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Radeon RX480 Review Thread, Launching Now!
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mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
What chance is there of getting a hold of a 4gb model with secret 8gb anymore?
To add to everyones else comment.
I always buy my computer parts from Newegg which doesnt charge my state tax.
Well for cpu and mobo i usually buy microcenter.
Man that air cooler does sound like the most innovative and well built cooler in a long time. They need to reuse that in future vega gpus.
and that backplate is just hot fire.
DemonCleaner
Member
why is this card 30 to 50 GBP less than the premium 1060ies in the UK while it costs roughly the same here in germany
hope they will adjust the preorder pricing after launch.
1360 MHz OC is disappointing also.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
why is this card 30 to 50 GBP less than the premium 1060ies in the UK while it costs roughly the same here in germany
hope they will adjust the preorder pricing after launch.
1360 MHz OC is disappointing also.
I don't understand why Germany doesn't have an equivalent to OverclockersUK. Surely PC gaming industry is bigger with ze Germans too.
super-famicom
Member
I posted that yesterday already. No other sites have reviews up?
Well, they're owned by caseking.de
dr_rus
Member
Sorry, must have missed it somehow.
No, haven't seen any other reviews for now.
DemonCleaner
Member
what do you mean by that? we have one or two big online vendors.
and yeah, germany was historically by far the biggest (enthusiast) pc gaming market in europe. pc gaming was allways bigger than console gaming here. not sure if that's still the case though.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Is there no major specialist PC component seller like OCUK in Germany? I know there must be lots of specialist sellers but OCUK seems to be world-leading in terms of what they stock, when they get the products in and exclusives etc. Just seems strange as the hardcore PC hardware scene in UK isn't very significant at all.
SinSilla
Member
I'd say texture quality and (non Post processed) Anti Aliasing.
Thank you!
Oracle Dragon
Member
Okay, somewhat committed to the Nitro now... I bought a freesync monitor the other day because my old Samsung broke. I'm a bit concerned though that I don't have display port, only HDMI, has anyone tried Freesync over HDMI? I know AMD added support to it. but I can't find a lot of details, I just want to be sure it won't end up being inferior to the display port version.
The monitor is still 1080p only, a 27" Samsung VA panel. It seems pretty good so far, Windows is not as sharp as I would like that's for sure. But Netflix and games look really nice on it IMO, Witcher 3 and Ori looked great. I heard VA was "no good for games" due to it's response time, but it's rated for 4ms which seems well within the range that others use IPS to game on. I'm worried that the range is 48 - 72 Hz for Freesync but also hoping the Nitro can keep 1080p games in that range for the next 5 years. I don't buy a lot of upgrades and this monitor was $350 + tx CAD, it needs to last a long time. Still debating replacing it with a BenQ RL series 24" TN for $199 CAD.
The monitor is still 1080p only, a 27" Samsung VA panel. It seems pretty good so far, Windows is not as sharp as I would like that's for sure. But Netflix and games look really nice on it IMO, Witcher 3 and Ori looked great. I heard VA was "no good for games" due to it's response time, but it's rated for 4ms which seems well within the range that others use IPS to game on. I'm worried that the range is 48 - 72 Hz for Freesync but also hoping the Nitro can keep 1080p games in that range for the next 5 years. I don't buy a lot of upgrades and this monitor was $350 + tx CAD, it needs to last a long time. Still debating replacing it with a BenQ RL series 24" TN for $199 CAD.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah, I'm selling my old Asus monitor and have a 144hz freesync monitor now (got the Nixeus for $200). Unless Nvidia decides to support VESA adaptive sync between now and when non-reference 480s are actually available I'm pretty committed to a 480.
Still leaning toward the Nitro but someone else has something similarly good and cheaper I might bite on it. I'm sure someone (probably XFX?) will try to hit that $260 price point between reference and the Nitro/Devil.
Oracle Dragon
Member
Yeah, but $10 or so difference between Nitro and XFX I don't think is a deal breaker... as long as it comes with 8GB (for me, at least).
I sort of wish I bought the 24" monitor instead, 27" seems just on the cusp of being too large for 1080p. I could return it for a 24" and save $125.
If I don't keep this I seem to have two choices, it may be worth the extra money considering how long I would like to keep the setup, but I'm not sure which:
1) Acer XG270HU 144Hz 1440p with Freesync + Nitro 8GB ($200 more than what I am buying now).
2) AoC 24" G2460PG 144Hz 1080p with GSync + EVGA 1060 ($190 more than what I am buying now).
I hate spending so much more on a high end monitor only to be tied to a specific GPU vendor for the next 10 years. I love the idea of QuadHD gaming, but the problem is the Nitro isn't really a 1440p card. It can "mostly" do it now, but 3+ years from now? Freesync would assist a bit, but if AMD's next card can't bring solid 1440p to the table in 5 years, I could be in trouble.
vanguardian1
poor, homeless and tasteless
Rumors are having that Sapphire are releasing 460's and 470's before the month ends. Hopefully we'll hear more in the next few days.
http://videocardz.com/62511/sapphire-radeon-rx-470-and-rx-460-pictured
http://videocardz.com/62511/sapphire-radeon-rx-470-and-rx-460-pictured
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
That 460 seems needlessly large for a sub-75W card.
DonMigs85
Member
Yeah, other pics I've seen of it usually show it as an ITX card.
vanguardian1
poor, homeless and tasteless
Sapphire's 460 and 470 cards look very different than the reference boards showed last month. So back to waiting........... waiting sucks. >.<
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
The Polaris GPU is most efficient at lower frequencies so these 460s and 470s should be much closer to Pascal equivalents in terms of their power usage - performance ratio. So these cards ought to be top of the pile in these price ranges.
On the other hand, the 1060 is actually less efficient than the 1070/1080. So a 1050 should be less efficient still and be very close in terms of power usage.
On the other hand, the 1060 is actually less efficient than the 1070/1080. So a 1050 should be less efficient still and be very close in terms of power usage.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Apparently on Sapphire's stream today they confirmed the Nitro+ OC is getting the top binned chips. I was kind of confused about the different models but it looks like there are three different Nitro 480s, not two. 4GB, 8GB, and 8GB OC.
I wonder what the pricing is going to look like then, it seems like the $270 might be the OC card and not the standard 8GB. The PC World article never refers to it as OC, but when listing the specs gave the OC version's clocks.
I wonder what the pricing is going to look like then, it seems like the $270 might be the OC card and not the standard 8GB. The PC World article never refers to it as OC, but when listing the specs gave the OC version's clocks.
Padon my ignorance but what difference does top-binning make?
DonMigs85
Member
Those are the highest quality chips that can overclock further.
UK prices are £200, £240 and £250. If you remove 20% VAT £250 works out to $273 which isn't far off the actual US price, so probably $260 for the standard 8GB version.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Basically, though it's still not guaranteed to do much of anything beyond the "stock" overclock. I have a MSI 760 Hawk which is like the highest factory OC'd 760 and is supposed to be made for OCing. Only got it because it was cheapest one at the time after some discounts and rebates. If I was looking to seriously overclock I'd have been insanely disappointed because I couldn't get anything out of it beyond the default clocks.
Not even that it's different from city to city within a state.
DonMigs85
Member
Yeah, even the reviewer for the Nitro only got it up to 1360 max boost. I was able to add +100 to my Strix GTX 960 (at +110 or even 105 it couldn't reliably complete stress testing in 3DMark).
super-famicom
Member
Ty.
Man .. it's almost next week and still no cards on Amazon or Newegg
If I can't get one this week for under $280, I'm just going to save up for a GTX 1070.
super-famicom
Member
Product page on Amazon for the 4GB and 8GB (both temporarily out of stock):
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01J1M4IHS/?tag=neogaf0e-20
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01J1M4BZ2/?tag=neogaf0e-20
FYI from Reddit showing the SKUs:
The Sapphire Nitro RX 480 lineup consists of three cards. They are detailed below. Reference card provided for reference
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Reference - 4GB/£189/$199, 8GB/£219/$239:
Base - 1120
Boost - 1266
Memory - 4GB @ 7gbps, or 8GB @ 8gbps
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Sapphire Nitro+ 4GB (11260-02-20G) - £199/$219:
Base - 1208
Boost - 1306
Memory - 4GB @ 7gbps
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Sapphire Nitro+ 8GB (11260-07-20G) - £239/$259 (US price unconfirmed):
Base - 1208
Boost - 1306
Memory - 8GB @ 8gbps
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Sapphire Nitro+ OC 8GB (11260-01-20G) - £249/$269:
Base - 1208
Boost - 1342
Memory - 8GB @ 8gbps
Seems like Amazon doesn't have the Nitro+ OC yet, going by the SKUs
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01J1M4IHS/?tag=neogaf0e-20
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01J1M4BZ2/?tag=neogaf0e-20
FYI from Reddit showing the SKUs:
The Sapphire Nitro RX 480 lineup consists of three cards. They are detailed below. Reference card provided for reference
────────
Reference - 4GB/£189/$199, 8GB/£219/$239:
Base - 1120
Boost - 1266
Memory - 4GB @ 7gbps, or 8GB @ 8gbps
────────
Sapphire Nitro+ 4GB (11260-02-20G) - £199/$219:
Base - 1208
Boost - 1306
Memory - 4GB @ 7gbps
────────
Sapphire Nitro+ 8GB (11260-07-20G) - £239/$259 (US price unconfirmed):
Base - 1208
Boost - 1306
Memory - 8GB @ 8gbps
────────
Sapphire Nitro+ OC 8GB (11260-01-20G) - £249/$269:
Base - 1208
Boost - 1342
Memory - 8GB @ 8gbps
Seems like Amazon doesn't have the Nitro+ OC yet, going by the SKUs
Is the second one the OC version? The item description is non-existant. It's out of stock now so I'll have to wait though.
Edit: Thanks Super-Famicom.
super-famicom
Member
Link for OC version, unavailable to order though
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01J1M4CZG/?tag=neogaf0e-20
No price listed but it will be more than $270 since non-OC version is $269. FFS Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01J1M4CZG/?tag=neogaf0e-20
No price listed but it will be more than $270 since non-OC version is $269. FFS Amazon
Looks like the OC one will be more than $270. Now that we have amazon's pricing.
Doesn't appear to be the OC version.Is the second one the OC version? The item description is non-existant. It's out of stock now so I'll have to wait though.
Edit: Thanks Super-Famicom.
hooijdonk17
Member
Considering how little headroom the RX480 seems to have for GPU OC'ing anyway I really can't see any appeal in buying non-reference cards for a premium here..
Runs much cooler, and with noticeably less noise. Those are my reason, as I have no interest in OC'ing
Not bad for a $20 premium. imo
hooijdonk17
Member
Yeah but.. a $20 premium on a high end card for a marginal ease of mind is understandable, but the whole appeal of this card is frames per dollar.. Investing in fancy coolers for the kind of fan noise I need to put my ear against my case to actually be bothered by seems kind of wasteful to me..
To each their own of course. Just, not my thing.. I went with the $199 reference model and never looked back, the value proposition was what sold the card to me, that's all.
I totally understand that. I was thiiiiis close to just getting a $199 reference for that bang/buck with a plan to upgrade my whole PC in 1 or 2 years.
But I"ve been living with a hot and noisy computer for a couple of years now and.. no more. $20 to help keep my gaming PC quieter and cooler is worth it. No more blowers and cheap heatsinks for me.
edit: higher clocks and less power draw from the motherboard are icing on the cake as far as I'm concerned too
SmartWaffles
Member
Significantly improved cooling and power solution, higher clocks out of the box, and reference cards have their boost clock reduced to avoid drawing too much power from the PCIE slot, you actually will see better performance on the non-reference cards.
hooijdonk17
Member
This is not true, the card's power draw or performance was not reduced by reducing overall TDP package, it was done by rebalancing the PCIe and 6pin rail power draw. With Catalyst 16.7.2 and above there is nothing wrong with Reference RX 480 power draws..
SmartWaffles
Member
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-rx-480-polaris-power-fix,4668.html
It is a minimal loss but a loss regardless, non-reference cards come with higher clocks anyway, but the main draw of them is better cooling.