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[Skittzo0413]

I agree.
Smartphones seem to play in big part in NX design process.
I'm not sure I like it, but this is Nintendo's plan.

Nintendo has stated that their smartphone games are designed to expose more people to their IP and draw them to their consoles, and based on what they've made I have no reason to doubt that is their purpose. I don't really get what the NX would gain by being able to play smartphone games, even Nintendo's smartphone games. Everyone can already do that on their smartphones they have now.

I certainly get the desire and hook when you can have those smartphone games interact with NX software (like Miitomo letting you design your Miis on NX, or Pokemon GO interaction with a mainline game or another spin-off) but it just never sounded enticing or interesting to have the NX capable of simply playing smartphone games. Perhaps someone can explain why that is a desirable feature?

 

[Bronetta]

Nintendo has all these games ready for NX launch until they realise there will be a drought after a few months so they start delaying/hold back releases to spread them out.

 

[Dark Cloud]

That's what I mean, but having 2 versions doesn't mean it would be 'double work'

A 2D mobile game doesn't nearly as many resources to develop as a 3D console game.

They could have a backend save/progression system that works between the two easily.

This seems suspect to me.

If the tablet could run the full version, why would the dock even be needed? The thing could just have a video-out if that were the case, like a PSP. The fact that it has a TV dock makes me think there is processing horsepower inside the dock itself, which means differences in the home/portable versions.

The guys were talking about it in the Eurogamer topic. I guess the dock has something in it that would unlock more power from the handheld when it's placed in the dock. Something like that, but you'll have to ask them. Lol

 

[MacTag]

Every Nintendo console launch has sounded amazing up until the moment Nintendo announced the console.

Wii had a pretty killer launch and a packed consistent first year. So did SNES and GBA, not every system suffers the same pitfalls 3DS and Wii U did.

 

[Elfforkusu]

In line with what i was expecting:

Zelda
EAD Tokyo 3D Mario (last was 2013)
Pokemon Earth/Star/Galaxy/whatever
Smash 4 port
(...)

 

[Kouriozan]

Every Nintendo console launch has sounded amazing up until the moment Nintendo announced the console.

Not true, or you don't remember the Wii U's pathetic "line-up" and the "3DS has no games"

 

[TunaLover]

Nintendo has stated that their smartphone games are designed to expose more people to their IP and draw them to their consoles, and based on what they've made I have no reason to doubt that is their purpose. I don't really get what the NX would gain by being able to play smartphone games, even Nintendo's smartphone games. Everyone can already do that on their smartphones they have now.

I certainly get the desire and hook when you can have those smartphone games interact with NX software (like Miitomo letting you design your Miis on NX, or Pokemon GO interaction with a mainline game or another spin-off) but it just never sounded enticing or interesting to have the NX capable of simply playing smartphone games. Perhaps someone can explain why that is a desirable feature?

It's basically designed to capture a wider audience, people is most used to smartphone like interface, they love touch controlls. Also this design aligns with Ubisoft reports: it would be used for Just Dance, and it would be great for casuals. It would be a "brand new experience" like Pokemon Go.

 

[Skittzo0413]

It's basically designed to capture a wider audience, people is most used to smartphone like interface, they love touch controlls. Also this design aligns with Ubisoft reports: it would be used for Just Dance, and it would be great for casuals. It would be a "brand new experience" like Pokemon Go.

So you mean the benefit here is that it's similar to how smartphones look and play, not that it necessarily will play smartphone games that everyone has access to anyway? I agree with that I suppose. Simplicity is for sure a good selling point.

 

[SinCityAssassin]

Sure man, I'll bite.

 

[Exterminieren]

Game Freak released Crystal not long before the GBA's launch, but it wasn't a problem because you could play Crystal on your brand new GBA.

Game Freak released Emerald not long before the DS's launch, but it wasn't a problem because you could play Emerald on your brand new DS.

Game Freak released Black and White not long before the 3DS's launch, but it wasn't a problem because you could play Black and White on your brand new 3DS.

Game Freak are releasing Sun and Moon not long before the NX's launch. You won't be able to play these games on your new NX. That's a problem.

 

[joedick]

Not true, or you don't remember the Wii U's pathetic "line-up" and the "3DS has no games"

That was post-launch. Right now we are still before Nintendo has announced any games (save Zelda), let alone the system.

Remember when we were expecting Saint's Row for 3DS?

 

[Philippo]

Game Freak released Crystal not long before the GBA's launch, but it wasn't a problem because you could play Crystal on your brand new GBA.

Game Freak released Emerald not long before the DS's launch, but it wasn't a problem because you could play Emerald on your brand new DS.

Game Freak released Black and White not long before the 3DS's launch, but it wasn't a problem because you could play Black and White on your brand new 3DS.

Game Freak are releasing Sun and Moon not long before the NX's launch. You won't be able to play these games on your new NX. That's a problem.

Easily fixable by releasing Pokémon Star on NX.

 

[JB-the-Hunter]

Because it's only going to be a handheld. The expectation that Nintendo is also working on some sort of Neo-level hardcore gaming console also sharing the same codename is delusional. What you see is what you're getting.

We haven't actually "seen" anything though... how can you act like you know anything?

 

[James Scott]

I still think $150 is what this is gonna cost.

New 3DS is still 199, I can't imagine the NX will cost less than that

 

[Okami Haundo]

Easily fixable by releasing Pokémon Star on NX.

*whispers* I think that's what they meant to imply */end whispers*

 

[Father_Brain]

EA has PVZ and I'd argue sports games in general have casual draw.

PVZ, maybe, but I don't think sports games are casual in at all the same sense as the audience Nintendo targets.

 

[Defect]

Not appealing to PS4 fans just means no David Cage-esque games where we press X to Mario. Not a big loss.

We will get a Doug button instead.

 

[psyfi]

Every Nintendo console launch has sounded amazing up until the moment Nintendo announced the console.

You must be a lot younger than I am. Nintendo used to totally nail launches.

 

[hemo memo]

Game Freak released Crystal not long before the GBA's launch, but it wasn't a problem because you could play Crystal on your brand new GBA.

Game Freak released Emerald not long before the DS's launch, but it wasn't a problem because you could play Emerald on your brand new DS.

Game Freak released Black and White not long before the 3DS's launch, but it wasn't a problem because you could play Black and White on your brand new 3DS.

Game Freak are releasing Sun and Moon not long before the NX's launch. You won't be able to play these games on your new NX. That's a problem.

NX is not a typical handheld. Also we're not sure, they might port it to NX.

 

[AdanVC]

Nintendo has all these games ready for NX launch until they realise there will be a drought after a few months so they start delaying/hold back releases to spread them out.

Spoiler

You're probably right. Nintendo gonna Nintendo as always.

 

[James Scott]

This is the first Nintendo handheld without BC which might be why GF would move so quickly to it.

 

[Herb Alpert]

That was post-launch. Right now we are still before Nintendo has announced any games (save Zelda), let alone the system.

Remember when we were expecting Saint's Row for 3DS?

Yeah, the audience laughed when they announced this on stage.

 

[GDGF]

Wii had a pretty killer launch and a packed consistent first year. So did SNES and GBA, not every system suffers the same pitfalls 3DS and Wii U did.

NES did too.

Pretty much the only ones with a "bad" launch were the ones you mentioned. Maybe N64, but it also launched with one of the best games of all time, so...

 

[BRocknRolla]

That was post-launch. Right now we are still before Nintendo has announced any games (save Zelda), let alone the system.

Remember when we were expecting Saint's Row for 3DS?

That's a thing that actually happened? Seriously?

 

[Malakai]

I don't know if I can genuinely trust Nintendo. I mean they are basically abandoning both the 3DS and the Wii U. It is like the N64 and Wii again.

 

[Angry Chair]

I don't know if I can genuinely trust Nintendo. I mean they are basically abandoning both the 3DS and the Wii U. It is like the N64 and Wii again.

Would you prefer they kept on supporting two sinking ships?

 

[Dark Cloud]

I don't know if I can genuinely trust Nintendo. I mean they are basically abandoning both the 3DS and the Wii U. It is like the N64 and Wii again.

The 3DS has been on the market for 5 years...how are they abandoning something that's put its time in?

And the Wii U is dead. They have to move on from Wii U. They're running a business.

 

[Lights and Waves]

I told y'all the FF6 remake was coming to NX!

 

[pretty done]

I don't know if I can genuinely trust Nintendo. I mean they are basically abandoning both the 3DS and the Wii U. It is like the N64 and Wii again.

And fucking Sony, they don't even support the PS2 or PS3 anymore WTF? I just bought a PSP yesterday and they stopped making games for it already!

 

[BRocknRolla]

I don't know if I can genuinely trust Nintendo. I mean they are basically abandoning both the 3DS and the Wii U. It is like the N64 and Wii again.

As a Wii U owner, I understand very well that one of the best things they can do as a company is abandon the Wii U. They've saddled themselves with a bad investment, and keeping a trickle of support longer into the future isn't going to make me, or them any happier. The Wii U has some great games, but it's time to move onto something better.

As for the 3DS former owner, I can't wait for them to ditch that thing. The ergonomics are awful. My only fear is that the NX follows in the 3DS's footsteps in build.

 

[Okami Haundo]

Nintendo has all these games ready for NX launch until they realise there will be a drought after a few months so they start delaying/hold back releases to spread them out.

Proper portfolio management is a beautiful thing. I'll be extremely happy if they can go back to some of the best days for Wii-U where we get 1 great game a month.

 

[meerak]

Mario & Zelda within 6 months of each other?

Someone let me know, how often has this happened with main entries in both series?

 

[Cid Highwind]

It's not like the Wii U didn't have a good bit of time on its own. Before the Wii U, Nintendo's average time between consoles was like five years. We waited six for the Wii U. If the NX launches in March like they planned the Wii U will have had roughly four and a half years in the sun. Considering its low sales that's not too bad.

 

[Shiggy]

It's not like the Wii U didn't have a good bit of time on its own. Before the Wii U, Nintendo's average time between consoles was like five years. We waited six for the Wii U. If the NX launches in March like they planned the Wii U will have had roughly four and a half years in the sun. Considering its low sales that's not too bad.

Though they stopped software support after 3 years.

 

[Exterminieren]

Easily fixable by releasing Pokémon Star on NX.

NX is not a typical handheld. Also we're not sure, they might port it to NX.

I'm arguing that we'll be seeing a port, yeah.

I don't think the timescale's quite right for Star/Earth/Eclipse/Sun and Moon 2/whatever, though- I'd expect a straight, low-frills port to establish Pokémon on the platform with minimum fuss, and to kick on from there later.

 

[MacTag]

PVZ, maybe, but I don't think sports games are casual in at all the same sense as the audience Nintendo targets.

I'd argue it varies by series but sports games have definite crossover appeal. Casual versus core becomes a bit of a misnomer, it's console games with larger mainstream draw that are what we should be talking about.

 

[SlipperyFishes]

Game Freak released Crystal not long before the GBA's launch, but it wasn't a problem because you could play Crystal on your brand new GBA.

Game Freak released Emerald not long before the DS's launch, but it wasn't a problem because you could play Emerald on your brand new DS.

Game Freak released Black and White not long before the 3DS's launch, but it wasn't a problem because you could play Black and White on your brand new 3DS.

Game Freak are releasing Sun and Moon not long before the NX's launch. You won't be able to play these games on your new NX. That's a problem.

Wouldn't you need a dual screen device to play a dual screen game?

 

[optimiss]

Wouldn't you need a dual screen device to play a dual screen game?

You could do split screen. 2/3 game 1/3 menu system.

 

[KingBroly]

New 3DS is still 199, I can't imagine the NX will cost less than that

It's gotta be priced to move.

 

[MacTag]

NES did too.

Pretty much the only ones with a "bad" launch were the ones you mentioned. Maybe N64, but it also launched with one of the best games of all time, so...

N64 was the definite start and probably most severe example of the dreaded Nintendo droughts but I'd argue Gamecube and DS also suffered this to a degree their first years. GC and DS pulled out of it but N64 never really did imo.

 

[JinjoUnchained]

And if the other rumors are true, all these games are coming out on cartridges. And you can buy Ecto Cooler. What a time to be alive. Now all we need is a Nintendo Power reboot.

 

[Okami Haundo]

It's gotta be priced to move.

Also: The NX isn't going to release tomorrow. There's plenty of time for a much needed 3DS price drop between now and then.

 

[Regiruler]

anyone else keep reading the title as "MVC" and getting excited

Eighting is busy making Steel Combat.

 

[Doctre81]

"graphics in between ps3 and ps4"

lol how vague can you get?

 

[Skiesofwonder]

In addition:


- Pikmin 4 was "in the finishing stages" a year ago.
- It has been two plus years since Tropical Freeze, three by the time NX launches. Retro's new title has to be nearing completion.
- It has been four plus years since New Leaf and a year since Home Designer. A new Animal Crossing has to be far in development.
- Development of Splatoon 2 was in all likelihood greenlight once the first sales data hit for the original. That will be closing in on our two years past when NX launches. I would have to imagine that the sequel would be an early year two title at the LATEST.
- The last Mario Kart (8) released May 2014, and the last DLC hit April 2015. MK9 most likely started development before that and should be far along.
- Xenoblade X will be closing in on two years old when NX hits. Just sayin'.
- March 2017 will be close to three years since Smash 3DS launched, and over two for Smash WiiU. It will also be closing in on a year since the last DLC release. Smash WiiU is heavily rumored to be ported for launch to NX.

That's just off the top of my head. Many of Nintendo's AAA developers have been dormant for too long. And remember, they only have one piece of hardware to develop for now.

 

[MacTag]

Mario & Zelda within 6 months of each other?

Someone let me know, how often has this happened with main entries in both series?

On the same platform? Twice

FDS: SMB2 (Jun 86) & Zelda 1 (Feb 86)
GCN: Sunshine (Jul 02) & Wind Waker (Nov 02)

 

[KingBroly]

Also: The NX isn't going to release tomorrow. There's plenty of time for a much needed 3DS price drop between now and then.

Part of me wants 3DS to not get that price.

"More powerful than Wii U and 3DS. Cheaper than both. $149.99. Pre-Order now."

 

[KingSnake]

- Xenoblade X will be closing in on two years old when NX hits. Just sayin'.

A new Xenoblade will take at least 4 years to be made. But I feel like Xenoblade X is very probable to be ported to NX. The Wii U exclusive with the highest budget should be an incentive to try to make more profit on it.

 

[NOLA_Gaffer]

On the same platform? Twice

FDS: SMB2 (Jun 86) & Zelda 1 (Feb 86)
GCN: Sunshine (Jul 02) & Wind Waker (Nov 02)

Super Mario 3D World and A Link Between Worlds were released on THE SAME DAY as well.

 

[Exterminieren]

Wouldn't you need a dual screen device to play a dual screen game?

There's nothing we've seen about Sun and Moon that in any way requires two screens. I'm certain they can tweak the UI in such a way as to fit the NX screen... Whatever that looks like.

That's a far less integral problem than the franchise being stuck on an obsolete, dying platform for two or three years.