Dark Cloud
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I disagree. I think they just didn't care to do it, but it's going to happen.
There's no rule a console, if it's event a full console, has to release in the holiday. I don't see what's to be skeptical about.
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NX will launch in March 2017 globally, won't be at E3 (focusing on Zelda instead)
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There's no rule a console, if it's event a full console, has to release in the holiday. I don't see what's to be skeptical about.
If only because console launches used to be intentionally delayed between regions. If they hadn't been, we would have had several console launches outside of the 4th quarter.
Pokemon XY sold 14.7 million copies and Pokemon ORAS sold 11.8 million. Even if Pokemon Sun/Moon sells half of that, it would probably be significantly more than any other title they push could have pushed out this year, including Zelda Wii U/NX.
3DS has a good lineup for the rest of the year, and they could probably coast on it. For Wii U, I hope you like Splatfests.
Final Verdict
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So I like totally bought a Wii U Christmas of 2014 so that I could play Zelda when it came out the next holiday in 2015.....then it got delayed to "2016", and now it is potentially getting delayed to 2017?
.....sighs....
:'(
At least I got splatoon
.....sighs....
:'(
At least I got splatoon
As a Paper Mario fan, I understand where you're coming from.
The moral of the story: instead of pointing and laughing at the FFVersusXIII fans, we should've used it as a cautionary tale. Don't by systems for games that are infamous for being delayed.
Not "potentially." The delay is official.
Astral Dog
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to think that Splatoon was such a success..
One step further: don't buy systems for games that aren't already out.
I don't think it's that big of a leap. Just going off Nintendo's track record, since last time a Zelda was cross platform we got comparable hardware. As far as rumors go I've lived through most "Nintendo will be the awesomest" rumors and found most of them to be very untrue, so I'm wary on trusting these new ones I guess.
I mean Square would consider it for NX instead of Wii U because they're expecting(or at least hoping) that the NX will end up with a better install base, hence more sales. Not saying it will but it would make sense from a publisher's perspective. Might as well start fresh instead of dive into a "poisoned well".
You're right, there's no evidence of anything. I would love to be wrong but what I'm expecting is what I think Nintendo would do. Probably lower expectations than most but I don't see much concrete evidence for better hardware or any of those other rumors either. Here's hoping that either way, we get something good.
airmangataosenai
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How the fuck is Nintendo still so unprepared? They had basically nothing new to show last E3 so most of us assumed they were ramping up Nx support. They never fail to disappoint and miss already lowered expectations.
An overclocked Wii U is pretty one of only two ways it would end up like that (the other being that the console is a PSTV-style settop box with a mobile SoC for $150 or less), and an overclocked Wii U would have backwards compatibility. Thus, it wouldn't make sense to make it exclusive to NX, especially if it's a port of the 3DS version. My point is that using it as evidence of anything beyond "NX is not the Wii U" is a huge leap, even though that happened with TP. One game is not a trend, much like Wii being an overclocked GameCube should not be considered a trend.
And yes, those are the only two ways that it could be another Wii-style leap. Anything else requires them to actively decide to make a weak console to the point of making a custom GPU to do so. There is the slight possibility that they would use something like Oland as the GPU and end up with something half as powerful as Xbone (and thus too weak to get ports), but that would still be a much, much larger jump than GCN->Wii. Contrary to how it has seemed, Nintendo has never intentionally set out to make a weak console. Both Wii and Wii U had reasoning behind their specs.
dragonflys545
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I'm a little too hyped for Zelda!
Imagine they change his character model lol.
brainchild
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Do we have a hi-res version or did you print out the one posted on gaf?I'm a little too hyped for Zelda!
StrapOnFetus
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From the translated Q&A questions, it seems like they're ensuring a full pipeline of products instead of front-loading the launch and leaving yet another drought.
And it's a tad premature to say they're unprepared until we see the actual results of starving the Wii U of content in its final year.
A few months wouldn't change that much, though. It's a Nintendo console and I doubt third party support will climb up much this go around(if the Wii couldn't do it, I doubt the unlikely success of the NX can).
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I'm not optimistic about the NX's third party support, but I'd argue that the Wii's popularity could only help it so much. One problem with the Wii was that its hardware was not on the same level as the PS360 and thus not easy to port to. If you wanted to build a Wii game, you had to build a separate version. Additionally, the Wii's standard controller had fewer buttons than the other controllers of that generation; using a Wiimote and nunchuk, you were short two triggers, one analog stick (which could potentially be replaced with the IR cursor if it's a shooter), and two face buttons (counting A and B but excluding 1 and 2 because of their placement).
Who knows how NX will turn out, but I think it's pretty clear why a lot of the big games didn't end up on Wii. (It is also important to not forget that Wii did get a fair number of third party games, some exclusive and some ports, that were quite good and sold decently.) Of course, the problem that NX will certainly share with the Wii is the Nintendo audience historically not being the friendliest towards your average (perhaps mostly Western) third party game. I'm curious if, and how, this problem is overcome.
Games usually last hours, so many people would just quit when they start to lose. Like if you're on the last 5 turns and you're behind a ton you're just gonna quit. imho, MP is a lot better as a local multiplayer game than online. That said it would still be nice just to be able to play with friends over the internet, but Nintendo probably wont do it cause of quitters.
Big Green Anus
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Is this just a guess? I wish this is true.
Even if there are indeed some NX ports in the works, I doubt Nintendo will allow anybody to mention that before the official NX reveal. You should know Nintendo by now. Remember the whole saga with the COD ports announcements for Wii U.
Bitch Pudding
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I suppose they are still focussing entirely on NX launch right now. As the NX concept itself will most likely not be shown before Q3 2016, they can't show any NX games during E3.
And yes, WiiU is dead, but that should have been clear the very second Nintendo announced NX one year ago. No need to be surprised.
I'm a little too hyped for Zelda!
Someone should Photoshop a tree in that mirror effect...
Panajev2001a
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What about digital downloads? Only work if you purchase your own external HDD?
[...] Yes the handheld will be weaker, but it'll be more or less the same architecture as the home console.
Thanks to that, the teams wouldn't have to spend as much time to redundancy work. Meshes and rendering pipelines wouldn't need to be edited as heavily, saving time. Polygon budgets wouldn't need too much working around, etc. Arguably they've probably been doing this already for some time, like other devs, and more specifically have been fine-tuning the approach with Wii U and 3DS. But maybe this talk of theirs is also in relation to logistical aspects of studio development culture that isn't of interest to most gamers and that, honestly, I'm not privy to as I don't work at a gaming company myself (sadly).
Take an iOS game developer, give them an iPad Pro and an iPhone 5S. Same IDE, same compiler, same OS, same 3D API, same basic CPU and GPU arch, but asking them to develop a game that pushes both will almost be like asking them to make two different games.
Sure, there are some advantages to the shared pipeline, but it either tends to cater to a middle ground which does not treat either platform fairly or increase costs a lot close to making two different games than people would be comfortable with.
GodfatherX
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Maybe it's my extreme lack of sleep but for some reason I can't see this pic without seeing some menacing silhouette to in the brush strokes behind linkI'm a little too hyped for Zelda!
Yeah it's like people don't know Nintendo lol.
brainchild
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LOL
I wish the guy who made that fake leak would use his 3D printer to 'leak' the Zelda U/NX game disk, with that artwork printed on it.
Bitch Pudding
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Excellent.
Little Monser
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Nintendo releasing in March makes PERFECT sense
Trust the almighty lords at Slaytendo to make the best decisions in gaming ever
NX having its own reveal event means the SpotlighT will be just on it and not sharing itself with anything lesser of it.
Really intrigued with the NX
But will the hype last until then?
Trust the almighty lords at Slaytendo to make the best decisions in gaming ever
NX having its own reveal event means the SpotlighT will be just on it and not sharing itself with anything lesser of it.
Really intrigued with the NX
But will the hype last until then?
That's most likely him, very cool! Thanks!
Prisoner KSC2-303
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That's one interpretation. An equally plausible one would be that, had we not had staggered releases for some previous consoles, more would've been launched in multiple territories in the 4th quarter. It depends if you're assuming the later date or the earlier one would be the time that other territories would've synced up with.
Im guessing its not the games thats the problem here, Nintendo just wants both sony and microsoft to release their new systems first to protect their new concept, nintendo says and its really obvious thats why we dont have the clear picture of the nx is because of that, and by letting sony and microsoft go 1st it will be so hard for them to impliment that on their new console, so its after hollyday if the new consoles will be release then we we'll know what really is nintendo's cooking just wait dude and chill.
another guy that needs to chill, wait give it a chance, you guys dont have patience.
cyberheater
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Similar here. I got my launch WiiU for the same reason. Nearly 4 years of waiting.
I'm never buying another Nintendo console ever again. I've had it with this company.
Oh, so do you really want it spelled for you why that's wrong on so many levels? Or should I let you dream?
Ahh, to be young again...
Let him dream. He needs to learn the hard way.
You're mad at Nintendo because you bought a console for a game that didn't even exist? I don't get this.
...but it did exist.
At launch?
At least he didn't buy a PS3 at launch for The Last Guardian, imagine that!
Splatoon filled a long-desired need from Nintendo in a ton of areas:
- Console based Shooter
- New IP
- Heavy emphasis on online Play
- It still fit in that Nintendo idea of characters and saturated graphics
The fact that it simply wasn't Mario Paintball is honestly a miracle. But really, it's the shooter I thought they should've made FOR YEARS. Although, I'd like it if their merchandise wasn't 99.99999% in Japan for it.
Cheeseman Battitude
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I absolutely would not be surprised, but I doubt the look of the controller would be exactly like the patent. For example, I've seen a mock-up that puts the screen in the middle of the Pokken controller. Same concept but it looks miles better than the controller in the patent and leak.
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