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Teens React to BAYONETTA 2
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When did this happen? The price started rising after the smash thing and the game was hard to find even before that for the most part due to a limited pressing.
The combo list/press start to enter training mode loading screen between every stage doesn't count?
QuantumZebra
Member
Bayonetta 3 on NX would get me to buy an NX
LambdaTeos
Member
funny, bayonetta bloody fate is on netflix too, bayonetta had a sudden surge of publicity so that's great
Wonderful 101 is the most direct Gurren Lagann parallel.
With the first Bayonetta, the time you to do the combos on the load screen was quite limited. Once, the load screen was finished you couldn't practice the combos anymore. The second Bayonetta fixed that aspect. However, it still isn't a true practice mode in a sense where you can actually fight enemies.
i can't even tell how serious this post is lmao
incorrect. hit select and it'll pause before it loads in until you hit select again. (This is true for both Bayos)
you're right about not being able to hit enemies though.
Something being absurd doesn't really excuse blatant objectification, especially since not all of the "sexual overtones" are all that absurd and are all about just showing Bayonetta's tits & ass without much to laugh at (like the very beginning of Bayonetta 2, there's no absurd comedy to be found in the way the camera shows a close-up of every nook & cranny of her while time is frozen...).
It's not necessarily the content being sexual that is the problem, it's that it's yet another female character that this gets done to that makes it more problematic. I mean, Kamiya made Devil May Cry. A similar action game with a male protagonist and he didn't feel the need to do such overly sexual content for the game, yet as soon as he & his team make a game with a female protagonist, it just needs to be hyper-sexual. You don't see any problem with that? At least as far as the bigger picture of how women are treated in games goes?
I mean, I don't get why you people get so defensive about this shit. While I don't personally see the overt violence in games in as problematic a light as some people do and I do enjoy some ultra-violent games, whenever someone brings up the argument that maybe games could try to have mechanics that that don't rely so much on violence, I don't jump down their throats with an attitude that boils down to "FUCK YOU I ENJOY THIS NO NEED TO THINK ABOUT ALTERNATIVES." They have a valid point, even if they pick on some of my absolute favorite games. It's a discourse that is good to be had.
People who have learned that women are not just sex objects to be gawked at. Bayonetta has some extremely cringeworthy camerawork that is purely for titillation and that's just not something that a lot of modern, straight men really go for. Some have learned how objectification of women is not a good thing, especially as pervasive one as what we find in games at large. I mean, in a way it's even demeaning to men as well. As if EVERYTHING needs to have women in awkward sexy poses and to have T&A shots to hold the attention of a man.
Your shit about low testosterone is completely uncalled for and just tells quite a lot about you as a person instead of being a sick burn on men who don't care for this kind of overt sexualization of women in their games.
QuantumZebra
Member
While I agree a game with a male protag flaunting their sexuality like Bayo would be out of place
... she still owns it and uses it as a weapon. As a strong intersectional feminist I still love the game and the character.
Also, it should be said that Dante was pretty sexualized for a lead male. Moreso than I've seen before.
make it happen
Also, it should be said that Dante was pretty sexualized for a lead male. Moreso than I've seen before.
Smash Bros probably has a lot to do with it, giving publicity to some lesser known characters.
You would be lying to yourselves to say Smash Bros didn't help Fire Emblem become the series it is now.
Smash effect is in full swing.
Ready your wallet!
Drilbit777
Member
Bayonetta 3 as an NX launch title would get me on the console day 1 though I doubt it would happen lol
I don't pretend that you (or anyone else) find it funny, or even like it, again, i'm fine with people disliking the game for whatever reason.
I have a problem with the inability to accept that other may, indeed, find it funny.
And if you don't think that a woman kicking in the air a jet plane, and having her clothes sliced off while doing ridiculously cartoony moans, by centaurs , as she poses like Sailor Moon in the air, isn't at least absurd, we really can't see eye to eye here.
But sure, you can go ahead and tell me what I find or don't find funny though, not gonna change how i feel about it.
I think it's hilarious, in the same way that the horny idiots in Animal House are hilarious.
Bayonetta is not "yet another".
The very core of Bayonetta is of sexually themed action comedy.
Quiet is "yet another" (which i mentioned), Cortana is "yet another" (which i mentioned), EDI is "yet another", that lady from Red Faction Armageddon showing cleavage is "yet another"... i could go on.
I never claimed the industry didn't have a problem with female representation (on the contrary, i've stated the opposite countless times), it doesn't mean that any and all examples of female in a sexual context (even absurdly over the top and fun, like Bayonetta) have to grind my gears or iare equal to any other.
Bayonetta is erotic to its core, and i think that's perfectly fine, there's nothing wrong with eroticism.
It's only a design problem when it's out of place (examples above) and it's a social problem when it's so pervasive and out of balance (which it is, in the industry at large) but in that case, the problem isn't Bayonetta, it's the pointless sexual astroturfing caused by the above examples.
I would find a BayonettO equally as great and funny BTW.
I'm one of the few here (going by the reactions in that thread) who was fine with the sexualized design of that Final Fantasy dude, in that one mobile game, for example.
I just think sexualization has to make sense within the design principle of the game, and should have to be (on a larger scale than a single game) balanced between sexes.
Ploid 3.0
Member
Her hair on her head stay short during full body hair? If so, maybe that's why. With Bayonetta1 it's probably easier to accept it's her hair.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Honestly if it has a different director I'll give it a chance. I was underwhelmed with 2 being a big fan of the first.
Langdon Alger
Banned
They were just virtue signaling. If they were in private, I doubt they'd be offended by it.
That's interesting. I could have swore that with Bayo 2, you could keep practicing without hitting anything. It give you the choice to continue with the game or keep doing the combos without hitting anything. With Bayo 1, I wasn't aware that you could hit select to stop the game from loading.
BurgerDicks
Banned
I think the easy mode works for everyone, regardless of testosterone/estrogen levels. Now higher levels of skill require copious levels of it.
Ploid 3.0
Member
Yeah, it would be expected. I loved the heck out of Bayonetta, on PS3 even, and I accepted that it's a nintendo game and moved on. I think it'll be good if Bayonetta 3 comes out, more games is always better.
If they changed something, it would've been that in Bayo 2 it doesn't auto-load in and probably goes to a 'press any button to continue' state. But I don't recall, it's been a while since I played Bayo 2.
Auto-Reply
Member
There's nothing wrong with the gamepad.
Masked Man
I said wow
Yay for exposing more people to this fabulous game!
-shadow-
Member
Just the game, the IP and everything related to that is still owned by Sega. Easiest way to explain it really.
Ok, good to know. So a multiplatform Bayo 3 isn't impossible, just improbable.
Bayonetta is still fully owned by SEGA.
-shadow-
Member
Pretty much yeah.
Eolz
Member
Basically. Multiplat Bayo2 isn't happening unless someone buys the rights from Nintendo (not happening), and Bayo 3 basically depends on who fund it (Nintendo, Sega for multiplat (or not), MS/Sony for another exclusive, another publisher, etc).
Those games were more subtle, though. Bayonetta 2 starts literally with a groin shot, at one point enemies rips her clothes off in slow-mo as she moans sexually, she gets naked during the battle etc. That's really another level of sexualization.
Also, playing Bayonetta with touch controls looks so much *tap tap tap tap tap* fun. :|
Problem?
Bayonetta is probably my favourite character in gaming is a long ass time, she's fierce and just doesn't give a fuck
Love her
As a teen in that era most kids I knew just thought finding game characters attractive was "sad". I remember thinking Lara's boobs looked stupid in the FMV cutscenes and that the boob bouncing in DOA was dumb. We didn't think too deeply about sexism true but at least in my group of friends we did usually find attempts at sexiness dumb and/or hilariously bad.
i understand. i loved the first one too, but the first impression is that shes a slut. but once u start playing the game is when u realise the game is more than that. i blame the marketing team. if they sold the game as action game and not a porn simulator the game would do much better i think
For all the slack Pewdiepie gets here, he does seem to be on point with his games. Who else gets millions of people to look at games like this? I looked at his channel and was surprised to see that he played trough games like Bloodborne, Heart of Darkness, Bayonetta 2, Shadow of the Colossus and a bunch of other artsy/niche/"core" games. And I genuinely think him and other yt'ers helped bring the horror genre back in the spotlights.
That's your first impression, not mine. My first impression, and i got this from 2 since never heard of 1, was this woman can kick anyone's ass and she does not give a fuck. Don't know what marketing you saw for the game but i sure as hell didn't see a 'porn simulator'. And i should know since i watch a lot of porn!
Eolz
Member
What?
The game was sold as an action game (sexy sure, but nothing different), and she gives the impression that she does what she wants, not that she's a "slut"...
I really wonder how you got to this impression :|
KratosEnergyDrink
Member
We don't know the contract between Sega, Platinum and Nintendo. It could be for one game only, but the fact that Bayo1 got ported to WiiU make me think, could Nintendo perhaps have exclusive rights for a third game.
Monocle
Member
Yeah I was really happy to see his Let's Play. He didn't just mock the game, he was able to show a lot of what's great about it. Even mentioned how good the combat system is.
Yes, lol. Because it's the best action game of the generation lol. Genuinely great gameplay and design, endlessly replayable if you like deep combat, with two season passes' worth of content included on-disk. Try it for yourself.
what the hell? yo, i think thats a very weird first impression on your part. like, thats not a normal response.
Amazing intro.
Eolz
Member
Yeah maybe there is a specific deal and we don't know about it, but Sega owns the Bayonetta IP, not Platinum nor Nintendo, which is what people here meant.