And...

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:p
 
Is this a silly question, will it have Blu-Ray?

Was WiiU something inbetween?

I know they don't like paying the license for DVD or Blu-Ray playback.
Wii U's discs were a proprietary format. Essentially blurays but they didn't need to pay for licensing fees.
It's a bit smaller, but still a lot bigger than a DVD.
also smooth discs
 

mavo

Banned
Yes, but xbox has and still we see that ps4 is blowing MS away.

This is a good example of a really important match that is playing now:

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Every match thats played, it's always playstation, also at the commercial breaks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9RbxcA0sH8

Same with this video, mostly doesn't have allot to do about the game, but mainstream loves this.


What about MS, Nintendo, they have almost nothing.


So i really hope nintendo bring again some cool commercials again. They need to create the hype like they did on wii, but more like sony does.

This was so cool

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also, hello gaf :·
 

Aostia

El Capitan Todd
Glad you did it and you followed all the necessary steps by verifying. Ignore those comments. If they don't like leaks, they shouldn't be in this thread.


Absolutely this.
I dont get how users can question an evident and official mods decision like this that authorized the topic itself after a mod check.
 

un1que

Member
I hope it does release worldwide before chrimbo. Nothing better than opening a brand new console on Christmas Day. Especially a Nintendo one (apart from wii u. The update took me to Boxing Day and the launch games were crap)
 

jelly

Member
The WiiU was blurays, it just didn't play bluray movies. This will probably be the same unless they shift to cartridges/gamecards for the console.

I'm pretty sure Nintendo used a Blu-Ray formatted alternative to avoid having to pay Sony and the rest of the consortium for royalties. That's why you couldn't watch Blu-Ray movies I believe.

Hmm, doesn't seem like it has the same capacity.

The Wii U Optical Disc (WUP-006) is the physical game medium for the Wii U, with a capacity of 25 GB. The Wii U system is backward compatible with Wii Optical Discs, but not backward compatible with Nintendo GameCube game discs.[13] The optical discs used for the Wii U differ in appearance from most other optical discs in that they have soft, rounded edges.[14]
 

Malus

Member
Glad you did it and you followed all the necessary steps by verifying. Ignore those comments. If they don't like leaks, they shouldn't be in this thread.

It's just the usual Internet Gauntlet of Skepticism. No insider shall be spared, but if they get a few right their word shall be treated as law.

Unless they get something wrong again, which means back into the Gauntlet you go.

I upped the red's saturation by 30%, looks better I think.

NX's boxes need to be 30% more saturated than PS4 to represent the difference in hardware :p
 
Why would it fail?

Why wouldn't it?
Do you expect it to be cheaper than PS4 and XB1 when it releases?
Have more games?
VR?

It's releasing in the middle of a console cycle. Both will be about $100 less than a NX and already have giant libraries of games, for cheap too. Do you think the limited and late 3rd party ports coming at full price is going to help? The slightly better hardware? You think 3rd parties are all going to flock to Nintendo just because (according to rumors) it has better specs?

If they want to get anyone else besides Nintendo fans, they will fail. VR (whether it finds huge success or not) will be on the tips of the tongues of gamers and the casual audience alike this holiday season.

Releasing NX in 2016 it will be dead on arrival. 2017 is better since they can grab more attention but ultimately it will still fail because Nintendo will fail to read the market (again).
 

Meesh

Member
Home console first in the west, Japan later.
Handheld in Japan first, west later.

I could easily see it play out like that.
Yeah maybe, but I'd really like to have choice outta the starting gate with no separate launches. Just 1 straight up launch party with both hardware available. To be honest it would kinda irk me if it plays out how your suggesting it. *whines like a baby* lol
 

JP

Member
The "more powerful than a PS4" claim is ludicrous, for nintendo's sake it really must be approaching a level that is three years more powerful than the PS4. It would have to be for me to be interested from now on as I'm not sure that Nintendo want to make console for me anymore. It's been that way since the wonderful Gamecube.
 

MK_768

Member
Why wouldn't it?
Do you expect it to be cheaper than PS4 and XB1 when it releases?
Have more games?
VR?

It's releasing in the middle of a console cycle. Both will be about $100 less than a NX and already have giant libraries of games, for cheap too. Do you think the limited and late 3rd party ports coming at full price is going to help? The slightly better hardware? You think 3rd parties are all going to flock to Nintendo just because (according to rumors) it has better specs?

If they want to get anyone else besides Nintendo fans, they will fail. VR (whether it finds huge success or not) will be on the tips of the tongues of gamers and the casual audience alike this holiday season.

Releasing NX in 2016 it will be dead on arrival. 2017 is better since they can grab more attention but ultimately it will still fail because Nintendo will fail to read the market (again).

I couldn't help but laugh at this. I'm glad you know the future lol
 

Malus

Member
I love it.

Sorry for the crap quality, it's a very old webcam and I don't own a phone.

I switched out cases with Mario Kart 8 because Wonderful 101 just looks so much better in red than blue. It would be perfect if the Wii U trim wasn't blue.


I really hope they do go red for NX.

Still the best box art on Wii U to date.
 

Schnozberry

Member
Why wouldn't it?
Do you expect it to be cheaper than PS4 and XB1 when it releases?
Have more games?
VR?

It's releasing in the middle of a console cycle. Both will be about $100 less than a NX and already have giant libraries of games, for cheap too. Do you think the limited and late 3rd party ports coming at full price is going to help? The slightly better hardware? You think 3rd parties are all going to flock to Nintendo just because (according to rumors) it has better specs?

If they want to get anyone else besides Nintendo fans, they will fail. VR (whether it finds huge success or not) will be on the tips of the tongues of gamers and the casual audience alike this holiday season.

Releasing NX in 2016 it will be dead on arrival. 2017 is better since they can grab more attention but ultimately it will still fail because Nintendo will fail to read the market (again).

You should find a way to bottle your solipsism and sell it.
 

prag16

Banned
Hmm, doesn't seem like it has the same capacity.

The Wii U Optical Disc (WUP-006) is the physical game medium for the Wii U, with a capacity of 25 GB. The Wii U system is backward compatible with Wii Optical Discs, but not backward compatible with Nintendo GameCube game discs.[13] The optical discs used for the Wii U differ in appearance from most other optical discs in that they have soft, rounded edges.[14]

25 GB is the same capacity as a single layer bluray disc. Not sure if they have any games larger than that; if not there may be no dual layer version.
 

Daft Punk

Banned
I couldn't help but laugh at this. I'm glad you know the future lol

Can you refute what he is saying though instead of being snarky? He brings up several good points especially that Nintendo is trying to be disruptive by releasing it in the middle of a generation and has a realistic chance of backfiring. While I'm not calling Nintendoom, I'd be a fool to assume Nintendo is somehow going to pull a rabbit out of their ass and be back in the thick of things.
 
I thought the consensus was that Nintendo would probably never have proper 3rd party support again.

If that were the case there would be no point in Nintendo ever releasing another console again. Nintendo is ALWAYS trying to get 3rd party support. The only time when this wasn't the case was when it was clear the Wii U would be prematurely phased out, and they focused on making sure at the least it didn't have a last year like the Wii.

People who honestly believe this...well, there's no way a console can survive on only 1st party games. Even if every game was a hit, Nintendo simply couldn't match the numbers and amount of output of dozens of other devs
 
It's a pity a multinational consumer electronics corporation with enormous resources and vast experience at its disposal can't somehow tap into this "common sense" you're apparently blessed with.

Yeah it really is too bad for them.
But they need to make that fiscal earnings report, so for better or worse, I guess we will see it in 2016.
 

The_Lump

Banned
Can you refute what he is saying though instead of being snarky? He brings up several good points especially that Nintendo is trying to be disruptive by releasing it in the middle of a generation and has a realistic chance of backfiring. While I'm not calling Nintendoom, I'd be a fool to assume Nintendo is somehow going to pull a rabbit out of their ass and be back in the thick of things.

He's basically saying "if they do X, they will fail. If to avoid this by doing Y instead, they will still fail because Nintendo"

There is little room left for discussion.
 

Nanashrew

Banned
25 GB is the same capacity as a single layer bluray disc. Not sure if they have any games larger than that; if not there may be no dual layer version.

Probably not. I do remember Monolith Soft saying that XCX was almost a 2 disc set but they managed to fit everything on a 25GB disc with optional downloads to speed up loading times.
 

maxcriden

Member
The common theory is a shared library between all their NX devices and more frequent hardware iterations. Kinds of like apples model with iPhone and iPad.

You know what? I don't care anymore. I posted some info I heard and some people shat on me for it or accused me of writing fan fiction. I tried to do people a favour by sharing some interesting info and entice discussion.

If people are going to take every post I say as a rumor or leak or fact about Nintendo, that's their problem. They were warned I was just delivering second hand info, they were rumors and I'm not an insider.

My source said noticeably better, but that's vague and no specs were given so I'm speculating like you guys. Just forget it was even me posting that info.

Was does officially verified mean?

He brought the information to specific mods who vetted that the people who supplied said information are likely to know what they are talking about within the industry. It does not guarantee 100% accuracy but it offers some legitimcy

10K was verified. Unfortunately another mod who was not apart of the process closed the other thread without knowing he was verified

10k, I sincerely hope my posts asking if you were verified are not part of what you're responding to there. My intent was not to call your veracity into question. I just wanted a better understanding of whether any mod came forward and said "hey, this guy is verified," as has happened in the past. That's why I was also wondering what people were referring to in regards to mention of some mod comments in this thread, and asked as such, but didn't get any answer that I saw at least (I'm on mobile so I very well may have missed it). The bottom line is, I truly appreciate you coming forward with this info, and I simply wanted to know whether the mods here had had the opportunity to vet not you, since I know you as an excellent member of the community and a great poster, but rather your sources themselves. In the case of the Trev leak I believe his sources were formally verified, and we know that leak ended up being accurate, so I simply was wondering if your own sources had been verified as well. I've asked this a few times ITT not to create any consternation, it simply because I hadn't seen any answer to my question as of yet. All I can say is, if I did offend you, you have my sincere apologies.

(oh, one other thing--you've been doing a great job IMO of delineating your own thoughts (like in the specs post you made a little while ago, I think you were very clear these were your thoughts and not fact) vs. insider info you have, and I think that practice alone is all that anyone can reasonably ask of you in terms of helping people to understand what's your speculation vs. further insider info, so thank you for that.)

I know we used to ask "what will be the difference between Zelda U and Zelda NX?"

We thought maybe the graphics would be similar like TP was from GameCube to Wii, but since the NX is more powerful than the PS4 it's going to be a pretty nice difference! No wonder Nintendo is waiting until the reveal of the NX to show Zelda U/NX, because all they will do is show Zelda NX and talk about how great it looks.

I totally agree. It's going to be gorgeous and they'll be eager to show it off.
 

orioto

Good Art™
I don't think they'll do that to Wii U owners (making it horrible to play). They'll probably up the res and fps.

Yet an ambitious open world Zelda title dev with more than 2 teraflop in mind.. That's precisely the kind of thing that can turn things for Nintendo.
 

tr1p1ex

Member
Why wouldn't it?
Do you expect it to be cheaper than PS4 and XB1 when it releases?
Have more games?
VR?

It's releasing in the middle of a console cycle. Both will be about $100 less than a NX and already have giant libraries of games, for cheap too. Do you think the limited and late 3rd party ports coming at full price is going to help? The slightly better hardware? You think 3rd parties are all going to flock to Nintendo just because (according to rumors) it has better specs?

If they want to get anyone else besides Nintendo fans, they will fail. VR (whether it finds huge success or not) will be on the tips of the tongues of gamers and the casual audience alike this holiday season.

Releasing NX in 2016 it will be dead on arrival. 2017 is better since they can grab more attention but ultimately it will still fail because Nintendo will fail to read the market (again).

I agree with everything except your conclusion.

I think everything you say leads to only 1 conclusion. Nintendo isn't going to make a copycat box. They are going to do their own thing. It ultimately won't matter when they launch whether that turns out to be 2016 or 2017.

They are going to live and die by how big of a hit the NX is.

The NX represents their latest swing at the fences. They swung and missed and struck out with the Wii U. They hit it out of the park with the Wii. Nintendo is approaching the batter's box yet again.
 

MK_768

Member
Can you refute what he is saying though instead of being snarky? He brings up several good points especially that Nintendo is trying to be disruptive by releasing it in the middle of a generation and has a realistic chance of backfiring. While I'm not calling Nintendoom, I'd be a fool to assume Nintendo is somehow going to pull a rabbit out of their ass and be back in the thick of things.

His points are fine. His arrogance can shove it. You can debate and bring up those fair points but once you start acting like a know-it-all you don't deserve to be taken seriously.

Nobody is seriously doubting the tough road Nintendo has ahead of itself. If they are...they are delusional.

Yes, you'd be a fool to assume Nintendo is gonna succeed, but you are a fool to assume otherwise. You say Wii U, I say Wii. This is the video game industry where the tides turn quickly.

I mean we don't even know what this system is, what it costs, what it looks like, what games are coming, and what services it will have. To say it will succeed or fail is stupid at best.
 
He's basically saying "if they do X, they will fail. If to avoid this they do Y instead, they will still fail because Nintendo"

There is little room left for discussion.

Bullshit. I elaborated on the facts that actually exist. Read my post again.
There are real issues there that Nintendo already has.
The competition having more games plus being cheaper alone will be a huge struggle for NIntendo.
 
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