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Digital Foundry: Spec Analysis: Xbox Project Scorpio
- Thread starter Theorry
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Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
Fuck 4K. Let me play at 1080p with super graphics.
MilkyJoe
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Wishmaster92
Member
And this is interesting to some? At least It's not like that clickbait violence in games at e3 verge thread
Kölsch Bloot
Member
It's not about power, it's about games. And on that ground I'm still not feeling Microsoft one bit.
That's most likely what they'll get. 4K gaming is all buzz and fluff, a high point few games will nail consistently. Higher graphic settings at 1080p or even 1440p should be reachable.
How long would you like them to wait before posting the article?
OT: all hail Phil Spencer
PeskyToaster
Member
They could always build a box capable of 4K but there's a lot of other factors to consider. Most importantly price.
You already know the games Scorpio will be getting in the next years ? Cool.
NippleViking
Banned
All I want is 4-player splitscreen Halo 6 :'(
Crayon
Member
Good on MS for doing what they think they need to do. Sadly for them they don't have the games that I want to play.
I would have still bought a PS4 over the Xbox had the power gap been reversed because at the end of the day I go where the games I want to play are. The same reason I will buy Nintendo's new machine.
I would have still bought a PS4 over the Xbox had the power gap been reversed because at the end of the day I go where the games I want to play are. The same reason I will buy Nintendo's new machine.
Well, until there are actually some, you know, actual specifications rather than a bunch of performance numbers and a non-existent box.
Ein Bear
Member
This is very much my feelings on it as well. Just seems like a waste of resources IMO, the current consoles can barely hit 1080p, feel like all the performance 'gains' are just going to be spent hitting another barely achievable resolution rather than improving the games themselves.
Same for me, i'm fine with 1080p, pushing 4K and VR means being stuck with the graphics we have today but at higher resolutions, to me it's a shame
Leyasu
Banned
It's all clickbait no matter what. They say that details are thin on the ground yet proceed to do a "spec analysis" containing nothing but speculation.
I'm will be at the front of the queue for info...
This thread wasn't tilted: "why Sony is fkd"
I like this. And graphics aren't best part either, it's their commitment to compatibility.
Whats your real issue here ?
guybrushfreeman
Unconfirmed Member
Do they talk about the high quality pixels? Best pixels.
Leyasu
Banned
Grim_Reaper
Neo Member
This comes back to same old Xbox One launch. Vague details about a box 1.5 years down the line. There are so many factors involved its not just about 6tf and this just feels like they are trying to pull the wool over you eyes.
But until more info comes out its hard to tell as they really have to have a full plan in place not just a lets make bigger hardware than the competitor as that is not what I buy a console for.
But until more info comes out its hard to tell as they really have to have a full plan in place not just a lets make bigger hardware than the competitor as that is not what I buy a console for.
For people who don't understand teraflops and GB/s it's useful that they put it in to a real world context.
mugurumakensei
Member
Assuming DF was right about the 480 being used in PS4 neo, the clock rate can probably be bumped up to normal speeds if Sony wanted to do it. It's be 5.5 TF vs Scorpios 6TF. theyd have to ship out new dev kits for devs who wanted to use the extra juice but itd mitigate the gap quite a bit.
It's actually a very nicely written and interesting article including also some details/speculations not directly obvious from Microsoft's presentation. Of course, you might not be interested in such details specific to DF, but then it begs the question what are you even doing in this thread beside making a very bad first post?
InsaneTiger
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This is what I've been saying too, some people don't seem to grasp that idea and focus on Scorpio being the one, nothing more from Sony after the Neo. Neither console will ever be the most powerful for long.
It will always come back to the games you like on a particular console.
Are they doing that based on the bandwidth? I could see them perhaps adding some ram so that games can get a full 8GB to use
Straight Edge
Member
The system that comes out in a year and a half will be more powerful than the existing ones! I bet new systems in 2018 will be even more powerful!
KurtSloane
Banned
6 tf is the total of the system, including CPU.
It is not a 6TF GPU plus CPU, this is an important fact and is being ignored in the assumption of the spec by many.
If the PS4 Neo (which was reported to be subject to change by DF) is 4.4tf in the GPU plus whatever rating the CPU is, then difference might not be much at all.
I expect Neo spec to change like the PS4 did at a later stage, MS played all their cards, Sony can change the spec (like the rumoured by DF CPU upgrade).
Let's wait and see if the 30-40% does appear.
Also price (same as what hindered the PS3) and by PR is what killed the X1, not spec, as that was just an additional kick in the balls.
It is not a 6TF GPU plus CPU, this is an important fact and is being ignored in the assumption of the spec by many.
If the PS4 Neo (which was reported to be subject to change by DF) is 4.4tf in the GPU plus whatever rating the CPU is, then difference might not be much at all.
I expect Neo spec to change like the PS4 did at a later stage, MS played all their cards, Sony can change the spec (like the rumoured by DF CPU upgrade).
Let's wait and see if the 30-40% does appear.
Also price (same as what hindered the PS3) and by PR is what killed the X1, not spec, as that was just an additional kick in the balls.
MilkyJoe
Member
Exactly and to gain more customers they need to keep bringing quality games. It's a win for customers too.
Lovely Salsa
Banned
Why not release it as a new console?
So what if its the most powerful console? Its still limited by the original xbone
So what if its the most powerful console? Its still limited by the original xbone
Lifejumper
Member
Is ps4 neo cpu locked?
They made the clock speed as high as it´s possible without generating too much heat (& noise).
If they could just increase it, they would have been stupid not to do it in the first place....
I doubt there is anything they can change apart from a small percentage which changes nothing.
ninjablade
Banned
i'm praying neo changes the cpu to zen and gets delayed to 2017. i want to play everything at 60fps.
Deaf Spacker
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As I said in the other thread, is Scorpio 4K or bust or will they let game developers target full HD with melt your mind graphics?
LelouchZero
Member
I love hearing what digital foundry speculates.
800-850MHz with 3584-3840 cores sounds plausible.
I was wondering if Microsoft were going to go for a lower core count and higher clock-speed but that could probably consume more power.
800-850MHz with 3584-3840 cores sounds plausible.
I was wondering if Microsoft were going to go for a lower core count and higher clock-speed but that could probably consume more power.
Maximilian Kolbe
Member
Even Xbox One size case can't bump 300mhz clock speed senpai.
abracadaver
Member
By the time this comes out PC graphics cards will have at least 12 TFlops.
Still an exciting announcement. Games will look incredible.
Still an exciting announcement. Games will look incredible.