This show would be impossible for me to watch if Mr Peanutbutter wasn't there. I remember thinking he was annoying, but now I realize the show needs that kind of character. He's basically the one thing stopping the show from being too bleak and depressing.
Episode 12.
Damn, we were THIS close to getting the scene where Bojack kills himself. Interesting that it seems he has a daughter, from what we saw in the underwater episodes, that's one of the things that might actually bring him some happiness.
There is just no fucking way that they'll redeem his character though. Right? At this point, with what happened to Sarah Lynn... He just seems so irredeemable to the point where I think actually giving this character anything but a tragic ending would seem contrived to me. Maybe that's just me, though.
Oh fuck...
What if they have him jumping off a bridge like Secretariat...?
Last ep spoilers:
So Is todd one of the few Aesexual characetrs? or is he just confused about his sexuality? still it's nice seeing such a sexually grey character
Episode 12.
Damn, we were THIS close to getting the scene where Bojack kills himself. Interesting that it seems he has a daughter, from what we saw in the underwater episodes, that's one of the things that might actually bring him some happiness.
get that fetus
kill dat fetus
get that fetus
kill dat fetus
Are you really that hard up for a scene in which the lead kills himself? How exactly would that be satisfying?
I like this show because it's depressing and a bummer
Because I've now seen 3 seasons of him being a depressed mess that ruins everything around him, the only logical end point for him is to kill himself.
That's a somewhat disheartening take on life in general.
I don't get why so many people try to extrapolate someone's viewpoint of life from an opinion about a TV show.
Do you think I'd want Bojack to kill himself if this was real life? Do you think I'd want Khaleesi to travel to another country and murder everyone so she could take over if this was real life?
I'm not saying you'd want BoJack to do that, but you see it as "the only logical option." That translates to real life.
(Pro-tip though, depression isn't logical.)
(Pro-tip though, again, I'm not talking about real life people.)
But you are though, whether you mean to or not. If you literally can't see any option for someone in BoJack's position other than to kill themselves, why would your opinion differ if you weren't talking about a character on a show?
And if your opinion does differ when talking about someone in real life, then clearly you can see another option for BoJack too.
How is saying that it's a logical conclusion to his character saying it's the ONLY option?
You said it was the only option, not me. Well, "only logical conclusion," anyway, same thing.
I guess we'll just agree to disagree on this'un.
How is saying that it's a logical conclusion to his character saying it's the ONLY option? Let me ask you this, in the episode when he closed his eyes and was about to kill himself, did you think to yourself, "why is he doing this? It doesn't make any sense"? No, you understood why he would do that in that moment, it was a logical thing for someone like Bojack to do in that moment.
Sarah Lynn dying was a logical conclusion to her story arc but just because it was logical didn't mean it was the ONLY option for her. She could have not gotten off the wagon but she didn't and because she did, it was only logical that she'd OD after taking every possible drug for weeks straight.
If Bojack can redeem himself and actually change who he is, then he has more options to where his character can go, but if he continues down the road he has been on for 3 seasons, then it's completely logical for him to kill himself and it'd make for great television as well.
And I must stress, just because the way you think about characters and real people doesn't differ, doesn't mean others don't. I root for anything that gives as better television, I don't care if it's the good or bad guy, I just want more drama. I'm sure I don't have to explain how this isn't something I want in real life.
If he ended up taking that route, it would be more impactful if he did turn things around and improved on how he is as a person but only to end up just as alone because he chased away everything with actual importance in his life. Only to take a spiraling crash back to who he believes is truly himself and finally takes his own life.
Otherwise this type of ending its just all on him, his crappy choices, and it feels like it absolves the people who cared about him from any fault. If he did truly change but then was completely and utterly rejected... well, it kinda speaks on how we as a society treat those in need of help and due to our own lack of action we end up causing more harm to them.
To me, that is a way more depressing ending.
The abortion episode caught me off guard, and I laughed a bit more than I feel comfortable talking about. "Blapp blapp pew pew!" I sort of saw Sarah Lynn's death coming, but it was still hard to watch. Todd's coming out really surprised me, but looking back it makes more sense.
At the end, When Bojack started speeding up, I was saying "what the hell" out loud. I expected something like that would happen eventually, but even though it's just a show, I was getting legitimately upset by the idea of Bojack committing suicide. I'm not sure if I enjoyed the previous seasons more or less than 3, but I love the show and I'm looking forward to what happens next.
Am I reading the reactions wrong but is there with this season much less buzz then about Season 02?
How is saying that it's a logical conclusion to his character saying it's the ONLY option? Let me ask you this, in the episode when he closed his eyes and was about to kill himself, did you think to yourself, "why is he doing this? It doesn't make any sense"? No, you understood why he would do that in that moment, it was a logical thing for someone like Bojack to do in that moment.
Sarah Lynn dying was a logical conclusion to her story arc but just because it was logical didn't mean it was the ONLY option for her. She could have not gotten off the wagon but she didn't and because she did, it was only logical that she'd OD after taking every possible drug for weeks straight.
If Bojack can redeem himself and actually change who he is, then he has more options to where his character can go, but if he continues down the road he has been on for 3 seasons, then it's completely logical for him to kill himself and it'd make for great television as well.
And I must stress, just because the way you think about characters and real people doesn't differ, doesn't mean others don't. I root for anything that gives as better television, I don't care if it's the good or bad guy, I just want more drama. I'm sure I don't have to explain how this isn't something I want in real life.
You have a very weird idea of "Great Television".
A dude killing himself after three - now four - seasons of struggling with depression is not great television. That's just depressing as fuck. Suicide is not noble. Jesus.
Anyhow. We're not going to come to any sort of passive agreement to disagree on this, so I'll just drop it.
You didn't have to make this post to drop it, you know.
You didn't have to make this post to drop it, you know.
Bojack won't be happy no matter what he accomplishes. He sabotages himself. He keeps abusing everyone around him. It's all the same stuff from season 1 recycled over and over again, but it doesn't have any impact anymore. The whole show just sounds like some writer making bad self-analysis at this point. It's just masturbation. The characters just tell you their problems. Show, don't tell? It doesn't work as a drama or a comedy anymore. It's just...completely uninteresting. I should have bailed after the first season.
Bojack won't be happy no matter what he accomplishes. He sabotages himself. He keeps abusing everyone around him. It's all the same stuff from season 1 recycled over and over again, but it doesn't have any impact anymore. The whole show just sounds like some writer making bad self-analysis at this point. It's just masturbation. The characters just tell you their problems. Show, don't tell? It doesn't work as a drama or a comedy anymore. It's just...completely uninteresting. I should have bailed after the first season.
Bojack won't be happy no matter what he accomplishes. He sabotages himself. He keeps abusing everyone around him. It's all the same stuff from season 1 recycled over and over again, but it doesn't have any impact anymore.