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Dead Rising 4 Announced (XB1/PC, Holiday 2016) Gameplay Trailer
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Looks amazing
Dead Rising 4 will no longer have a timer in singleplayer.
http://www.gamesradar.com/heres-why...al&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=buffer-oxm
http://www.gamesradar.com/heres-why...al&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=buffer-oxm
Well that is great news.
Hesemonni
Banned
I for one liked the timer in the first game :/ Made for a sense of urgency and pushed for a multiple playthroughs. It's not for everyone and I completely understand why they got rid of it.
Bleh, couldn't they have a free roaming mode after you completed the game? This is going to make the game way to easy
There are ways of designing game difficulty around things other than a timer.
Danis Saur
Member
Dead Rising 3 didn't make me feel rushed at all, they gave you a lot of time that it didn't feel urgent. Oh well, I don't mind this change.
So...you didn't play dead Rising 3 did you?
Fleshfeast
Member
I love this, but many will complain.
The time limit is why I couldn't enjoy any of the early DR games, and making it less restrictive in DR3 made it far more enjoyable for me. I own all of them, but 3 is the first that I even finished one playthrough of. It was still annoying that sometimes I want to just want to wander around exploring and killing zombies, but I can't because of the time limit.
edit: Actually come to think of it, I beat DR3 3 times in the first week. I did a solo run, a co-op run, and a nightmare run to get the challenge for beating Nightmare during launch week.
Then play the 5000 other games with zombies in them instead of demanding one of the most unique zombie games out there ton turn into a generic piece of ass.
It'd be like doom with iron sights, regenerating health, and a jingoistic storyline were added.
Dead Rising 3 had stupid timers on the side quests involving survivors and I felt rushed. I even restarted my playthrough, because I missed one of those side quests and to this date I didn't complete the game, because I don't want to miss one thing.
I welcome this change.
Nah, it would be like having a timer in DOOM.
Edit: I'm a friend of choice and I'd be happy if it would have an option like "Timer" - "Yes/No". Everyone will be happy.
abracadaver
Member
The time limit in 3 was a joke already. Even on your first playthrough you had more than enough time to complete every mission.
Backfoggen
Banned
I loved the timing aspect of DR1 too but you either do it or don't. The weird half-assed thing in DR3 wasn't good. I have no probs with them removing it.
They just need to make sure DR1 is BC on release.
They just need to make sure DR1 is BC on release.
Beyond awesome. The timer thing grew old after the first play. And the no timer mode was crap, because your health behaved like the timer.
Recently picked up the franchise pack from steam sale, so I'll finally get to play Off the record, and 3, while I wait for this.
Thank the gods!
Magic Mushroom
Member
Dead Rising was awesome and unique. Shame they turned it into a generic zombie killing game.
Backfoggen
Banned
Please show me all the other games that are like it.
Lightning Count
Member
Will preorder as soon as possible, love the Dead Rising series.
Smooth Operator
Member
I'll wait for a sale then.
Magic Mushroom
Member
It's regressive game design. You remove what made it intelligent, unique and challenging. Now you are left with Dynasty Warriors with zombies. If I mindlessly want to kill zombies I'll play Dead Island. The beauty of DR was that there was nothing like it. Then the sequels started to chip away at the qualities that made it unique and now we're left with a hollow shell of its former self.
It's like removing the three day mechanic of Majora's Mask. Dumbing it down.
All of this is spot on.
TheSpoiler
Member
Until we understand the rest of the mechanics, the impact of quality could be nothing or major. People are being too hyperbolic with such little information overall.
BabyFaceKillah
Member
incoming hardcore mode then?
demosthenes
Member
Seems odd to kill off the timer mode completely. They couldn't just feature it as a separate mode?
The removal of the timer seems good to me. I didn't like the timer in the first 2 Dead Rising games as I felt like I was constantly being rushed and I like to explore a bit.
However Dead Rising 3's timer was fine as it allowed me enough time to get from one place to another without the worry.
However Dead Rising 3's timer was fine as it allowed me enough time to get from one place to another without the worry.
I disagree, it actually did.
Which is what I found most surprising about it that it looked so close to MT Framework despite being a different in-house engine from Capcom Canada.
It's not that CPU bound actually, my FX6300 has no issues with the game. The only FPS Killer is the Depth of Field, which luckily looks like ass, so the game's all the better with it turned off.
Lmfao
While I understand the love for the Time Constraints, I think all the "It's Dynasty Warriors with Zombies!" and "It's dumbed down!" stuff is pretty shallow, in it's own way.
What I've grown to love in DR, once one gets past the time limits the the games had (which honestly didn't amount to much once you learned to manage your play-throughs) is the intricacy of the areas and locations the games take place in.
There are WAY too many games that still have mysteriously walled off buildings and conveniently only a few dull stores open. (Look at The Division for this kind of thing in droves and droves). The amount of objects that are stuck-in-place, and can't even be messed up or destroyed is insane.
Whereas in a Dead Rising (especially 3), you can pretty much destroy or use anything that SHOULD be movable. You can drive cars that are in a condition to be driven (I hate how useless cars are in The Division), use any debris that was left behind after the outbreak, find things as miniscule as magazines and soda cans, all of which have use, and generally scale or find a way into basically any building, save for a few.
As much as I like harder games and such, I actually find deep interactivity with environments much more unique. If the cost of putting a lot into the world is "We want you to be able to take it in, without distraction", that's a pretty fair trade to me.
I still want to see some elements that have limits by design (like while in the middle of a mission), but having freedom in between the story sounds fine. As long as the world is a fun place to play around in. I hope the Mecha-suit really helps to open up the world to even more mechanics (such as punching down certain walls for shortcuts, or stacking cars to climb up to roofs).
Really, if I had an ultimate feature that I'd want to see in a DR now, it'd be less timeline quest, and more like... getting some kind of geo-mod similar to Red Faction Gorilla. I might not want it to be as insane, but being able to do things like make craters in the ground to slow hordes, or to escape into the sewer system when you're too surrounded, would be quite fun.
What I've grown to love in DR, once one gets past the time limits the the games had (which honestly didn't amount to much once you learned to manage your play-throughs) is the intricacy of the areas and locations the games take place in.
There are WAY too many games that still have mysteriously walled off buildings and conveniently only a few dull stores open. (Look at The Division for this kind of thing in droves and droves). The amount of objects that are stuck-in-place, and can't even be messed up or destroyed is insane.
Whereas in a Dead Rising (especially 3), you can pretty much destroy or use anything that SHOULD be movable. You can drive cars that are in a condition to be driven (I hate how useless cars are in The Division), use any debris that was left behind after the outbreak, find things as miniscule as magazines and soda cans, all of which have use, and generally scale or find a way into basically any building, save for a few.
As much as I like harder games and such, I actually find deep interactivity with environments much more unique. If the cost of putting a lot into the world is "We want you to be able to take it in, without distraction", that's a pretty fair trade to me.
I still want to see some elements that have limits by design (like while in the middle of a mission), but having freedom in between the story sounds fine. As long as the world is a fun place to play around in. I hope the Mecha-suit really helps to open up the world to even more mechanics (such as punching down certain walls for shortcuts, or stacking cars to climb up to roofs).
Really, if I had an ultimate feature that I'd want to see in a DR now, it'd be less timeline quest, and more like... getting some kind of geo-mod similar to Red Faction Gorilla. I might not want it to be as insane, but being able to do things like make craters in the ground to slow hordes, or to escape into the sewer system when you're too surrounded, would be quite fun.
SlaughterX
Banned
I'm ok with no timer. Will be buying day one and playing on PC!
I expected this. I didn't expect Capcom Vancouver to design meaningful gameplay and levels around a timer. And no, giving a choice between a timer or not doesn't matter if the game isn't designed around it like in 3. They should've just did what 2: Off the Record did and gave a sandbox mode since the game is actually designed somewhat well around a timer but oh well. I can't expect a rogue-like survival horror with great level design and route memorization from this series anymore, and I should of picked up on that earlier.
ArgyleReptile
Banned
This is how I feel. Just allow us to free roam after we beat the game.
I believe it's possible to get that same effecr without the timer. Just have it where certain decisions lock off certain quests. Have multiple paths to the end and each decision opens up a new path, but closes off another.
1. No idea. Does it matter?
2. The trailer seemed to indicate it's a sequel, set 10 years after the first.
As to the timer, I'll concede that it was unfriendly to a mass audience but I'll be disappointed if there are no concessions to create a harder mode available from the outset for those of us who did enjoy a more restrictive experience. DR3 had some fun elements (especially in the DLC) and I'm happy the series still exists but it's not what attracted me to DR in the first place.
Mr.Fletcher
Member
I'm more disappointed with the changes to Frank's look and voice - deflated some of my hype immediately.
Fuck the timer; glad it's gone. Made the shitty AI of the first two games even more unbearable. Plus it makes it much harder to complete everything in one run. Let me decide whether or not to do a second play through instead of basically forcing me to in order to see everything
Cool cool. Should be fun to wander around finding all the oddities the devs put in.
Hardcore timer DLC to be launched in February.
I'm pretty sure it's UE4.
It's set 15 years after the first game.
Jeez. No timer and changing Frank? What's the point of bringing him back if you change him? And why not make a tight, well designed campaign based on a timer with a "freeplay" mode available at the outset instead of unlocked? This is so quickly going from day 1 to "on sale I guess." =\
This is what made it fun. You didn't have to save all 50 people, but man was it a thrill to do it perfectly.
This is what made it fun. You didn't have to save all 50 people, but man was it a thrill to do it perfectly.
jediyoshi
Member
What do you think the purpose of it is?
Vaughngief
Member
Think they'll just rewrite the characters ages since this has been confirmed to be a continuation? At this point Frank should be in his 50's.
to annoy the everloving fuck out of players ?
No, there's an Xbox Daily from E3 with one of the devs who talks about that and they specifically wanted it to be him coming back to Willamette 15 years later and it happening again.
I never realised I wanted this.
KatamariOnTheRocks
Member
I also completely agree with all of this.
It's frustrating that they're going the same route that they did with 3 again.
In 3 they clearly built the city without any regards for a timer and then shoe-horned it in after the fact which lead to alot of the problems with the flow of the gameplay/traversal of the city.
If they just built the game around the timer first, and then allowed for people to have the identical experience without a timer then everyone would be happy.
Building it from the ground up without consideration for a timer will lead to more counter-intuitive level design like the third game.