Koch has been SE's European distributor for an eternity.
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NISA to no longer publish Atlus games in Europe, Atlus not distributing NISA in US
- Thread starter JehutyRunner
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Koch has been SE's European distributor for an eternity.
Hot Coldman
Banned
I think they need to stop trying to find retail publishers for their games. Especially if they're just going to piss about with anyone who does want to publish their games.
Sumio Mondo
Member
Still remember loads of people about the Atlus buyout being like "this will be great news for people in Europe, since it will mean that SEGA will publish all of Atlus's games in Europe instead of how things are nowadays. Synergy, bro" - Can't exactly say I shared that optimism at the time.
...I think the crow has been eaten, shat out and eaten over again like five times over by now.
EDIT: Guess the SEGA manager being all "we need to be more like Atlus" mantra rubbed off?
Mass_Pincup
Banned
Until they drove them away because of unknown reasons.
JustAnotherOtaku
Member
#FuckAtlus
dakkumauji
Member
NISA is localizing and releasing Grand Kingdom in the West
Atlus is distributing it as with a lot of past NISA games
rip europe and i guess this is a boon for Koei Tecmo since they will probably get to be NISA's distributors again
Ohh got that all backwards. Still didn't know Atlus was acting distributor for NISA. Thought they had that on lockdown.
Just the anime NISA totally managed "themselves"?
ShogunDarius
Member
both
Andrefpvs
Member
Oh yeah, enjoy the great discount price of 0.00 for Fucking Nothing.
Magicpaint
Member
Wow, this is terrible news. It was great getting the likes of PQ on time.
Audioboxer
Member
Now let's see if they region lock Persona 5 for a right good lol.
I'll buy a Japanese PS4 and import.... After sending them a bag of my greying ass hair with a side serving of my tears.
don't send ass hairs to pubs
J
Jotamide
Unconfirmed Member
They both deserve it. However, as a fellow European Atlus "fan", I feel like Stockholm syndrome would be the best way to describe my relationship with Atlus.
Best case scenario: BNGI pick up the distribution in Europe. They seem to be the most consistent Japanese developer to release games in Europe, and they have a fairly good localization team. They even dsitributed The Witcher 3 in PAL, so they have experience of releasing big games, something NIS don't have.
edit: Well, of course it's best for Atlus to find a local distributor like Koch, but they seem to only trust Japan rooted companies.
edit: Well, of course it's best for Atlus to find a local distributor like Koch, but they seem to only trust Japan rooted companies.
Was thinking about them as well but then I remembered that Bandai has many games from their own stables popping out all the time.
Delusibeta
Banned
Bamco? Actually, not a bad shout, but I do expect that AtluSega will want to keep things in-house (and subsequently release nothing on consoles in Europe for the foreseeable future).
ShogunDarius
Member
I think Rice Digital may be in with a shot with some of the games
King Gilga
Member
lol, just lol.
Thanks for reminding of why I've never bought an Atlus game since then, I'd actually completely forgotten.
I remember driving past their office all the time with their big sonic logo.
Either they took that logo down, or sega is just so irrelevant inside my head that I don't even care to look anymore, because I don't remember seeing it for years now.
Thanks for reminding of why I've never bought an Atlus game since then, I'd actually completely forgotten.
I remember driving past their office all the time with their big sonic logo.
Either they took that logo down, or sega is just so irrelevant inside my head that I don't even care to look anymore, because I don't remember seeing it for years now.
It's still there, it's pretty much the most notable thing about the building outside of the Walkmann board.
That's too much evil to handle.
So NISA would publish and Atlus would just do the actual act of getting the games to retailers (distribution)? Even the ones that say NISA (such as Disgea 5 that I saw in Best Buy)?
formasymphonic
Member
The only thing that made that (and the EU delay) not complete shit, was that it meant they let us have dual audio and subs. Fast forward to P4AU and that was gone from the game except actual fight sfx.
So the options were either region lock and delay / no lock and removed features. I was always secretly optimistic that things might get better with the SEGA purchase but doubt it. Not sure which I would prefer for P5 because both are a farce.
that's pretty much the gist of it, yeah.
sometimes koei tecmo would handle things. they did witch and the hundred knight for ps4 earlier this year.
R_thanatos
Member
Considering everything was in the game and working and it's just index that were d**ks about it, maybe , just maybe as publishers they should have done something to help the damn game to not launch in this state.
Acting like this was the only way , when P4A is THE ONLY region LOCKED PS3 GAME , i can't help but think that everyone involved messed up and i won't escuse them for it.
You can't sell me "it was the only way" when it's the only game in the entire library that acts like it.
And that's not even taking into account the god awefull way we , EU players were treated THE WHOLE TIME
NEVER AGAIN
i will not forget ,
i will not forgive
Spieler Eins
Member
And that goes twice to the out-of-touch dinosaurs at Nintendo. Region locking in 2016, what is this shit.
I see, how much trouble will this cause for NISA? I love getting their stuff from BB (and now Amazon) where it comes for 20% off courtesy of GCU.
Actually there are two region locked ps3 games. But no one cares about Joysound Dive anyway.
It really depends on how quickly they're able to ink a distro deal. K-T would be the most obvious candidate due to their past together and NISA putting together LEs for their games like the Atelier series, but they're not the only fish in the sea.
nisa will probably just make the transition to koei tecmo fully. best buy and amazon still sell things from koei tecmo.
judging by atlus's sale sheet, koei tecmo was probably already distributing psycho-pass for them too.
mrmickfran
Member
That Nintendo comment was a mistake.
What do you guys think would've happened if Square bought Atlus instead of SEGA?
What do you guys think would've happened if Square bought Atlus instead of SEGA?
Black Republican
Member
what was the reason for region locking P4A?
LifeBrandRobot
Member
That'd be worse. SE sets their expectations for games way too high. Atlus games are loved but aren't block busters. Better SEGA since they can actually learn from Atlus (when it comes to efficient localization).
NA Version of P4A was released 2 weeks after the Japan release. Index was worried about reverse-importing by Japanese customers since games are much cheaper in the US and the game featured Dual-Audio and JP/Eng Text. So they decided to region-lock it.
In terms of releasing games in Europe, I am pretty certain that Square Enix Europe would publish Atlus titles here, if Square decided to bring an Atlus title to the West. Which was the last Square Enix title that had a long delay between its NA and EU release?
After seeing them put together an SNES-era RPG homage, a cutesy FF spinoff and sequels to Star Ocean and, of all the goddamn things, Nier, I'm not sure that Squenix really falls into the trap anymore of having too high of expectations. If anything, they're embracing B-tier on console more than they have in a long time.
formasymphonic
Member
Basically, fears of reverse importing. They especially feared it because of the dual audio and the PS3 being region free. The whole thing was a farce, particularly for those who live in EU
-as usual-
There are quite a few other games that ship with DA, or have a language pack so Atlus had options. They just chose the shittiest ones they could.
APZonerunner
Member
SE and Koch have an outright arrangement; at Gamescom, for instance, SE has its own booth in the public area, but in the business area they share with Koch. Bandai Namco has also published a bunch of SE stuff in further flung European territories in recent memory.
LifeBrandRobot
Member
They also have a terrible habit of ignoring certain platforms and localizations of even their own games is never guaranteed. SE would never have localized something like P4: DAN.
I hope to god that this will not ring in a digital-only policy for ~95% of Atlus's output in Europe. Which would still be preferable to the games not releasing at all, but it would make them effectively nonexisting to me regardless.
I'm not at all hopeful that this could actually mean something good. If it does turn out to be a non-problem, I'll be happy, but I have no reason whatsoever to believe so considering Atlus's usual "relationship" with European customers and Sega Europe's downfall.
Fuck Atlus, and fuck Sega.
I'm not at all hopeful that this could actually mean something good. If it does turn out to be a non-problem, I'll be happy, but I have no reason whatsoever to believe so considering Atlus's usual "relationship" with European customers and Sega Europe's downfall.
Fuck Atlus, and fuck Sega.
And please, make me take this back in the future by actually getting your shit to European customers. I really, really want to take that back. Pretty please?