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Eurogamer: NX = portable w/ carts, detachable controllers, Tegra, TV Out, no BC, Sept

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It can if they stopped adding gimmicks. Look how much hype came from the NES re-release console coming this fall. People want it, they remember Nintendo.

Keep your message, and your console simple and people will flock to it. It's the reason Sony is doing so well. It's not complicated to wrap your head around.

Nintendo have this habbit of wanting to innovate hardware all the time, but by the time they do everything tech wise has already passed them. The Wii, DS I'll give you that were ahead of the curb. But releasing a hybrid will either sell like hot cakes depending on what it can do, or it will fizzle out.

PS4 and XB1 will recieve price drops next year, who will buy a Nintendo home console with no 3rd party support .
 
So if I'm understanding the graphics comparisons correctly, Nintendo is taking a half gen leap from Wii U. That means at the end of the NX's cycle, it will be 1.5 generations behind the competition instead of 1 generation behind like it has been since Wii launched in 2006.

Nintendo will never again be a graphical powerhouse.
 

Effect

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Some people think Tegra graphics are :

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But

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This should be added to the opening post to calm some people down until we get more information.
 

Kinsei

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This sounds interesting. I hope the event is early Spetember. Ugh, it seems so far away.

if by "apeshit" you mean "keep playing games on mobile", then yeah.

the days of Japan going apeshit over any traditional video game systems, consoles or handhelds, is over.

Monster Hunter 5.
 

The_Lump

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Right, I've thought about it and I'm putting my money on a Tegra "X2" (ie next generation of X1, which is FinFET I believe), which is down-clocked when in "mobile" mode to bring the power consumption to sensible levels allowing for a reasonable battery life when playing ~WiiU level games on the built in 540p screen.

When you plug the sucker in to a TV (and obviously, mains power), the full clock speed is available etc meaning the game can be rendered at a higher framerate, higher resolution, better graphics etc etc yadda yadda. I reckon somewhere around XBOne level of 'on-paper' performance.

I think Eurogamer's speculation on this whole thing might well have some plausibility. But of course it is just speculation right now.
 

jett

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So the dock.

It's going to be sold separately isn't it? At least that's what I expect, knowing Nintendo. It's not necessary for the handheld to function, and they can make an extra buck.
 
Prediction: Nintendo is going to use a custom Chip based on the Tegra X, not just a simple X1 or X2. And the docking is going to have another GPU, the handheld alone is around 300-400Gflops, whit the docking 1-1.5 Tflops. ;)
 
I think that depends on the form factor / portability. If any of these mock ups are anything to go by..
Yeah, I don't like the idea of a detachable controller. They should make it as portable and pocket-friendly as possible with integrated controls and have a separate controller a la Fire TV.

Otherwise, it might end up too bulky and unwieldy to comfortably use outside and ruin the point.
 

Taker666

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I hate this. I don't want a beefy handheld. I don't want any handheld.
A 2017 console being less powerful than the XB1 is dogshit.

I'd have no problem with an NX console being slightly less powerful than the XB1...provided it was $150- $199...and I wasn't forced to buy a handheld component that would bump the cost.

As it is... it's like to being forced to buy an iPad /iPhone to be able to access Apple TV.
 

AGITΩ

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So if this patent:
is to be applied to this rumor.
Would it be fair to assume that the Handheld portion would get a boost in performance when docked for home console use? I could see it helping with the cost of the screen if need be. Where it could run games at say slightly sub 720p on the Screen but when docked the performance boost would allow for better resolutions and graphic performance?
 

Trago

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Right, I've thought about it and I'm putting my money on a Tegra "X2" (ie next generation of X1, which is FinFET I believe), which is down-clocked when in "mobile" mode to bring the power consumption to sensible levels allowing for a reasonable battery life when playing ~WiiU level games on the built in 540p screen.

When you plug the sucker in to a TV (and obviously, mains power), the full clock speed is available etc meaning the game can be rendered at a higher framerate, higher resolution, better graphics etc etc yadda yadda. I reckon somewhere around XBOne level of 'on-paper' performance.

I think Eurogamer's speculation on this whole thing might well have some plausibility. But of course it is just speculation right now.

I'm thinking this as well. The battery life needs to not suck.
 
Prediction: Nintendo is going to use a custom Chip based on the Tegra X, not just a simple X1 or X2. And the docking is going to have another GPU, the handheld alone is around 300-400Gflops, whit the docking 1-1.5 Tflops. ;)

That could make for a pretty pricy machine

I hope the portable unit can be bought on its own

Then I could join the fun gradually

Is the plan for NX to takeover the DS? Or will the DS continue on as it is?

The sooner that 3DS dies the better IMHO

Im ready for a clean break from their shit hardware
 

Papacheeks

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MS is "floundering" because that market is firmly entrenched in the Sony and PC camps at the moment. I swear some of you sound like you just woke up after being in cryosleep since 1996. Nintendo doesn't have the cache with the market that is currently buying PS4s and gaming on PCs. Hell Microsoft actually does and, as you said, they are floundering. That day some of you have been dreaming about when 18 - 35 year old "dude bros" drop their Playstations and Xboxes because they want to play Zelda and Mario Kart and restore order to the gaming universe is never coming. I'm glad Nintendo seems to be realizing this even if you aren't.

So Nintendo can't capitalize on Xbox missing the mark and shitting on their own brand like Sony did with Sega?

Sony was competing against Nintendo and Sega, but sega fucked up bad in the late 90's that Sony was able to pick up steam and roll right over them.

I see now difference in the situation XBox is in currently. This could be Nintendo's time to really show that they have moved on, and changed as a company. But this device just shows how much they dont care about that market anymore. They just want casuals. With the occasional Nintendo faithful buying dedicated AAA nintendo games.
 
So the dock.

It's going to be sold separately isn't it? At least that's what I expect, knowing Nintendo. It's not necessary for the handheld to function, and they can make an extra buck.
Maybe a standard one and a more advanced one for hardcore gamers?
AGITΩ;211447545 said:
So if this patent:

is to be applied to this rumor.
Would it be fair to assume that the Handheld portion would get a boost in performance when docked for home console use? I could see it helping with the cost of the screen if need be. Where it could run games at say slightly sub 720p on the Screen but when docked the performance boost would allow for better resolutions and graphic performance?
Yes. We hope
 

_woLf

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This sounds gimmicky as hell and I'm really not sure if that's what Nintendo needs right now.

I am extremely skeptical.
 
Nintendo will never again be a graphical powerhouse.

Of course not but I was also hoping they wouldn't fall even more behind. They won't get many multi-plat games going this route. Not sure if their 1st parties and the handful of 3rd parties willing to take a risk are going to be able to support this thing fully
 
Nintendo Go.

Calling it.

Go is five in Japanese, this being their 5th generation handheld. Also, makes sense to capitalise on the Pokemon Go mindshare.

That.... would be perfect.
You know what, you've sold me. I change my mind about this needing to be called "Nintendo" or "Nintendo Entertainment System."

"Nintendo Go" is not only the right choice for the name, it's the only choice. I really hope they don't overthink it this time...
 

Durante

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I wonder if they will actually use Vulkan or did Nintendo us proprietary API's for Wii & Wii-U?
Even if they used proprietary APIs before, given the massive architectural shift in terms of hardware it would make sense to make a clean cut to something Vulkan-like (or Vulkan full stop) -- also in order to more quickly get third party toolchains up and running on their system.
 
So the battery life is going to be terrible, if it's going to put out the visuals we've been shown, right?

And... cartridges? Hmm... well, that's interesting to say the least!
 

Dr. Worm

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If they're cutting out the touch screen, and there's no 3D capability, they might be able to land this thing within the range of the 3DS pricepoint.

$200 may be pushing it. Could $250 work, six years on? The Wii debuted at that, after all.
 
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