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Eurogamer: NX = portable w/ carts, detachable controllers, Tegra, TV Out, no BC, Sept

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javadoze

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Whatever brings Monster hunter back on my tv. Also, Nintendo focusing on one platform instead of two would be pretty cool to see.

Fuck yes.

(On another note, Capcom also still has an unannounced Monster Hunter game. I'd freak out if it were for the NX.)
 

PantherLotus

Professional Schmuck
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Made this because I'm dumb.
 
Let's wait till the official reveal. It can be the best of both words. And nobody does handheld gaming like Nintendo. I think this way, they can hit both the Western console market, while appeasing Japanese on-the-go gaming sensibilities.

Nope. If this thing ends up being weaker than Xbox One is it DOA to the casual Western market. I can already tell AAA 3rd party support is going to be abysmal.
 

psyfi

Banned
Weight in which market ?
It won't be the western market since they won't be getting any AAA games .
With a handheld that under power compare to consoles .
You're basically saying Nintendo games don't have selling power in the west. Which is ridiculous. Nintendo machines have been primarily sold on the hype of Nintendo games ever since the N64, and arguably earlier.
 

Nimby

Banned
People don't want this? What is wrong about the idea? You have a console, and you have a handheld. It's more powerful than a Wii U, and will have a bigger library. What is there to not like about this idea?

I mean, the library thing is an 'if', but everything on paper looks like it would lead to this. Nintendo's handheld developers and console developers now have all their games on the same system.
 
Sounds really interesting. But what about the power? Is Tegra good? Can I get Wii U graphics in 1080p and with good AA? I'd be happy with that.
 

BocoDragon

or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Weight in which market ?
It won' be the western market since they won't be getting any AAA games .
With a handheld that under power comapre to consoles .
If Nintendo sells 10s of millions of a device that does plug into a TV, that might make them a more successful console manufacturer than Microsoft (at this point in time).

Who cares about AAA games. Assasin's Creed and Call of Duty ain't how Nintendo makes money.
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
Seriously? Lol.
ladies and gentlemen, GAF!

To be fair we have people in Nintendo threads claiming that they should get rid of friendcodes when talking about WiiU or how Nintendos indie relationships are horrible when almost anyone can develop for their system nowadays.

Its expected when you have people who dont really play on Nintendo consoles and keep just repeating everything negative they heard at some point.
This post makes no sense .
They are people who bought both Wii U and 3DS this won't be true with NX if they combine both .
This not taking account that hadhelds are dying compare to years ago .
This also not taking account how much time these system have been on the market .

You are trying a bit too hard there...WiiU and 3DS had incredible bad launches and were designed for a pre-smartphone world. NX will be the complete opposite. One device, all Nintendo games.

Potential is huge if they get the price and hardware right - their initial lineup will be huge. Alone Smash GotY w. Cloud/Bayo/Robin Amiibos and Zelda BotW will be bigger than anything you had on 3DS/WiiU launch.

Expecting a very strong first years first party lineup including new 3D Mario, Retro game, Pikmin 4 and co. - which is necessary unless they havent leant anything from 3DS/WiiU first years.
 
Sounds really interesting. But what about the power? Is Tegra good? Can I get Wii U graphics in 1080p and with good AA? I'd be happy with that.

Tegra assures that they'd get at least slightly better Wii U graphics. The range after that is up to Xbox One tier. After that though I have no real clue.

We'd need a reveal for that.
 

BDGAME

Member
Did you even look at how big the board is for that even cut in half let alone the fact that we are talking about something that'll half to be passively cooled in a handheld?

I mean really do you people even think about this?

Lets compare an Android Auto board to what needs to be in the NX handheld.

The board? Ignore it.
Look the "2 Tegra X1" model. It have 1 TFlops with 2 X1. That is 0,5 TF for chip, what is exactly what X1 can have right now. And we know that X1 is used in smaller boards than what we see in that screen.

Like I said before. Nintendo can create the handled with a underclocked Parker that consumes less power and when docked for TV it can use the full power.
 
You're basically saying Nintendo games don't have selling power in the west. Which is ridiculous. Nintendo machines have been primarily sold on the hype of Nintendo games ever since the N64, and arguably earlier.

And Nintendo home consoles have sold less each succeeding generation with Wii being the only outlier. This looks like they are waving the white flag on that market by not even bothering to make a home console.
 
My thoughts if true are it will do great with the handheld market if priced sub $300 (hopefully around $200). Not so hot in the home console space. But I could be wrong, need more details.

I suppose it makes sense though given that the console market is saturated and new iterational jump is set to happen next year, putting Nintendo in an odd spot. Seems the Wii-U's odd timing may have started a mild snowball effect.
 
People don't want this? What is wrong about the idea? You have a console, and you have a handheld. It's more powerful than a Wii U, and will have a bigger library. What is there to not like about this idea?

Some players want bleeding-edge-PC in a console box at the expense of everything else. We already have PC, Sony and MS offering this, so I think it's nice that Nintendo is seemingly going a different route.

Made this because I'm dumb.

I love it.
 
If Nintendo sells 10s of millions of a device that does plug into a TV, that might make them a more successful console manufacturer than Microsoft (at this point in time).

Who cares about AAA games. Assasin's Creed and Call of Duty ain't how Nintendo makes money.

People who buy gaming systems.
 

Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
You realize we are talking like 5 watts for a passively cooled handheld these days right?

I feel like this thread is a bunch of console people that haven't ever looked into the mobile world that deeply lol

Yeah heh, i'm pretty much a console guy. Haven't touched a handheld since first gen PSP, and i don't play on phones.

I don't know much, so please help me out!
 
All of the hideous fan made concept art shown thus far makes me shudder at how ugly the actual product will look like. And I thought the Wii U pad was the ugliest controller in recent times...
 
Pull on the nostalgia strings

Have a kid playing the original Super Mario Bros on the TV
His mum calls him "Little Timmy time to get in the car!"
"Coming mum!" -takes NX out of the dock and continues playing Super Mario Bros on the handheld.
While in the car he switches to Super Mario NX, they arrive at a friends house where he places the NX in their dock and a bunch of kids all look happy playing Super Mario NX together using the new controllers.

Demonstrates what the system is and markets it to a wide audience.
There's probably a reason I didn't study marketing
 
So it's going to be an under-powered and overheating tablet with removable controls.
Pretty disappointed.

Have you used the Pixel C? I own one and it does not overheat and performs awesome. The pixel c goes toe to toe with the ipad and is one of the best tablets money can buy.

If the new Nintendo is getting the next gen version if that chip I'm in.
 
If I read it right, Nintendo officially exit the home console market.

But you also can play your portable at home, this is the plot twist.
 

Jubenhimer

Member
I have no idea why anyone would take Eurogamer's word like god. Yeah, they got 2 things right in the past, but that's no guarantee this is true. Like I said, it completely goes against what Nintendo had already laid out, and this sounds impractical as hell. Not to mention if this was true, Nintendo would already be cracking down on this. Credible or not, none of this is convincing. Let's wait until Nintendo actually gives more about the system before we act like Eurogamer is god.
 

theecakee

Member
Got called out in the Emily Rogers thread for saying the NX was a hybrid and being told that "we already know its not a hybrid"

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Kind of annoys me when people do that when you know nothing has actually been confirmed?

Yeah I think GAF does that a lot, maybe need to actually hear people out rather than just shut them down like they're not "worthy".

A guy posted a thread with an idea speculating on if console manufactures made like the NEO or Scorpio last year. The whole thread just blew up into people mocking him, posting stupid gifts, and over all most people didn't even bother to read the post. Like come on people, don't be jerks.
 
You're basically saying Nintendo games don't have selling power in the west. Which is ridiculous. Nintendo machines have been primarily sold on the hype of Nintendo games ever since the N64, and arguably earlier.

Nintendo has been lossing market share home consoles wise since 64 .
Wii was the outline to this but look at Wii u sales.
Handheld are dying market even in Japan but not as bad as the west .
So where is this nintendo selling power again ?
 
One thing that no one mentioned that's potentially HUGE.

VR DOCKS!

If the NX has a 1080p screen, dock is googles + input power.

If not, dock is PS VR like device.

COME ON people, be creative.
I wish that were true but I doubt it. Nintendo has poo pooed VR so many times that I just don't think they have any interest in the foreseeable future.

Even the big players in VR warn against children under certain ages using it, which is the kiss of death for any technology Nintendo would consider.
 

psyfi

Banned
And Nintendo home consoles have sold less each succeeding generation with Wii being the only outlier. This looks like they are waving the white flag on that market.
I mean, in a sense I think you're right. I don't think Nintendo is bending over backwards to get third party support. They're trying to exist alongside / separate from Sony and MS.
 

Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
This is like passing on a PS4 because it won't play PS3 games. This seems incredibly short sighted.

Exactly...they obviously werent going to bring powerPC and 3DS architecture forward. Maybe you'll get emulators for NES/SNES/N64 and all the handhelds bar 3DS on the machine, that'll be great.
 

Nzyme32

Member
Really not a fan of dropping BC. I was holding off on picking up a Wii U because I was certain whatever successor it had would be BC but now Nintendo is looking at missing two sales from me :/

This is the biggest red flag for me with any games console (which obviously has been the norm for a long time). Without practically guaranteed perpetuity, I don't feel inclined to invest in any ecosystem. I just don't like the idea of "disposable games" as I'd call it, when gaming hardware is at a point where reliability & support over long periods isn't assured, as well as no way to carry the games forward to future hardware. It could be something they announce though.

I think at this point I'm purely digital, so that also comes with having to determine how trustworthy, reliable and well supported online infrastructure are along with their policies since these are games you "own" at a respective companies whim
 

BocoDragon

or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
come on son
Why? The math is pretty simple.

If Nintendo's handheld fortunes are channeled into what is also a home console, that makes them a player in home console mindshare. (And vice versa)

You can even delete the Wii U from that equation. If everyone who'd just buy a Nintendo portable got a console out of the deal, that's a contender of a console.
 

aBarreras

Member
Nintendo has been lossing market share home consoles wise since 64 .
Wii was the outline to this but look at Wii u sales.
Handheld are dying market even in Japan but not as bad as the west .
So where is this nintendo selling power again ?

well considering Splatoon outsold halo 5, the selling power is there, you just dont want to see it
 

Mihos

Gold Member
I wish that were true but I doubt it. Nintendo has poo pooed VR so many times that I just don't think they have any interest in the foreseeable future.

Even the big players in VR warn against children under certain ages using it, which is the kiss of death for any technology Nintendo would consider.

The 3DS has the same warnings.
 

Tarin02543

Member
If the unit needs to be plugged into a base station, how will the controller look like? Perhaps the left and right controller can be plugged together, like so:

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I like the hybrid idea, but I don't like the idea of holding the entire unit (including screen) into my hands while playing on my tv.

thoughts?
 

Sinfamy

Member
Let's wait till the official reveal. It can be the best of both words. And nobody does handheld gaming like Nintendo. I think this way, they can hit both the Western console market, while appeasing Japanese on-the-go gaming sensibilities.
Sure, but if it releases with the Nvidia X1 in it's current state, it will be under-powered in comparison to the PS4 & XBO (not to mention Scorpio & Neo).
Impressive for a handheld, but the dream of some semblance of performance parity across the big 3 is gone.
I hope they at least provide a good SDK/NDK for easy x86 porting.
 

anothertech

Member
Something something "Sega Game Gear" something something "you did it Nintendo!"

lol

I'll probably get three of these things.

Very doubtful there will be much in the way of third party gaming. That said, an Xbone in the palm of your hand would be pretty awesome for a handheld.
 
Xbox One hardware sales: ~20 million

PS4 hardware sales: ~40 million

Wii U + 3DS hardware sales: ~12 million + ~60 million = ~72 million

This actually makes a LOT of business sense.

Bro, you are dreaming small

Pokemon Go + Wii + Nokia 3610 = 75M + 101M + 150M multiplied by a factor of 16 because its 2016 = 5 BILLION

You heard it here first folks, the NX will sell 5 billion
 

Kevin Atomic

Neo Member
If this turns out to be true, it could be a really interesting time ahead. I'm torn if this is a great idea or something that is only interesting on paper.
 
If the unit needs to be plugged into a base station, how will the controller look like? Perhaps the left and right controller can be plugged together, like so:

V0n3QNU.jpg


I like the hybrid idea, but I don't like the idea of holding the entire unit (including screen) into my hands while playing on my tv.

thoughts?

A pro controller may exist for multiplayer purposes or as an alternative.
 
A few of us believe the dock holds the answers.

For power guaranteed to be greater than Wii U? Not really. The dock could simply be a shell that allows TV playback and NX would still be more powerful than Wii U.

And this is assuming it's using a vanilla X1 chip, which it clearly won't be.
 
I'm not convinced there won't be a console version, like a roided up version of the docking station. The important thing is that they share the same library. Also, the dual screen gimmick lives on, obviously. Actually, I would love it if the dock was some kind of premium/luxury accessory that blows the NX up in a substantial way.
 
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