For what it's worth...
February 2013 - 9 months before PS4 launch - Sony holds a PS4 press conference. Console is officially announced, the box is unveiled, the release date is given, specs announced, and software is shown off.
June 2016 - 9 months before NX launch - NINTENDO HAS NOTHING TO SAY OR SHOW
Again, this isn't a problem if they have, say, a bunch of Wii U games or 3DS games to show off at E3 in the meantime. But they're replacing NX news with a whole bunch of nothing. No one benefits here.
This is why you dont pull support from existing consoles until after you launch the new ones. Nintendo's got nothing this year and they know it.
Sony revealed a controller and some games in February when the console wouldn't launch until November and it worked out for them. Nintendo seems extremely unprepared. NX will probably end up worse than Wii U in terms of software support at launch -- and without the third party support. This is a really bad move, but also signals that maybe they're not confident in their new product.
They said "playable" so people thought there'd be a Direct showing Wii U game and 3DS games.I thought we already knew Zelda would be the only thing there this year?
Zelda is life.Everything is Zelda.
For what it's worth...
February 2013 - 9 months before PS4 launch - Sony holds a PS4 press conference. Console is officially announced, the box is unveiled, the release date is given, specs announced, and software is shown off.
June 2016 - 9 months before NX launch - NINTENDO HAS NOTHING TO SAY OR SHOW
Vita port confirmed, betrayalton.Zelda is life.
For what it's worth...
February 2013 - 9 months before PS4 launch - Sony holds a PS4 press conference. Console is officially announced, the box is unveiled, the release date is given, specs announced, and software is shown off.
June 2016 - 9 months before NX launch - NINTENDO HAS NOTHING TO SAY OR SHOW
Again, this isn't a problem if they have, say, a bunch of Wii U games or 3DS games to show off at E3 in the meantime. But they're replacing NX news with a whole bunch of nothing. No one benefits here.
The announcement will be at the end of the year, for some reason, the question is if they are going to focus on launch lineup only and show the rest next E3,or a huge blownout in NovemberThis is why you dont pull support from existing consoles until after you launch the new ones. Nintendo's got nothing this year and they know it.
Ohhhhh. Damn that sucks for those people that were hoping lol.They said "playable" so people thought there'd be a Direct showing Wii U game and 3DS games.
I thought we already knew Zelda would be the only thing there this year?
I have no doubt that the NX will receive a lot of attention but E3 is a gathering of gamers from all walks of life where some of them can stumble upon NX news and stuff and become interested in them whereas an NX specific event will be largely an echo chamber for the Nintendo faithful and Nintendo has to work harder to attract those on the outside. My reasoning for the 'echo chamber' statement is that despite the fact that the sales of the WiiU is abyssal, a good number of their games have extremely high attach rates which tells me that the current Nintendo fanbase is very dedicated.That's reasonable.
Also:
Official PS4 reveal video on youtube (february 21, 2013) has 2.5 MILLION views: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiNGZMx2vhY
Official sony E3 press conference on youtube (June 10, 2013) has 2.3 MILLION views: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmoZAPDV3ew
Yes, I'm aware there were other avenues to watch each of these, but this is the only metric easily available to me. PS4 reveal had more views than their entire E3, despite the reveal not being at E3. I know this doesn't paint the WHOLE picture, but it's important to know that the NX reveal later will still get a *LOT* of views and coverage, probably on a slow week, no less.
Speaking from the perspective of someone who's attended every E3 as media since 2011, except for 2014... E3 is a gigantic, stressful, expensive pain in the ass and I very much wish it didn't exist in its current form.
You think Activision, EA, and Disney not having booths and Nintendo announcing probably zero games will be made up for by volume from others? All four of those publishers used to have pretty huge presences at E3, and now it seems like it's going to be Nintendo with Zelda and that's it.
This is why you dont pull support from existing consoles until after you launch the new ones. Nintendo's got nothing this year and they know it.
Well Nintendo is in a situation where they need to start instilling confided to the public about their new console. They are becoming increasingly irrelevant in the console space. They should be trying to hype up NX and assure it'll have 3rd party support. This does nothing to inspire confidence in the new platform
LegenofLex said:If you continue to support the existing consoles, you can't support the new ones as well as you should.
They're either hugely overestimating Zelda or something bad happened with NX or current events like Neo that made them have to switch things up.
The sheer volume of information that's being ousted from E3 to be showcased at other events this year isn't enough? We have two major publishers who are seriously reducing their E3 presence this year, and many other staple publishers who are also bowing out.
Did you forget how much hyper came from just Sony's alone? It drowned out almost everything from other publishers.
I highly doubt this is a reaction to a revision of a console.They're either hugely overestimating Zelda or something bad happened with NX or current events like Neo that made them have to switch things up.
I'm as excited for the new Zelda as the next guy, but surely even the most diehard fan wants more than a single game demoed at a 3 day event. But hey, maybe they have something else up their sleeve.
You're making my point for me.
Why the hell should other publishers even bother with E3 anymore? E3 is basically just a week-long commercial for PlayStation 4 at this point.
Sony's "volume" didn't drown out E3. Sony announced about as many things as they always announce. The difference is that Sony is the loudest voice, and so all the volume from other people doesn't matter for shit.
Remember, I said "volume," not "noise."
So, it's not that E3 is losing importance in general, but that Sony's marketing team is too good at its job.
Why does everyone seem to hate zelda today?
E3 is losing importance... for everyone who is not Sony.
Rockstar skips E3 almost every year.
E3 is losing importance... for everyone who is not Sony.
Because they haven't seen it yet.Why does everyone seem to hate zelda today?
Why does everyone seem to hate zelda today?
The sheer volume of information that's being ousted from E3 to be showcased at other events this year isn't enough? We have two major publishers who are seriously reducing their E3 presence this year, and many other staple publishers who are also bowing out.
If you continue to support the existing consoles, you can't support the new ones as well as you should.
If anyone believes this I can frankly laugh.I think most people in this thread love Zelda. The problem isn't Zelda, it's that all Nintendo seems to have for the next year is Zelda.
You really can't believe that.I think most people in this thread love Zelda. The problem isn't Zelda, it's that all Nintendo seems to have for the next year is Zelda.
If anyone believes this I can frankly laugh.
You really can't believe that.
Why does everyone seem to hate zelda today?
Hahaha WTF are you doing N? Why even bother with E3 at this point, just keep your ball and stay the fuck home.
I'd be on suicide watch if I was a die-hard Nintendo fan though.
NoA needs to hurry up and update their profiles page with their new director of marketing
Oh, you should have specified you meant for Wii U.What am I going to have to buy on Wii U until Zelda releases?
(I meant all they have to show us, not all they have. Of course the NX is going to launch with a bunch of games.)
If anyone believes this I can frankly laugh.
You really can't believe that.
If anyone believes this I can frankly laugh.