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[MajorMane]

It is really baffling how the most lucrative IP in gaming doesn't have a wealth of great programmers modellers to choose from. Nintendo really needs to have one of their sub-studios lend a hand.

Aren't at least the Pokemon models currently in the games higher fidelity (or something like that) than they would actually need be? I've heard that thrown around before. If true, then the models themselves aren't too much of a problem.

Well, if they're correct about Game Freak developing, it couldn't really plausibly be anything but Sun/Moon HD, could it?

A port of a game they released to new hardware, which they've never done before, seems just as likely as a remake of an old game (Gen 1, Gen 4), IMO. We're not expecting a spin off if Game Freak is developing, but it's possible. Game Freak has not exactly "followed the formula" with Pokemon main game releases the last two generations.

A Pokemon game by GF is interesting. They're hardly ending a generation within 1 year, but at the same time, this would cut off compatibility between the same generations (besides Pokebank). Also, the director cut/sequel games have never been released so close after the initial game since Generation II, though I guess it isn't impossible.

That's exactly what PokeBank is made for now, though. If Game Freak is developing a title for NX so early and it's a main game, then there's going to be a first here. Either their first port, the first generation to cross hardware lines, the quickest generation yet in under a year...

The biggest surprise really is that Game Freak would move on to new hardware so quickly.

 

[Roo]

Where's Pikmin 4, eh?

The only question that really matters!

 

[mrmickfran]

I said mainline. Nintendo sees Prime as a spinoff series. Retro has never made a 2D Metroid game, which are considered the "mainline" series of games helmed by R&D1 and/or Sakamoto in Japan.

lolwut

Prime is certainly mainline. I've never heard of a franchise where the spin-off is more successful and far more demanding than its mainline series.

 

[BY2K]

Oh what the hell. Just say it.

 

[Oswen]

Mario was expected but Pokémon so soon? From GF?

I wouldn't really expect Gen 8 so soon after Sun and Moon, a third version, sequel or somekind of remake is probably more likely.

Maybe Kanto re-remakes to cash in the Pokémon Go craze?

 

[J@hranimo]

If that Pokemon games REALLY means a Sun/Moon port then I'll wait for that instead of get a cheap 3ds in November

 

[Cleve]

Pokemon on NX

POKEMON ON NX

Pokemon Rumble NX. Gamefreak or not, my expectations aren't high.

 

[Oersted]

Look if they put it on NX that is all fine and great BUT WHAT IT REALLY NEEDS IS AN ONLINE COOP MODE!!!!!!!!!!!

How on earth this game has 84 versions over the last 20 years but somehow, magically, incomprehensibly does not have a full fledged title that allows you to walk around the world with a friend or 3...just baffling.

Online on consoles wasn't really a thing in 1996.

And how many 2D coops are there? Tristoy?

 

[OrbitalBeard]

Oh what the hell. Just say it.

Yeah, that type of crap is annoying. If you're not going to actually say anything, don't respond.

 

[Eradicate]

God damn if they could get a portable more powerful than Wii U for less than 200 quid I'd lose it. That'd be insane value.

Absolutely! No kidding at all! I believe they can do it with the types of hardware available now!

They need to hurry and announce the NX so I can know if it's true and what's the different between it and the 3DS version.

Hopefully people can pay close attention to the next few Sun/Moon official releases and such and see if they mention NX! I'd like to know what the differences are as well!

Well, if they're correct about Game Freak developing, it couldn't really plausibly be anything but Sun/Moon HD, could it?

One would hope not! Pokemon TCG? Is that the only other non-mainline Pokething they did? (And no, I seriously don't think it'd be that!)

 

[Spieler Eins]

We can see a decline for most wiiu games though, doesn't really tell that much.

It tells you that the game's aren't very good and no one but hardcore Nintendo followers would ever want them.

NSMBU wasn't super different from Wii, didn't help. 2D platformers still sell well on 3DS for example.

Even on handhelds the series went from 30 Mil to 10 Mil. This is not ,,doing well", the branding's slowly killing interest in the franchise and further losing hardware selling power. And what else did ,,wellt" on 3DS? Certainly not Chibi Robo, lol. That trashy Yoshi game one 3DS is also one of the worst selling in its franchise. This nostalgia-riding genre with phoned-in iterations needs to be over, unless they are doing something drastically different.

 

[Dark Cloud]

Oh what the hell. Just say it.

Lol is this guy Ideaman??

 

[Ansatz]

DKC went from 5million seller+ to barely reaching a million a couple of years after TF launch. NSMB completely failed to sell WiiUs in an adequate manner. People are tired of this shit.

NSMB 2 and SM3DL are two of the best selling 3DS games. Both games released during crucial periods of the system (first holiday post price cut, alongside 3DS XL launch) and are partially responsible for turning the system around.

Your logic is consistently inconsistent.

 

[Frodo]

Not counting Zelda, I'm also more excited about Pikmin 4, tbh.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Oh what the hell. Just say it.

Maybe if somebody else say it THEN he will say it. For now he just wink because... well because why not? lol

 

[Eradicate]

Something's leaky in Europe anymore! Eurogamer and now MCV. Who's spilling some beans over there?

 

[KingSnake]

Why turning this into a Miyamoto vs MCV thing? Did Miyamoto say anything that contradicts MCV?

I was just answering to the guy that turned this into a Miyamoto vs MCV when you jumped in.

Maybe if somebody else say it THEN he will say it. For now he just wink because... well because why not? lol

Maybe you should really take a break from rumour threads.

 

[brinstar]

I'm gonna end up double-dipping on Sun/Moon, aren't I?

 

[Sölf]

Pokémon is in a strange position right now as they just started a new generation. I wonder what a 2017 NX game would be.

Obviously it will be the enhancend NX only version titled Pokemon Star, the first enhanced game since Platinum!

 

[Oersted]

Something's leaky in Europe anymore! Eurogamer and now MCV. Who's spilling some beans over there?

 

[Maintenance]

I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[Trago]

All that first party on one device has me legit shook.

 

[psyfi]

We can be suspicious if we want. It dont affect you do it?

This is an oddly childish and irresponsible response.

 

[decoyplatypus]

I can believe Mario and Pokemon are coming within 6 months of launch. Nintendo likely planned for Mario to be a launch game (a goal we already knew they had conceded), and Pokemon could be a port. What's less clear is whether they land close enough to launch to generate enthusiasm for the NX. I *think* this will work out just fine. Nintendo will be able to point to Zelda plus a few odds and ends for launch, and Mario will be far enough along to appear in pre-launch NX ads.

 

[Darryl M R]

A mainline series on the NX? I would bite. Especially if I can play it on the control while I'm playing my other console.

 

[Nirolak]

Something's leaky in Europe anymore! Eurogamer and now MCV. Who's spilling some beans over there?

I imagine it's the same company who leaks their entire game line-up every year.

 

[foxuzamaki]

It tells you that the game's aren't very good and no one but hardcore Nintendo followers would ever want them.



Even on handhelds the series went from 30 Mil to 10 Mil. This is not ,,doing well", the branding's slowly killing interest in the franchise and further losing hardware selling power. And what else did ,,wellt" on 3DS? Certainly not Chibi Robo, lol. That trashy Yoshi game one 3DS is also one of the worst selling in its franchise. This nostalgia-riding genre with phoned-in iterations needs to be over, unless they are doing something drastically different.

Stop, you're obviously commenting on something you dont know much at all about

 

[Okami Haundo]

So Miyamoto change his mind and thinks i would be only take 1y instead of the possible 2years. (knowing that most games in the past are delayed by them).

He even talks about maybe at E3 they will share something, so he even doesn't know if it's ready to show it at next E3.

I think you're falling into the trap of taking his words too literally. He stated that a new Mario could be ready within a year or two, and that it might be shown at E3 2017. Those aren't definitive statements and they shouldn't be taken as such. A new Mario game could be released tomorrow and it wouldn't invalidate his statements because they weren't meant to be definite.

 

[Hot Coldman]

anyone else keep reading the title as "MVC" and getting excited

 

[casey_contra]

Obviously it will be the enhancend NX only version titled Pokemon Star, the first enhanced game since Platinum!

I like Eclipse better!

 

[Oersted]

I can believe Mario and Pokemon are coming within 6 months of launch. Nintendo likely planned for Mario to be a launch game (a goal we already knew they had conceded), and Pokemon could be a port. What's less clear is whether they land close enough to launch to generate enthusiasm for the NX. I *think* this will work out just fine. Nintendo will be able to point to Zelda plus a few odds and ends for launch, and Mario will be far enough along to appear in pre-launch NX ads.

Driveclub appeared in PS4 launch ads lol

 

[Oxn]

I'm gonna end up double-dipping on Sun/Moon, aren't I?

More like quad dipping.

 

[Jezan]

Didn't Nintendo say something similar for Wii U launch? (Not Mario or Pokemon thought)and look how it turned out. Nintendo I will Believe it when I see it.

 

[timberger]

Activision bring the Skylanders and Warners bring the Legos I assume... ugh... I expect third party support for this thing to be garbage.

 

[mrmickfran]

All that first party on one device has me legit shook.

Same

Monolith vs. Game Freak vs. Intelligent Systems for best RPG

EPD Tokyo vs. Retro vs. Hal Laboratory for best Platformer

And all the Zelda, Animal Crossing and Mario Kart shenanigans.

This may be the first Nintendo console that honestly doesn't need 3rd party support.

 

[casey_contra]

I imagine it's the same company who leaks their entire game line-up every year.

 

[Oersted]

Didn't Nintendo say something similar for Wii U launch? (Not Mario or Pokemon thought)and look how it turned out. Nintendo I will Believe it when I see it.

This is not Nintendo saying it.

They only talked about having Mario at launch, which was true.

Pokemon was never in the cards.

 

[Eradicate]

I imagine it's the same company who leaks their entire game line-up every year.

LOL!!! You're probably right! I didn't think about them. Our good friends!

 

[linkandzelda]

GameFreak makes Pokemon spinoff titles themselves frequently, so if we're getting a NX game out of them it's probably not a sun/moon port. "A Pokemon game" can be a lot of things.

But if they surprise us by having the first cross-gen Pokemon release or heck, even put out a 3rd version on the NX or something I'm not gonna complain.

No they don't. Game Freak have never been a significant developer on any Pokémon spinoff.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Didn't Nintendo say something similar for Wii U launch? (Not Mario or Pokemon thought)and look how it turned out. Nintendo I will Believe it when I see it.

No, they did con us into thinking a Launch Window is 10 months long

 

[KingBroly]

I imagine it's the same company who leaks their entire game line-up every year.

Or maybe it's the company that never leaks stuff at all?

So much so that they're bursting from the seams

(I don't know anything, just speculating)

 

[Greddleok]

Other games that we don't know about.

So why are people saying they should stagger their games when it's unknown what else is coming out?

 

[Okami Haundo]

This may be the first Nintendo console that honestly doesn't need 3rd party support.

This is exactly what I was thinking when we first caught wind of the "hybrid" rumors. Say what you will about Nintendo, but they definitely have the talent and capacity to churn out first party games faster than either Sony or Microsoft ever could.

I just don't see the value in Nintendo chasing third party ports either. Both Xbox and Playstation fight to the death over those titles, what space does that leave for Nintendo? At best the NX will be capable of supporting third party ports of games, but I can't see it being their main priority.

 

[bman94]

Shit is not adding up. An upgrade to cell phone users? But the thing can run Zelda Breath of the Wild? It's not like cell phone users need that type of power.

 

[Caipirinha]

They need to find a way to capitalise on the success of Pokemon GO by bringing a non-pathetic % of those people into the fold of mainstream Pokemon games.

 

[N.Grim]

It tells you that the game's aren't very good and no one but hardcore Nintendo followers would ever want them.



Even on handhelds the series went from 30 Mil to 10 Mil. This is not ,,doing well", the branding's slowly killing interest in the franchise and further losing hardware selling power. And what else did ,,wellt" on 3DS? Certainly not Chibi Robo, lol. That trashy Yoshi game one 3DS is also one of the worst selling in its franchise. This nostalgia-riding genre with phoned-in iterations needs to be over, unless they are doing something drastically different.

The fact that 3DS and Wii U sold 70 million units against the 250 million of DS and Wii could have something to do with it

 

[MajorMane]

They need to find a way to capitalise on the success of Pokemon GO by bringing a non-pathetic % of those people into the fold of mainstream Pokemon games.

Re-re-makes of Gen 1. Pokemon nostalgia is a damn strong thing.

But a lot of the Pokemon Go hype will have died by then, so it might not matter.

 

[KingBroly]

I still think $150 is what this is gonna cost.

 

[Octavianus]

I really hope this works out well for them. I've always loved Nintendo's output so I have no doubt I'll be happy with it either way though.

 

[18-Volt]

I wish people stop saying that Nintendo is catering to smartphone/casual crowd with NX. Nintendo is already catering to that crowd... by making smartphone games for smartphones. Do they really need to make a console to attract them? No, that ship is sailed and Nintendo is already on board of that ship with Miitomo and Pokémon Go.

This is an handheld. This will have pokémon, Mario, Zelda, Monster Hunter, Dragon Quest, Sonic, SMT and Yokai Watch. This is targeting "that" crowd. Not "other" crowd.