Randomizer
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The cooling is worrisome. A noisy ass fan in a handheld sounds bulky, loud and prone to breaking.
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Eurogamer: NX = portable w/ carts, detachable controllers, Tegra, TV Out, no BC, Sept
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DeepEnigma
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Same, when I used to see ads of Bonk on the handheld, and it was the same card you slid into the TG16 (PC Engine), I daydreamed as a kid of having one.
Sadly, I never had either, lol. Was Commodore 64/128 and NES. And looking back, I could not complain.
JayBabay
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It's a tablet though, all I'm saying is can enough power and cooling be packed into something so small? I would love if their were some modern examples because I'm not trying to disagree. I know the Google Pixel C and the Shield TV both use the Tegra X1. The K1 in my Shield Tablet is awesome but all I've seen on it are mobile games and I'm not sure about exclusives taking advantage of the Shield TV or Pixel C so we get an idea of what it can do.
LordRaptor
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...what sequels?
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Source: http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinions/nintendo-2ds-vs-3ds-vs-3ds-xl#Upq15TwddvolTssR.99
Unless I misunderstand, the above means the combined screen real estate on 3DS is 6 inches. Though I guess you don't really need to look at both screens when playing, not at the same time at least. So I suppose this means a return to pause screens and a goodbye to touchscreen interfaces perhaps. So if the NX HH is 3'' that's smaller than a 3DS screen. If it's 5'', that's larger than an XL.
spazimoose
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I really dont think Nintendo would try the external processor thing, too expensive and complex. I have a feeling all the dock will do is give power, HDMI, and maybe cooling.
The X1 is way more powerful than people are giving it credit for especially if it only needs to output 720p. I bet the X1 is throttled when its used as a handheld to conserve battery and reduce heat. when you dock it it lets you use everything that's under the hood. Maybe the active cooling is only for when its docked?
The X1 is way more powerful than people are giving it credit for especially if it only needs to output 720p. I bet the X1 is throttled when its used as a handheld to conserve battery and reduce heat. when you dock it it lets you use everything that's under the hood. Maybe the active cooling is only for when its docked?
SinCityAssassin
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Mithos being a cheap shit.
Haunted
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Oh, I see. lol we all sort of jumped on him there.
Jonneh3003
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Calm waterfall
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So the battery will last an hour or two at most?
DeepEnigma
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I think you forgot at least a 1 there.
Schnozberry
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I can't imagine Nintendo going with an internal fan. Seems too risky and creates a point of failure that could be disastrous to the longevity of the system. A fan in the dock makes more sense, but only if you have the right materials. It's the only feasible way i can think of that you could increase the wattage while the system was docked and not have serious adverse consequences.
Why can't the dock be sold separately for x price.
Sorcerer
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Nintendo has to cut ties to move forward at some point.
If backwards compatibility must be sacrificed then the Wii U is the perfect system to cut ties with.
Mithos
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So is Nintendo (if this leak is correct) 1889-2017 RIP
I will buy a PS4 for $250 before I pay $250 for what this rumor presents. (just as I refused to pay $300 for something like the Wii U, and got it half price 8 months after release)
If Nintendo wants me to pay $250 for their home console (I have ZERO interest in portable) it better be on par with the 3 year old XB1/PS4.
exmachina64
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Nintendo prices will be $60.
Dr. Zoidberg
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32GB probably $5-$6 in bulk. More than discs but it's not like the old days.
digitalrelic
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Why would anyone believe this could ever possibly be $99 dollars? You can't even get a 3DS for $99 today. There's is absolutely no way in hell the NX will sell for that. 0% chance.
I'm guessing $249 or $299.
I'm guessing $249 or $299.
Wouldn't that also be the NX brains?
This isn't wrong, but I'm also willing to bet Nintendo will come up with some really cool, simple games that take advantage of the compartmental nature of the handheld. Like, a three player game that has one person on the touch screen and two people using the controllers. Or something totally different, I have no idea lol. I just know Nintendo is amazing at using their hardware to create unique experiences.
ZiZ
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I want to know how local multiplayer would work.
Will it have multiple controllers?
And what about portable games like pokemon, where each player plays on their own handheld? Will it be possible to have multiple handheld units use the same console unit?
Having multiple handhelds is common among siblings, Will they each need their own console unit now?
Will it have multiple controllers?
And what about portable games like pokemon, where each player plays on their own handheld? Will it be possible to have multiple handheld units use the same console unit?
Having multiple handhelds is common among siblings, Will they each need their own console unit now?
Jonneh3003
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Get him fellas!
I hate bombarding the same person for one comment but this thread moves too fast.
It's more so for the 3DS people.
Every Nintendo handheld has been BC for at least 1 gen (with the exception of DSi).
joecanada
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and don't forget never on sale lol
Hello? This is Hailun!
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And the latter desperately trying to fill their lack of handheld with various hyper expensive and totally failed phone initiatives.
Though if their current idea pans out it will basically be doing what the NX is doing anyway.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3065...a-week-using-a-windows-10-phone-as-my-pc.html
killatopak
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5"-5.5" is the sweet spot. It worked great for smartphones and the Vita.
civilstrife
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Why yes, I would like to play Breath of the Wild on the go.
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I really love Nintendo, but we don't have to invent things to make this rumor true.
It just doesn't fit.
The only thing thats new and could be expected to happen is that you have shared libraries. But thats also not a new experience.
I really love Nintendo, but we don't have to invent things to make this rumor true.
It just doesn't fit.
The only thing thats new and could be expected to happen is that you have shared libraries. But thats also not a new experience.
That'd make them happy?
I think people thought you were saying you had heard from some source or another that it would in fact cost $99. But I think you meant the reasonable value of the product, to you, is $99, not that you'd heard it from somewhere. Right?
There will be VC support. Just probably not for Wii U games. We'll get remasters of some of those instead.
It likely will. They would likely launch the unit as a bundle on Day 1 - so people can experience the entire vision, and then launch individual skus (handheld only, and then the dock standalone), as options for people. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter to a pub/dev if people are playing at home or on the go.
Tom Nook Sawyer
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Which one? There were a bunch of them
Vanillalite
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Current LPDDR4 chips are of the 1600mhz variant in the Pixel C and Shield. That being said LPDDR4 can go up to 3200mhz.
Also you sure you don't mean 80 GB/s in GDDR5? LoL
Your probably looking at between 25-30. Galaxy S6 is at 24.8 while the Pixel C/Shield is 25.6 GB/s. The GS6 clocked at 1555mhz. The shield bumped the clock speed up a hair. Meanwhile the GS7 snap 820 variant uses 1866mhz variety. So the clock speed has been going up. Which puts the GS7 closer to 30 GB/s.
ShockingAlberto
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Hahahaha
Inglorious_ Man
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I agree with you because there are games that are released for both Vita and PS4. I think many of the 3rd party games will be from Japanese developers.
Randomizer
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My guess is a price of $250-300 for the system or maybe they'll do separate sku's for a home hub or something. I am worried about high capacity cartridge prices causing inflated game prices just like the 90's.
J_ToSaveTheDay
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Sounds fine, as long as none of the technology present isn't half-assed... i.e. analog sticks, not nubs; multitouch touchscreen, etc...
If they're actually shooting for VR support, I'm wondering if they're trying to compete more with the smartphone/mobile VR (Gear VR) instead of the "premium" VR of PC and PS4. Seems woefully under-powered to go head to head with PC and PS4. Could have an external processing solution built into their VR headset, if that's indeed a goal of theirs, I suppose.
It sounds fine for Nintendo production but I have to wonder if 3rd parties are actually going to be interested in scaling their games to meet NX specifications. My personal hope that Nintendo would once again be #1 *and* provide similar third party support as its competitors still seems distant based on these early reports, but I suppose we have to wait and see -- i.e. the hope is strong despite the odds.
If they're actually shooting for VR support, I'm wondering if they're trying to compete more with the smartphone/mobile VR (Gear VR) instead of the "premium" VR of PC and PS4. Seems woefully under-powered to go head to head with PC and PS4. Could have an external processing solution built into their VR headset, if that's indeed a goal of theirs, I suppose.
It sounds fine for Nintendo production but I have to wonder if 3rd parties are actually going to be interested in scaling their games to meet NX specifications. My personal hope that Nintendo would once again be #1 *and* provide similar third party support as its competitors still seems distant based on these early reports, but I suppose we have to wait and see -- i.e. the hope is strong despite the odds.
Streetpass on this thing could be huge.
Imagine your Wara Wara Plaza and MiiVerse feed filled with content from people you actually passed on the street.
Or imagine having full console-style multiplayer gaming in public. Like... Having a Smash Bros Tournament in Central Park using only one system. No need for multiple copies of the same game to play multiplayer when traveling.
It actually could catch on.
Imagine your Wara Wara Plaza and MiiVerse feed filled with content from people you actually passed on the street.
Or imagine having full console-style multiplayer gaming in public. Like... Having a Smash Bros Tournament in Central Park using only one system. No need for multiple copies of the same game to play multiplayer when traveling.
It actually could catch on.
Barry Burton
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It doesn't, and it certainly wouldn't for Nintendo right now. The market has proven over and over again to not be able to sustain three or more competing platforms. The Wii, a radically-different console, is the only real exception to this.
The PS4 and XBO are well-established at this point, and consumers have already bought into one or both of them, or the PC. Nintendo coming in at this stage offering a similar product is completely redundant, and would be well behind the eight ball. They'd get crushed, and lose a lot of money at the same time.
That's not to say that Nintendo making a direct competitor to Sony or Microsoft in the future wouldn't make sense, but now (especially now), is not the right time. The Wii U, with a year head-start, was their opportunity to do it and beat Sony/MS to market with a true next-gen console, and they let that opportunity pass. They've put themselves into way too tenuous a position in the console market to try something that risky.
They are going in a different direction out of necessity. I'm honestly a little surprised at the level of disappointment in this thread, even beyond the obvious knee-jerk reactions. Anyone who has followed Nintendo for even the slightest amount of time should have been fully prepared for the NX to be in the ballpark of what Eurogamer reported. Sony and Microsoft are going to keep doing their thing, and Nintendo is going to keep doing it their own way. For better or worse, that's how it is and how it's been.
gundamkyoukai
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Japanese games were never the problem at least not the big AAA ones.
It was the western ones come next year the west going to be making games on 4TF consoles .
Don't see them wanting to down port to something weaker than X1 unless the sales really take off .
WiiU is nowhere near 512gflops, its half that at best and a stock X1 isn't actively cooled therefore this isn't a stock X1. You can't just believe the parts of the rumour you want and ignore the rest.
Its so strange that you've argued for so long that WiiU was 176gflops yet now you claim WiiU is about 512Gflops to make this NX handheld sound bad, you're a strange one cyber.
Mithos
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Correct.
A bunch of people misinterpreting what some guy saw as the generic worth of the things he was hearing.
I sorta get the feeling it won't have a touchscreen at all.
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