Price is the main thing, if they have it to expensive than the system will flounder If it's priced right than it could really take off but that also depends on the software they are releasing and the lack of fucking it up which I am not convinced they can do anymore especially after the Wii U.
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Eurogamer: NX = portable w/ carts, detachable controllers, Tegra, TV Out, no BC, Sept
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Huh? Actively cooled most likely means that it is clocked not far off of how it is in the Shield console, and at those frequencies an X1 will deliver 400+ GFLOPs -- as opposed to the 176 Wii U GPU GLOPs, which are also on a much older architecture and harder to effectively use.
What am I missing?
Nothing good except ZombiU came from this.
Probably good for like Mario Re-Maker NX to have WiiU like dual screen function.
so if this sells for full "console" price ($299ish) what will happen in multi-gamer households? You have to come up with a "share the portable game time" schedule? "i'm home sick i'll play Zel...oh shit! my brother took it with him"
just seems strange...
i like the idea...but this is where i get stuck thinking it's also a bad idea...
just seems strange...
i like the idea...but this is where i get stuck thinking it's also a bad idea...
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
For the curious: shield TV teardown and dmesg (kernel logs): http://forum.xda-developers.com/shield-tv/general/teardown-reverse-engineering-t3268452
Fantastical
Death Prophet
This is what I'm worried about. I just don't believe they aren't going to sell two versions... Console and handheld. That really felt like what they were training their devs for with New 3DS.
I keep thinking of the Surface, iPad, etc. that have this technology to bind keyboards in swiftly. It's just crazy we have this sort of technology now!
I mean, the thing could just be a flat out tablet (in an elongated oval-ish rectangle shape) in a shell protective case (or even that plasticy, folio type that Apple makes), but the front and back separate leaving you the controllers that have a slide analog stick, D-Pad, a touch pad, A/B/X/Y, and your scroll wheels. That would be sooooo awesome to take around! You could also get collectible case controllers!
I'll definitely try to mock that one up tomorrow unless I get beaten!
Again, I really like the changes you made to it! It looks slick to me!
I mean, the thing could just be a flat out tablet (in an elongated oval-ish rectangle shape) in a shell protective case (or even that plasticy, folio type that Apple makes), but the front and back separate leaving you the controllers that have a slide analog stick, D-Pad, a touch pad, A/B/X/Y, and your scroll wheels. That would be sooooo awesome to take around! You could also get collectible case controllers!
I'll definitely try to mock that one up tomorrow unless I get beaten!
I don't know. This would be pretty slick. Given a few alterations like a proper D-Pad.
Again, I really like the changes you made to it! It looks slick to me!
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
This would be a fairly significant step up based on what others in the thread have said earlier.
Yea I wonder if ppl realize that hard disk drives are considered old news and ssd is all the rage now.
Hard disk dive = spinning.
Kind of makes ppl lol at cartridges seems out the loop.
Maybe when docked it has WiiU function for the WiiU remakes coming no?
prag16
Banned
Yeah I speculated something like this on a previous page; use the dock for extra cooling in some way so that the clocks can run much faster while docked without overheating or drawing too much power; you can get your headroom there for 1080p and/or some extra effects compared to the downclocked 720 presentation when playing handheld only.
If selling the same game twice, once for handheld mode and once for TV mode, is their plan it's a terrible one. In all honesty I can't imagine Nintendo going down that route.
outunderthestars
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I don't see any way that it is backwards compatible with the 3DS.
I could see the dock having expandable memory ports (a way to transfer media/saves) a/v output, ethernet, and power. if attaching to the dock increases power i see that as a problem for developers. the dock could have audio processing as a way to output surround sound and even a video upscaler and encoder for recording gameplay.
Hmmm....This does achieve the shared library and the 'account for different sensibilities of different markets' goals. It does leave me sort of worried as to what sort of software we'll be getting--all handheld focused or all console focus or just a bad balance with games I want to play one way being designed another way--but that was always going to be a worry with the way they've been talking.
ShockingAlberto
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I don't know. This would be pretty slick. Given a few alterations like a proper D-Pad.
Hey, I missed this post.
True. Even though I'm really down on it. If it's $50 maybe I'd go for one.
eh, not really
Buggy Loop
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U mad? 3DS, which arguably was "low tech" for its launch era was 250$.
I don't know. This would be pretty slick. Given a few alterations like a proper D-Pad.
Slick, but a complete waste of money for people who like home console gaming and couldn't give two shits about handheld gaming.
That game wasn't all that good. Off-screen play on Wii U was nice though.
recklesscognition
Member
Can I just play Nintendo games on my PS4? Thanks Nintendo.
In this very moment I am confused and torned
if this will be a 3ds successor and they will do a home later on, ok.
If this will have the supplemental device to power its specs when using it at home on the tv, I am excited.
If.this is all they are proposing as successor of the wiiu, this is simply a dongle hdmi for a (good) portable and to me signs their definitive exit from the home segment
Pair it up with their new mobile strategy and to me Nintendo is almost dead
if this will be a 3ds successor and they will do a home later on, ok.
If this will have the supplemental device to power its specs when using it at home on the tv, I am excited.
If.this is all they are proposing as successor of the wiiu, this is simply a dongle hdmi for a (good) portable and to me signs their definitive exit from the home segment
Pair it up with their new mobile strategy and to me Nintendo is almost dead
With those specs and internal knowledge of 3DS hardware it should be possible to emulate I think? Still, it's probably not likely but it would be nice.
Works well with my pro controller on battle dojo.
Simbabbad
Member
Wouldn't it do multiplayer like a home console when docked? Otherwise, what's the point?
U mad really?
I think it's pretty obvious this is gonna have a lot of competition with ps4 and xbone already close to 250.
ZombiePlatypus
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Not necessarily, especially for stuff like Quick Spawning & Inkstrikes. There's also gyro controls to consider, but that can easily be incorporated to a regular controller.
Shpeshal Nick
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Everyone? No.
There was only a small handful of us in #teamhybrid and we were pretty consistently shot down by the majority of posters who defied logic to believe this wouldn't be the case.
Main reason "But Iwata said no hybrid!"
Despite #teamhybrid posting proof of the fact that Nintendo has said one thing and done another FOR EVER.
broncobuster
Banned
Mario Maker is playable on the gamepad alone. Only caveat with this hypothetical NX concept is needing to grab the tablet when you build levels. Personally, that's how I already play. I use my pro controller most of the time.
How will it do that when it's docked? When it's docked it's sitting in the docking station and you aren't going to be able to use the touchscreen. That's why the controller sections come off, right. Otherwise what would be the point.
That's assuming it even has a touchscreen. Why would it with this design?
His comment just makes me think they really have no idea what they are talking about, and just have some small confirmed details leak from a trusted dev source, then filled in the gaps with rumour and speculation.
Hope there will be a LE bundle with Zelda BotW for less than 300 bucks.
One benefit of it being a handheld means that we will likely get way more bundles, consoles and LEs compared to their consoles in the past. Faceplates better come back as well.
One benefit of it being a handheld means that we will likely get way more bundles, consoles and LEs compared to their consoles in the past. Faceplates better come back as well.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
It's a different kind of fugly. Mildly more tolorable. Better than the "putting lipstick on a pig" philosophy that permeates PC hardware design.
No, as I recall, they thought it sounded silly. Like "who would buy that?"
But when I say many years ago, I'm talking mid-2000s. It was a long time ago.
In any case, I don't have the first clue how it will do. .
I got you brah.
Handheld:
Console/Dock:
LOL HOLY
The Good: Unified console and handheld library which means games, games, and more games with more frequent releases.
The Bad: Not the graphic leap many hoped and dreamed for. Brilliant move for portable loving Japan, but not so much for mobile gaming North America.
The Ugly: Say goodbye to competent ports of big games like COD:AW (48GB), with cartridges that only have 32GB capacity, not to mention the hit in visuals.
Figured it would be a hybrid, and the library potential makes me excited. Just not crazy about the possibility of dealing with a lack of 3rd party support again. However, 3DS still has 3rd party support and this is technically still a portable. Ugh... My poor brain.
The Bad: Not the graphic leap many hoped and dreamed for. Brilliant move for portable loving Japan, but not so much for mobile gaming North America.
The Ugly: Say goodbye to competent ports of big games like COD:AW (48GB), with cartridges that only have 32GB capacity, not to mention the hit in visuals.
Figured it would be a hybrid, and the library potential makes me excited. Just not crazy about the possibility of dealing with a lack of 3rd party support again. However, 3DS still has 3rd party support and this is technically still a portable. Ugh... My poor brain.
outunderthestars
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Yea, a handful of the same posters would post that as a way to day that #teamhybrid were being stupid. Shockingly I don't see them posting in here today.
yeah battle dojo is not indicative of the main game. they gimped it specifically with that in mind. never mind that the pro controller doesn't have a gyro which is a crucial aspect of splatoon.
Is my phone also a hybrid system?
Pro controller works well and a lot of people disable gyro anyway. I can't stand playing the game with the awful gyro controls.
If the system is substantially more powerful than the Wii U when docked, even when not it will likely still be more powerful, I don't see the issue. Should be enough power for 1080p Nintendo games.
Nintendo was never going to make a console to supplant the XBO or PS4, so why bother trying to play by their rules.
Most of Nintendo's games really don't lose anything between console and handheld already, and I think it's clear that ports like Xenoblade illustrate that console titles can make the transition to handhelds without losing anything integral in the process. I understand the concern, but I'm not seeing any kind of big change in their general philosophy.
Hell, this thing is probably launching with Breath of the Wild, which is probably the most complex Zelda game ever.
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