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Romancing SaGa 2 now available in English for iOS/Android

EricB

Member
Regarding controller support:

I'm using a Horipad on ios and only the analog stick works. I can't use the buttons for anything which makes it pretty much pointless. Hopefully this gets patched up; I would have bought the Vita version (at twice the price), but the Vita does not exist.
 
I'm enjoying this a lot more now I'm familiarised with the control and battle setup (had a bit of trouble in my first encounter with those gels in the first dungeon). It's just much easier to swipe around in the bottom left corner of the screen and tap to confirm on the bottom right.

Real shame it isn't very well optimised. I heard reports of the Vita version suffering performance problems but I wasn't expecting minor framerate drops on my iPhone 5s (down from 30fps to ~25fps), which, by all accounts, should be able to blitz through this game without trouble.

My battery this morning dropped by 20% after an hour of play, which is also something that doesn't happen when I play other, more optimised games. Dragon Quest V, for example, would have taken 10% of my battery, and usually on a modern iPhone the battery drops at the same rate regardless of what you're doing. Oh well...
 

Teknoman

Member
First inheritance. Therese...RIP.

Do weapons suffer from being at 0, or with RS2, are they just reduced to using normal attack?
 

Ourobolus

Banned
Another small tip. Don't miss this door in the castle, it's easy to miss:




Inside is an NPC who will give you your first spell.
I was in there several times and they just say "call me if you need a Mage."

Is there a place to switch party members?
Edit: nvm just wasn't far enough along
 
Nice to see that there is some form of gamepad support... despite it being Janky

DRM pisses me off though

Cant play this game without a data connection? Fuck off
 
Preeetty gross. Those are PNGs, and the artifacts are all visible in-game. I don't think this game was made to be played on anything bigger than a 4" screen.

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Soooo, how awesome is this game? Pretty awesome? Same caliber as FF and DQ?

For me, the appeal of the franchise is how unpolished they are. Kawazu don't give a fuck and does weird shit.

This game is pretty rad though. Probably my favorite rpg battle system
 

FStubbs

Member
Doesn't seem to be available for my Galaxy S3. Available for my Note 4, though. Weird - the S3 should be plenty to run this game, but lol SE. The same company that lets me run DQ1 and 2 on my S3 but not my Note 4.
 
Preeetty gross. Those are PNGs, and the artifacts are all visible in-game. I don't think this game was made to be played on anything bigger than a 4" screen.

Sadly I've been playing this on my iPhone 5s (1136 x 640 resolution) which has a 4" display, and the artifacts are very much visible even when holding my phone at a reasonable distance.

The quality of the assets is also pretty inconsistent too - I've noticed some look upscaled, others don't, but it never really looks "pixel perfect" in general.

Is anyone else getting the odd stuttering/frame skip when wondering around certain locations as well? The experience I'm getting is reminiscent of Final Fantasy IV Advance...
 

Link1110

Member
I love Akitoshi Kawazu's overly direct writing style

Bar Guy: Our town is protected by the brawlers, but these fiends are really worrying me.
Gerard: I am the emperor!
 

Vamphuntr

Member
So guys how do you recover LP in this one? Sleeping at the inn doesn't work T.T And Therese sucks big time how do I switch characters.
 
So guys how do you recover LP in this one? Sleeping at the inn doesn't work T.T And Therese sucks big time how do I switch characters.

You might have some LP-restoring potions in your storage room, later on you'll find a witch's cave where you can purchase them for 10,000 crown a pop. Otherwise, no, LP can't be recovered.

Unless the port changed things, I'm pretty sure the only way to ditch a character is for them to be LP killed. It's not a great system.
 

Vamphuntr

Member
You might have some LP-restoring potions in your storage room, later on you'll find a witch's cave where you can purchase them for 10,000 crown a pop. Otherwise, no, LP can't be recovered.

Unless the port changed things, I'm pretty sure the only way to ditch a character is for them to be LP killed. It's not a great system.

Thanks! Yeah I just found out about the LP recovery potion. Therese has to die for the greater good now.
 
Regarding controller support:

I'm using a Horipad on ios and only the analog stick works. I can't use the buttons for anything which makes it pretty much pointless. Hopefully this gets patched up; I would have bought the Vita version (at twice the price), but the Vita does not exist.

That is really annoying. Would love to play this on my Shield TV
 

Ourobolus

Banned
Thanks! Yeah I just found out about the LP recovery potion. Therese has to die for the greater good now.

I somehow kept her alive all through Gerard's scenario. On the third generation now.

If a non-main character gets LP killed, do they get inherited somehow?

Also, I missed out on getting Gerard Fireball apparently, is there any other way to get the MC to learn magic?
 
I somehow kept her alive all through Gerard's scenario. On the third generation now.

If a non-main character gets LP killed, do they get inherited somehow?

Also, I missed out on getting Gerard Fireball apparently, is there any other way to get the MC to learn magic?

Pick a mage a your MC?
 

MilkBeard

Member
I somehow kept her alive all through Gerard's scenario. On the third generation now.

If a non-main character gets LP killed, do they get inherited somehow?

Also, I missed out on getting Gerard Fireball apparently, is there any other way to get the MC to learn magic?
I've managed to keep Therese alive for a while and she has become quite good with a bow. The only problem is that her LP is down to three because she kept dying in the beginning.

Seeing the earlier version of the LP system is interesting. In later games you could switch out characters and recover LP at an inn.

This way is a bit more challenging, as LP is more precious, although it would be nice to be able to switch party members.
 

Ourobolus

Banned
I've managed to keep Therese alive for a while and she has become quite good with a bow. The only problem is that her LP is down to three because she kept dying in the beginning.

Seeing the earlier version of the LP system is interesting. In later games you could switch out characters and recover LP at an inn.

This way is a bit more challenging, as LP is more precious, although it would be nice to be able to switch party members.

Yeah, I got quite a few good techs with her (Stunner made a lot of bosses trivial, and Haphazard Arrow was great for random mobs). Ended up with her having 3 LP at the end of that scenario.
 

MilkBeard

Member
Yeah, I got quite a few good techs with her (Stunner made a lot of bosses trivial, and Haphazard Arrow was great for random mobs). Ended up with her having 3 LP at the end of that scenario.

Yeah, I've been abusing attacks like stunner and knee split to keep strong enemies from attacking.
 

Ourobolus

Banned
Really annoyed that I've got such shitty short swords though. Thankfully I have a stun tech, but my new short sword guy is pretty crappy otherwise.
 

Teknoman

Member
Ok so it seems like not only LP but WP works differently here? The weapons seem to share WP when of the same type, so does it even make sense to equip someone with multiples of the same type?

Also is there a way to replenish WP? I've been spoiled by Romancing SaGa PS2.

EDIT: I guess this is the OT then?
 

Ourobolus

Banned
Ok so it seems like not only LP but WP works differently here? The weapons seem to share WP when of the same type, so does it even make sense to equip someone with multiples of the same type?

Also is there a way to replenish WP? I've been spoiled by Romancing SaGa PS2.

EDIT: I guess this is the OT then?

WP, as far as I can tell (or SP) is just a pool of points you have to use techs. You can refresh them at an inn.
 
If the price wasn't enough to put me off, this bullshit certainly is.

I don't mind the price point much (I'd rather pay ~$20 upfront then have the game try to annoy me into spending a limitless amount of money over time as most mobile games are designed to do). But yep the need to be online every time you start it up is moronic. especially since a quick Google search suggests its already been cracked, so it's not like its superior to Googles version which at least works for a week or so offline.
 
You might have some LP-restoring potions in your storage room, later on you'll find a witch's cave where you can purchase them for 10,000 crown a pop. Otherwise, no, LP can't be recovered.

Unless the port changed things, I'm pretty sure the only way to ditch a character is for them to be LP killed. It's not a great system.

Where's the storage room? The place with the scale?
 

MilkBeard

Member
Ah so there really isnt a point in equipping multiples of the same weapon type.

I need a manual lol.
Yeah, as far as I can tell all weapons use SP, and all magic uses MP. And this game doesn't tell you when you level up your SP and MP like the later games. I found that out after checking from battles. Just using your spells and techs will increase your maximum points. In later games like SaGa Frontier it always tells you when they increase, just like HP.

I don't know what the benefit would be to equip multiples of the same type, unless it is a special weapon that has a unique property but I haven't come across any yet.

Where's the storage room? The place with the scale?

Yep, although I don't think there are any life point potions in there. There are a ton of balms and SP/MP potions though.
 

HeeHo

Member
Dude... It sucks only owning a Kindle tablet. I want this but the store selection always, always lets me down. Everything I want somehow manages to evade being available on the Kindle app/game store. They have FFIV, FFV, and FFVI, (only bought V, as I have played IV recently and played VI multiple times), but no Dragon Quest, no SaGa, no F2P Square Enix or even that Mistwalker game...
 
Yeah, as far as I can tell all weapons use SP, and all magic uses MP. And this game doesn't tell you when you level up your SP and MP like the later games. I found that out after checking from battles. Just using your spells and techs will increase your maximum points. In later games like SaGa Frontier it always tells you when they increase, just like HP.

I don't know what the benefit would be to equip multiples of the same type, unless it is a special weapon that has a unique property but I haven't come across any yet.



Yep, although I don't think there are any life point potions in there. There are a ton of balms and SP/MP potions though.

You can get to those chests? Something is blocking the way.
 

Ourobolus

Banned
How do I learn new formations? I read I had to get new guys, like the martial arts dude and the thief, but I don't see any new ones.
 
So there's been a few comments about bits of bad localization... how is it overall so far? Just minor things here and there, or pretty sloppy/buggy in general? I don't mind the $18 so much, but not for something slipshod...
 

MilkBeard

Member
So there's been a few comments about bits of bad localization... how is it overall so far? Just minor things here and there, or pretty sloppy/buggy in general? I don't mind the $18 so much, but not for something slipshod...
I would say, there was one small error in the intro, but it seems pretty solid for the most part. There is a strange format of talking in the game though, whenever your character addresses other characters in the castle. Other than that, I haven't noticed much else.
First rpg in ages to get me hunched over scrutinizing my next move because some of these battles require strategy even early on.

Yep, SaGa games can be pretty challenging. All of a sudden, you might run into an enemy that just wipes you out. So far, there hasn't been anything as crazy as when walking into a high level area accidentally in Final Fantasy II yet.

I would recommend progressing the bow for someone because of the multihit attack you will eventually get. Also, light ball is good for an attack-all spell. Also, Knee Split as a technique works really well to stop certain enemies from attacking.

As for your other post about the doppleganger, that's what I meant when I said 'watch out for those pesky chests' ;)
 
almost every SE gameon Android requires a connection check.

(also, for a while, they outright refused to run on rooted systems!)

No they don't.

Most of them are good for a while after a single check in now.

Their early releases had awful DRM that broke every time the kernel update but they dropped it a while ago and patched it out of some games (some of the Chaos rings games still have it and so don't work on ART).

Some of the Dragon Quest games did (cloud save only) but they patched it so it'd work offline (with checkin).

Square's DRM history on android is awful but it hasn't been checkin at every start up bad usually.
 

Vamphuntr

Member
So every skill you learn in one generation can be passed on to the next via the instructor? I guess it's to make up you lose characters permanently.
 
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