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LMAO!!
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Teens React to BAYONETTA 2
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LMAO!!
10/10
Not for self for futur: I've to raise my child with gamepad before I offer him a mobile phone.
Mithos
Member
Imagine the thread...Maybe it could rival/beat the Bayonetta 2 one.
Wouldn't it be more or less expected at this point?
truestatic
Member
It'd be so cool if all the great games from the Wii U that so deserve to be played got a second chance to reach a larger audience on a more successful console, but I'm worried that the majority of NX buyers will just be a subset of Wii U buyers.
How old are you
Mithos
Member
Expected that a Bayonetta 3 would be Nintendo exclusive or expected that people will still rage/etc. etc. et. al.?
;P ;P
I mean it is the best game this gen alongside with Bloodborne.
too old apparently.
Fuck, Bayo 1 and 2 are some of the best games ever made in general.
truestatic
Member
Never wanted to share a cool or terrible thing with a friend to see how they react to it? Taps into that same thing, even if we don't know any of these people.
Catalix
And on the sixth day the LORD David Bowie created man and woman in His image. And he saw that it was good. On the seventh day the LORD created videogames so that He might take the bloody day off for once.
Yeah, it's very encouraging how they all immediately rejected that pandering bullshit.
There is a third mode of play and that's going for platinum medals, which is the most rewarding and satisfying thing in video games. The guy in the first gif is playing the game casually (he says himself that he's button mashing) and the second is super-casual mode.
Go watch baseball or something
KLoWn
Member
What's the "lol" for?
It was definietly a weak year. Each year has a couple of good games but 2014 just had fewer of them. Just look at the GOTY threads for 2014 and 2015. Bayonetta won, yet it had less points than Rocket League which came fourth in 2015. The 2013 GOTY, TLoU, also won with way more points than Bayonetta.
I'm not saying Bayonetta 2 was a bad game (in fact the gameplay is very good).
I meant more the former, but both should be expected anyway. At this point, I'd think the brand is more associated with Nintendo than it is with SEGA, which is funny in a way.
Well TloU is a far more accessible game, in a more popular (story driven, cinematic adventure games) than Bayonetta, which is a "hardcore" character action game, i attribute the less points to that.
A really great puzzle or strategy game also would have difficulties against some big narrative focused game, for example.
Actually I'm watching Golf right now.
Not really. I mean yeah maybe if it's something actually interesting. But watching some kids I don't even know react to some video game?
Reminds me of that one South Park episode.
How do you explain Bloodborne though? It's harder than Bayonetta.
Edit: I guess I'll answer my own question, Bayonetta is even more niche. The fact that such a niche game won GOTY is actually pretty indicative that it was a weak year. If it had come out in the same year as games like Bloodborne, TLoU, or TW3 it'd have been eaten alive.
VendettaRed07
Member
As it should have
truestatic
Member
Really? That's an expectation? I'm sort of surprised. It didn't do especially well, did it? Is positive critical acclaim and a fervently interested niche audience sufficient reason to finance another losing proposition?
PS4 to Wii U sales comparisons, and the relatively limited breadth of appeal of stylish action to Souls-likes. The likes of Bayonetta is still pretty limited in appeal in spite of its superlative quality, whereas From has risen over the last gen and a half to become a juggernaut of hype and expectations.
KLoWn
Member
As someone who has completed all the Dark Souls games + Bloodborne, I thought Bayonetta was way harder than any of those games in certain places. At least the first one, the second was easier.
Her DLC for Smash probably made more money than the game cost to make, on top of the game's own profits (which were bad and it bombed). The value of brand is sometimes more important than the direct monetary return.
Ryu probably made more money than SFV.
That and they've been doing some unusual upkeep with the title, such as the reprint. Reprint means they foresaw demand or had excess demand, and that in and of itself is also super-rare for Nintendo. Makes me think it kept selling at a rather steady pace and they saw the DLC as a good initiative to refresh stock, which means they've been paying attention to the brand. And why wouldn't they? Their fans told them how much they cared with the Smash ballot.
IronicSonic
Member
Tomorrow is mine is still the best thing ever
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
So much tapping.
That poor touchscreen.
That poor touchscreen.
Yeah the genre is more niche, is my point, essentially.
If you're fine with getting stone at every chapter, you can go through Bayo with little problems, just hit continue over and over.
Plus they have an easy mode, that Souls games don't have (they do, with some equipment, but it's rather esoteric information).
I don't think it needs any justification in the first place.
TheAbsolution
Member
As someone who watches these on the regular, you get to know them. I know it sounds weird but that's kinda why I like them. Its fun to watch them try and figure it out.
Kiddy Dong
Member
I'm willing to bet the ultra easy touchscreen mode was implemented at Nintendo's demand.
nephilimdj
Member
Reaction to playing a game requiring skill:
Reaction to playing a game in a way that requires no skill and will advance if you play or not:
Sad thing is they push the touch screen in every WiiU game they do, its clearly sponsored by Nintendo but in this case it hurts the game
Eolz
Member
Made the game more accessible, and didn't change a thing about the harder modes. Is there really a problem with that?
Pretty sure this was a decision made between both parties too.
truestatic
Member
I think the only problem with it is that the accessibility comes at the cost of almost the entirety of the game's appeal. When you strip out the difficulty and the striving for mastery, what's left is hardly worth playing.
Can more people play it with an easy touch screen mode? You bet! Can more people enjoy it, though? Ehhhh...
KratosEnergyDrink
Member
All this Bayonetta marketing recently...
Someone could think that Bayonetta 3 could be one of the launch games for NX.
Someone could think that Bayonetta 3 could be one of the launch games for NX.
Eolz
Member
They can. If you look at the video and not just those two gifs (while appropriate and funny), you'd see that this girl was complaining about the game the entire time, unlike other people playing with the touch controls.
When you get in a game with already an opinion, it's hard to change it, whether it's with specific controls or not...
edit:
If it's happening, it's more likely it'd be like the Bayo 2 announcement: confirm it's happening and doesn't release until 2 years or so later.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Jasser is always a level-headed dude.
Bayonetta 1 had an easy auto mode that only required you to press one button. Nintendo was not involved.
Yeah, it's not uncommon to see this in Platinum games. Korra had a similar thing.
I see this sentiment a lot when it comes to fanservice. Seems like people are trying to reframe it to make it seem less like.. fanservice.
A Link to the Past
Banned
I think that the defense is a bit of an excuse, but I don't think that Bayonetta should be framed in the same way as a game with creepy fanservice that feels out of place. It's the reason why we talk more often about Street Fighter's characters than we do Bayonetta - the latter is defined by sexuality, the former is not (and yet has designs as arguably sexual as Bayonetta's).
Bayonetta 1 (and 2, haven't gotten far in Bayonetta 2 to see if that changes) was horrible in explaining on how to do combos. There wasn't a practice model and didn't doesn't help that gaming companies don't like to do printed manuals with the combos listed. So, given that Bayonetta genre is niche, these teenagers most likely don't have any experience in playing beat-them-ups. Furthermore, I bet the video producers didn't bother to explain how to play to the teenagers. Thus, we have the lame reactions.
smaller point spread doesnt mean what you think it mean
I hear you. I think it's the schools today, conditioning young boys in particular to get all cringey and uptight about anything that would, back in the day, have given us good, healthy, old-fashioned wood.
It's the same reason Chris Rock and other notable comics have said they can't/won't perform in front of college audiences anymore. The kids are so sensitive and have so many "trigger" words that they won't even laugh anymore.
As for the game itself, it's a rare gem. I hope there will always be a market for such high-octane action games.
LiveFromKyoto
Member
If by "bro tier" you mean "exactly like every GAFer" then yeah, sure.
I bet he has an account here.
You can think whatever you like.
I don't need an excuse to like sexy overtones in general, but the ones in Bayonetta i find funny more than arousing.
Not everybody has to like them, i'm fine with that.
I don't think they're "stupid shit" though.
It's the style that permeates that whole game (zany absurdity), and it's consistent throughout (as opposed to other examples of pointless sexualization, like Cortana in Halo 4 or Quiet in MGSV).
All there is to it, no great conspiracy.
BTW, "Fanservice" (which is usually trash that goes against the quality of a product, to appease fans) is not synonymous with "sexual overtones".
See above, it's not "an excuse" because i don't feel like i have to justify anything.
If i enjoy something just because it's sexy, i don't have problems admitting it, in Bayonetta's case, i think it's more funny than anything else, because of its absurdity.
For the record, if other people enjoy it for that reason, that is also fine.
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EDIT: Then again i can see how someone would want to do anything in their power, to disassociate themselves from this nonsense: