Gamezone
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Why can't this guy just give people some straight answers? Damn, he is annoying.
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A polite discourse amongst friends on the importance of MP-elements in No Man's Sky
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Why can't this guy just give people some straight answers? Damn, he is annoying.
thomasmahler
Member
If it was just a bug, then why wouldn't he be clear with his customers and tweet out something like: "Hey guys, we saw this stream, amazing that two people met already, we're working on getting this fixed!"?
But he's not doing that. And now ask yourself why he isn't.
AcademicSaucer
Member
Why not be clear about it then? Don't dance around the issue, if they are having technical difficulties just say that.
OdysseusVA
Banned
Mexen
Member
This was the first thing I thought of when I saw the images.
If it is day for one player and night for another, how can the two co-exist at the same time in a particular spot? Unless of course, I have definitely missed something.
Edit: never mind
Because in that case they would give a straight answer. But all they are doing is dancing around the issue.
No, I hear you. That's the ambiguity I was referencing.
v BATMAN v
Neo Member
I like your initiative. We'll ring Obama in the morning.
I fear for Sean! Should we pick a country that doesn't have the death penalty?
breakfuss
Member
Oh my lord...
Pop
Member
You got problems man. It's just a game.
Online servers were down and probably still are. The patch notes clearly stated they are encouraging players finding others. It's day 1, get over yourselves.
ISee
Member
What's ambiguous about stuff like:
Interviewer: "You guys are literally building your own massively multiplayer world."
No contradiction from Sean. Sean sits there and plays the shy guy. (or maybe he is... doesn't matter tbh)
Interviewer: "Do we ever get to see ourselves?"
Sean:"... the only way for you to know what you look like is for somebody else to see you."
Interviewer:"Can you run into other people?"
Sean: "Yes.... unlikely to happen"
Interviewer: "WOW"
Interviewer:"How much interaction is there with other people playing NMS.."
Sean:"Those were AI ... but you could encounter other players..."
Interviewer:" Will you be able to play with your friends?"
Sean:"Yeah!"
Interviewer:" Can you grief other players?"
Sean: " A little bit."
Visualante2
Member
I try to give the guy the benefit of the doubt and say he's not being deceptive. Rather he tries to keep some magic and mystique to their game. For the initial period at least. People will rip the game apart, especially on PC and find out how things work. People will start exploiting the systems to do things the creators intended to happen rarely (or never) and suddenly the game's moments feels a little less special.
I agree his statements are very vague, and if it's the case there is no way you could meet up another player it's inexcusable he didn't just state they had to cut it. For as far as we know, the meet-up of those two was bugged or they were in different instances, etc. The way he keeps tweeting know gives me the feeling there still is some way to meet each other, because I can't see why he would keep lying about it (if he does, the shitstorm is warranted imo)
The difference with Molyneux is that Molyneux talked about features that never where even there (there are reports of him making stuff up at the spot), and lied every goddamn time. It was very hard to believe Molyneux's statements after a while. When the whole growing-tree-in-fable thing didn't turned out to be true, I just went 'eh, so what'. But it was the way he kept promising and underdelivering that cemented his reputation.
I could be completele wrong about Murray, but I have the feeling he was sincere every time he talked about meeting another player, and not just promising something to awe a journalist. And then we have the whole Milo-thing which was just vapourware with demo's that were outright a fraud.
I find this a bigger difference then not being able to see another player in a game that isn't about it at all.
There is no way to know from that video when he said those things. Nor do we know if it when the feature was canned (if so), or if he was outright lying there (I have absolutely not the feeling he is lying in those interviews. I feel like at that time the feature was there, but who knows, right).
True, his communication is off and we could do with some clarity.
I don't want to be the defence force here. But I feel a lot of folks are exagerating. It sucks if the feature isn't there. It warrants criticism if it turns out that he lied about if from the start, it surely warrants criticism that he isn't upfront about it still. But damn, No Man's Sky has allready given me hours of fun, and it was pretty clear from the start meeting someone would be a sort of easter egg at the most.
How about we let them say it don't work or let the servers stabilize before we go on the chopping block? Online function have been RIP since it released so the chances are it's not functioning as a result.
However if they did openly lie and servers are working fine in a few days time then take them for a spin.
However if they did openly lie and servers are working fine in a few days time then take them for a spin.
kraspkibble
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there has to be some explanation as to why those guys couldn't see each other. maybe we can still see other players but those guys just weren't on the same server instance or something like that. either that on sean has lied every time he said we could see other players.
he should really come out and give a straight answer.
he should really come out and give a straight answer.
He does give direct answers in interviews
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE0nuW-mQ8A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv1CkZXBROc
But the answers don't always line up with the current situation
Saint of Killers
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Murray said we'd be able to see other players and possibly interact with them. In the same breath he also would say the chance of that happening was practically slim. What I'm trying to say is, if he had "done a Molyneux", he'd have talked up what happens when people meet, and when the two streamers did meet all that would happen is they got see what they looked like. If that's doing a Molyneux then Murray has become the master of it, because apparently all we wanted the game for was to see the one thing he said would be practically impossible. He did a reverse Molyneux.
v BATMAN v
Neo Member
You're not alone........where did it all go wrong?
hydragonwarrior
Member
Maybe they each had cloaking devices on which cannot be turned off (in game bug).
v BATMAN v
Neo Member
Winner.
Coreda
Member
Realistically how difficult would it be to add/fix? Considering some players have apparently already met in the same locations adding player models doesn't seem like it would be terribly hard to implement.
Unless everyone has their own variation of the shared universe. Do other things like lifeforms and such exist in independent instances or can both players see (apart from each other)? That is, identically.
Unless everyone has their own variation of the shared universe. Do other things like lifeforms and such exist in independent instances or can both players see (apart from each other)? That is, identically.
SlickShoes
Member
This is my thread of the year so far, a not working/missing feature in a game causes grown men to want to harm each other. It's been more entertaining than anything I've watched on TV recently, better value for money than the latest Suicide Squad movie I saw at the cinema on Sunday.
I'm getting that too. People are asking questions and he is just talking about how great they are.
v BATMAN v
Neo Member
I'm not sure the term "grown men" can be used here!!
He'd be a good politician
IAmAnAgnostic
Member
What? This isn't addressing the situation at all! But since he didn't state what happened was not intended, the multiplayer doesn't seem to be in the game.
Air Zombie Meat
Member
lmao at this schrodingers multiplayer situation. This is exactly why people were critical of the approach to marketing this game.
Inviusx
Member
Ive been browsing from my desk all day, now I have dinner with the girlfriend so Im going to miss a few quality hours, not happy!
SoulUnison
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I definitely think he's trying to appease the community while also keeping the machinations of the game opaque and interesting, but at this point I feel like there needs to be a separate, definitive commentary somewhere informing people what is or isn't in the game.
It doesn't need to be a list of gameplay assets and surprises, or something, just a brief, technical explanation of what "multiplayer" and "online connectivity" mean in No Man's Sky.
Right. I agree, and concerned in light of those things. The ambiguity comes with the more recent statements that are a bit more open-ended and leave room for more confusion than anything else. Don't get me wrong: If the quotes you posted end up not being things that are in the game, I will be very disappointed, as they were things that got me excited. And Sean should be held to account for those things NOT being in the game if that is indeed the case.
That said, there is the possibility of this being a technical issue. If it IS, it would be nice to know that in direct terms. That there have been zero direct messages conveyed as of now, it is indeed troubling.
"We want people to be aware they are in a shared universe. We added online features, and some Easter Eggs to create cool moments
We hope to see those happening... but too many of you are playing right now. More than we could have predicted"
He didn't use the same words I did, but that's basically what he said..
SlickShoes
Member
haha, true.
SomedayTheFire
Member
Why is there 21 pages of this already lmao.
That's what I mean.
And by going "Wow! Two people at same place on first day! Unbelievable! We have some Easter eggs for people who meet...but too much people playing! We got so many species discovered! Amazing!"
And then when we finally see these easter eggs, he will have hyped it so much that it will underwhelm.
ISee
Member
Why does this matter now. He stated on several occasions that we are playing in a shared universe where we can psychically encounter other players. We can see them, we can interact with them (at least grief them a tiny bit), we can walk besides them or ignore them. If they changed it down the line, that's okay. But than they have the obligation to communicate this very fact to their potential buyers.
And a two days before release tweet is very shady end the quivalent of ending a relation ship by writing: "I lied to you for the last 2 years Michele, I never loved you. It's over. ~Sean" on the wall of a public toilet. Because you know she will come across it on her way to work... someday.
You did the minimum but you deserve the shitstorm because of it.
The thirst is surreal.
irrotational
Member
Sean hasn't lied. I can't believe there is 41 pages on this...just two people have met so far and for whatever reason the matchmaking didn't work.
One example, on day 1, is proof of nothing in terms of game functionality.
Everyone just has to wait a few days and there will be information updates and/or server fixes and/or other people with different internet providers, different routers, etc and the matchmaking will work.
Basically everyone just needs to calm down and wait.
One example, on day 1, is proof of nothing in terms of game functionality.
Everyone just has to wait a few days and there will be information updates and/or server fixes and/or other people with different internet providers, different routers, etc and the matchmaking will work.
Basically everyone just needs to calm down and wait.
IAmAnAgnostic
Member
Then why hasn't he said so? Makes no sense. The dude is Tweeting, but completely ignoring the question, which heavily implies multiplayer isn't in the game.
SomedayTheFire
Member
I saw the thread start last night and I thought after the second page maybe people would see the NAT issues they were having and chalk it off to some network shenanigans. But no DEVS LIED DESTROY THEM in full force.
Right now I feel the confusion a grandpa listening to their grandchild's favorite radio station. What in the world is going on here? How can people be this worked up about something like this?
It seems like the people freaking out are the people who didn't like (or were disappoint with) the game in the first place. I guarantee there isn't a single person here who played NMS happily all day, turned off their PS4, read through this developing story and became outraged.
It seems like the people freaking out are the people who didn't like (or were disappoint with) the game in the first place. I guarantee there isn't a single person here who played NMS happily all day, turned off their PS4, read through this developing story and became outraged.
Because people are angry they lied when the servers are dead and burning.
ScaryShark
Banned
I hope I never see another person in this game.
Again, why dont simply say on twitter there are server problem? Dodging the question dont help them
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