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[SomTervo]

I don't even. Seriously.

"Seriously, oh my god, seriously"

Honestly, if they come out and say "It is impossible to meet another player", then I'll be like "fuck you guys, that's bad practice, you straight up lied". But that tweed doesn't say that. And right at this moment, the game has been out for two days, and we do not have enough information to know whether it's possible to see another player or not. The ONLY experiment we have had at least two highly mitigating factors.

That's the short of it. There's nothing else to it. In coming days/weeks, either players will see each other, and this whole thread will be moot; or this will never happen/Hello will announce you can't meet anyone (contrary to what they've said before), in which case yeah, they've been full of shit about this.

I always thought any multiplayer componenet to this game was going to be like Journey. In the sense that I may bump into someone who's at the same point in the game as me, but it's not guaranteed. I don't see this expirment as definitive proof there's no way to meet other players in the game, but either way I was never buying this game for that specifically.

That's 100% how they described it since day one. They never said you WILL see someone else if you're in the same place. They said you MIGHT see someone else if you're in the same place.

 

[Kenzodielocke]

So, this page has over 50 pages so I ask this, sorry if it has been answered already.

The chance to meet another person is really low, but the chance of you and him, being on the same spot AND in the same instance is even lower ?

Or is it just not possible?

 

[Pop]

I believe ive asked you previously in this thread on multiple occasions, but ill ask once more.. Has the developer said that once the servers are stable the two player twitch streaming will in fact be able to see eachother.

Was he suppose to? Like right now? Do you need an answer this instant?

 

[mikeyvids]

They're not *beings*... they're us! What I've been doing for Sean Murray, they're doing for me, for all of us.

 

[Gator86]

Sean Murray can clear everything up in a single tweet... but instead look how many people are playing!

It's basically people requesting info on a product feature and getting one of those bullets fired/games played infographics that inevitably follow a game release when publishers are trying to open avoid copies sold numbers.

 

[BackFromThePast]

Worked pretty well for me the last 30 years of of purchasing games or having games purchased for me.

Then keep it up.

 

[ClosingADoor]

Multiplayer is in. Servers are screwed. What more needs to be said.

It's even in the patch notes, why would they lie. This thread is just another example of the 1% on the internet overreacting.

What was in the patch notes about this?

And we don't know if multiplayer is in. Or at least not in the way that it was talked about earlier - being able to meet other people. It is very unclear. And from what another poster in this thread said, it doesn't seem any location data is being sent to the server, which would indicate it is not in at all.

Was he suppose to? Like right now? Do you need an answer this instant?

Considering he talked about two players finding each other, it is very strange he didn't explain why they couldn't see each other.

So, this page has over 50 pages so I ask this, sorry if it has been answered already.

The chance to meet another person is really low, but the chance of you and him, being on the same spot AND in the same instance is even lower ?

Or is it just not possible?

We don't know. That's why we are 50+ pages in this thread.

 

[chris121580]

What I don't understand is the worship of Sean Murray.

Can someone explain why there's a cult of this devolper and his studio?

Seriously? No one is worshiping Sean Murray. It's called keeping a level head and not insulting the guy. People are so quick to jump to conclusions. Why don't you wait for a statement from the source before attacking him?

 

[SomTervo]

So, this page has over 50 pages so I ask this, sorry if it has been answered already.

The chance to meet another person is really low, but the chance of you and him, being on the same spot AND in the same instance is even lower ?

Or is it just not possible?

We don't know. They officially said if you're in the same spot you MIGHT be instanced with the other player - so it's officially just 'even lower' as per your post.

But the only two people who have tried it failed, which could be because
1. They just happened not to get instanced
2. The servers were down and it relies on the servers
3. One of the guys has dodgy router porting and frequently has connection issues in online games
4. This same guy also doesn't have PS+ (which you don't need to play the game but perhaps you need it to see another player)

 

[Klyka]

Was he suppose to? Like right now? Do you need an answer this instant?

Seeing how the game is on sale now and people might like to know this before purchase....yes?

 

[Uthred]

I'm wondering if this is 51 pages worth of a big deal.

It's the cross people who wanted to hang the game have been looking for

 

[flkraven]

Why are people feeling the need to defend 3 years of ambitious, vague statement rather than just wait for Sean Murray or Hello Games to say something. A simple "no, those 2 players will never be able to see each other" would clear up months of confusion. My guess? If they tell the truth it will show that they have been being dishonest these past few years.

 

[RoadHazard]

So from the patch notes:



Collision could only mean meeting another player, right? They wouldn't have said that in the patch notes if it was explicitly not possible. If they were lying, why add in a feature which could only help expose that lie?

I'm in Team "It's in but not working yet".

"Collision" might just mean finding a planet another player has previously visited and seeing the signs of someone having been there before you. It would be rather weird and poor wording, but who knows. They've said they want us to get a "sense" of other players existing.

 

[SomTervo]

It's the cross people who wanted to hang the game have been looking for

Seems like it.

For what it's worth the game is absolutely amazing. I've got 20 hours in and I feel like I've barely scratched the surface. More and more posts like this keep popping up in the OT:

I had one of the greatest gaming experiences I've ever had yesterday. The scope and scale, the adventure of being alone in space.

This is what I wanted Mass Effect to be. It's what I wanted Elite to be when I was a kid.

I can't wait to play more.

 

[Tomeru]

And right at this moment, the game has been out for two days, and we do not have enough information to know whether it's possible to see another player or not

Exactly. Why are you all up in arms about something like this? You can be upset. But this is not being upset.

 

[Shari]

If you read the two people left defending "not enough info / server overload" its pretty clear that this thread is over.

Sean is active on Twitter, did an ama on reddit day before launch, community has tested it and yet he couldn't bring himself to tweet "Yes multiplayer is there, is just server overload / not implemented".

Which is not surprising, the WHOLE marketing campaig for this game has run on misinformation.

Now im just sticking around to see to what level of shame can some users go to. Popcorn is ready.

 

[Grakl]

It's the cross people who wanted to hang the game have been looking for

Seems like it.

For what it's worth the game is absolutely amazing. I've got 20 hours in and I feel like I've barely scratched the surface. More and more posts like this keep popping up in the OT:

Lol its possible to enjoy a game and still want clarification on some aspect that the dev has talked about before, or to also have criticisms of the game, it's not black or white, there's no conspiracy against NMS like a lot of drive by posters seem to think there is

 

[Pop]

Seeing how the game is on sale now and people might like to know this before purchase....yes?

MP is in, we know this.

Day 1. Servers fucked. No patience.

 

[Tecnniqe]

Sorry guys just thought it was a funny coincidence

I quite liked the video

 

[ClosingADoor]

MP is in, we know this.

Day 1. Servers fucked. No patience.

How do you know this?

 

[Kenzodielocke]

We don't know. That's why we are 50+ pages in this thread.

We don't know. They officially said if you're in the same spot you MIGHT be instanced with the other player - so it's officially just 'even lower' as per your post.

But the only two people who have tried it failed, which could be because
1. They just happened not to get instanced
2. The servers were down and it relies on the servers
3. One of the guys has dodgy router porting and frequently has connection issues in online games
4. This same guy also doesn't have PS+ (which you don't need to play the game but perhaps you need it to see another player)

Then why is the thread title worded so definitively ?

 

[Bedlam]

"Seriously, oh my god, seriously"

Honestly, if they come out and say "It is impossible to meet another player", then I'll be like "fuck you guys, that's bad practice, you straight up lied". But that tweed doesn't say that. And right at this moment, the game has been out for two days, and we do not have enough information to know whether it's possible to see another player or not. The ONLY experiment we have had at least two highly mitigating factors.

That's the short of it. There's nothing else to it. In coming days/weeks, either players will see each other, and this whole thread will be moot; or this will never happen/Hello will announce you can't meet anyone (contrary to what they've said before), in which case yeah, they've been full of shit about this.


That's 100% how they described it since day one. They never said you WILL see someone else if you're in the same place. They said you MIGHT see someone else if you're in the same place.

The problem is: they are not direct with their answers right now but deliberately obtuse - when people who are making their purchase decision are directly requesting this particular piece of information. They are flatout ignoring questions about it on twitter and are posting misleading "players have net" tweets instead, further fueling the false narrative to boost sales. This behavior right there is the shady part, not a potentially dropped feature.

Now (at the very latest) would be the time to get that information out. Not the coming weeks and months.

 

[ClosingADoor]

Then why is the thread title worded so definitively ?

Because it didn't work for the two guys on the stream, but nobody from the developer has come out that it is indeed possible. Yet that same developer did tweet about the streamers. So it is all a bit strange.

 

[GankzyMcfly]

Was he suppose to? Like right now? Do you need an answer this instant?

He had time to tweet about the 10 million species that have been discovered while people were directly asking "Why couldn't the two people see each other"....and he had the time to tweet out several other cryptics tweets regarding the multiplayer....why didn't he tweet.. "Yes when severs are stable these two can interact" while he was doing all that...If this was any other major dev/publisher in the world (EA, Ubisoft). Hell imagine if this was Peter Youknowwho tweeting about his game...everybody and their mother would be calling his ass out.

That mp is in? Well if you name a planet others can discover it. Etc..oh, you talking about exploring the space with your buds, then I guess time will tell. However some act as though it needs to be cleared now. Right now!

If he has time to respond to tweets asking him questions about the multiplayer he should perhaps actually read those tweets and respond to them clearly instead of posting cryptic hype talk

 

[SomTervo]

Exactly. Why are you all up in arms about something like this? You can be upset. But this is not being upset.

I'm not up in arms at all. I don't care if MP is in the game or not. I love the game. Put loads of hours in already.

I'm getting frustrated ITT with people who are, as Uthred said, using this relatively minor contention as a noose to hang the game from. More importantly, to hang Sean Murray and Hello Games from, when they have done an incredible job, there's no solid evidence for the furore, and everything else they said would be in the game - and more- is in the game, and they are adding more and more in coming updates (they've already announced the first big update will add on-planet base building - something they said a year ago would never be in the game).

Lol its possible to enjoy a game and still want clarification on some aspect that the dev has talked about before, or to also have criticisms of the game, it's not black or white, there's no conspiracy against NMS like a lot of drive by posters seem to think there is

Absolutely - the game's not perfect (what is?), and I want clarification on this too - but wanting clarification isn't the same as going balls-to-the-wall mental at Hello Games for this minor infraction (based on very loose evidence). Basically my comments aren't aimed at you but at people who are almost spouting vitriol at Hello for this.

 

[hodgy100]

MP is in, we know this.

Day 1. Servers fucked. No patience.

what the game isnt multiplayer, we know this.

 

[flkraven]

It's the cross people who wanted to hang the game have been looking for

Or its a product that people are deciding to buy based on stated features, and maybe people value some features differently than others? And when someone misrepresents something they are spending $60 on, they feel like they are being lied to or ripped off?

Just because Hello Games isn't EA or Ubisoft doesn't mean they aren't capable of being guilty of using similar business practice.

 

[Dragonslayer_023]

How is it possible that I entered this thread, and I STILL don't know if this is actually possible or not???

 

[Klyka]

MP is in, we know this.

Day 1. Servers fucked. No patience.

You seem to know a lot......SEAN!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cphNpqKpKc4

Spoiler

I bet you thought that was my video again

 

[Pop]

How do you know this?

That mp is in? Well if you name a planet others can discover it. Etc..oh, you talking about exploring the space with your buds, then I guess time will tell. However some act as though it needs to be cleared now. Right now!

 

[Tumle]

Ok so one of the guys have strict NAT settings or NAT problems..
Do you guys who are up in arms over this know what strict NAT setting does to multiplayer games?
You can't connect to half the servers and p2p is even worse..
So I could see that as a big problem for them not being able to connect to the same instance..
But no!! BURN HELLO GAMES TO THE GROUND!!
They lied about a feature that is not even central to the game..
Wow some of you people..some of you even eluded to that Sean Murray is the worst kind of person to meet in real life because he never gave a straight answer... Well I feel that adult cry babies are even worse..

 

[watershed]

I thought NMS had a confirmed multiplayer mode. I swear I saw a video with 4 players flying in the same spaceship. Maybe I saw another space based game...

 

[BackFromThePast]

Seems like it.

For what it's worth the game is absolutely amazing. I've got 20 hours in and I feel like I've barely scratched the surface. More and more posts like this keep popping up in the OT:

No one called into question whether the game is good or not.

This thread is based purely on misinformation spread by the devs. We don't need anecdotal info about how people are enjoying the game.I'm sure they are, it looks beautiful (imo) but I'll be damned if allow a company to play me for a fool and think there are no consequences.

 

[Baron_Calamity]

In the end, this game could have been completely single player and the experience been no different.Except maybe we would have been playing this a year or two ago.

 

[ResoRai]

That mp is in? Well if you name a planet others can discover it. Etc..oh, you talking about exploring the space with your buds, then I guess time will tell. However some act as though it needs to be cleared now. Right now!

I mean, considering he talked about the streamers on Twitter not to long ago it would've been nice if he had answered then.

 

[Tecnniqe]

How is it possible that I entered this thread, and I STILL don't know if this is actually possible or not???

Because nobody knows. People are fighting over a issue that in the end might just be down to instance between server burning or for all we know is non existent.

Discovery is confirmed working but that's about it. As for the packet sniffing it might not even send Player data when it's in theory "offline" to reduce processing. Who knows. All we know is they said others can see you.

On Friday, unless they bother to confirm or deny anything, we'll probably have a answer.

 

[Inviusx]

It's the cross people who wanted to hang the game have been looking for

People have been questioning this game since day one. We were hoping that the actual release would finally clear up those burning questions. You cant deny that the multiplayer aspect of this game wasn't something that a lot of people were wondering about.

As it turns out the game has been out for over a day now and there is STILL confusion.

Its insane and obviously people want to talk about it.

 

[SomTervo]

No one called into question whether the game is good or not.

This thread is based purely on misinformation spread by the devs.

But we don't know if it's misinformation yet, because there are at least two highly mitigating factors for the one test situation?

Then why is the thread title worded so definitively ?

Humans love controversy.

The problem is: they are not direct with their answers right now but deliberately obtuse - when people who are making their purchase decision are directly requesting this particular piece of information. They are flatout ignoring questions about it on twitter and are posting misleading "players have net" tweets instead. This behavior right there is the shady part, not a potentially dropped feature.

Now (at the very latest) would be the time to get that information out. Not the coming weeks and months.

1. Making a purchase decision entirely based on the game being multiplayer is pretty foolish. They have always said it's in there but it's not the point and it's unlikely to happen.
2. They are definitely being obtuse - but they have been obtuse about tens of the game's systems, and every single thing they hinted at, so far, has been in the game and the game is great for it. I don't see why we should jump on one terrible experiment as proof that this other feature isn't in the game at all

 

[flkraven]

Ok so one of the guys have strict NAT settings or NAT problems..
Do you guys who are up in arms over this know what strict NAT setting does to multiplayer games?
You can't connect to half the servers and p2p is even worse..
So I could see that as a big problem for them not being able to connect to the same instance..
But no!! BURN HELLO GAMES TO THE GROUND!!
They lied about a feature that is not even central to the game..
Wow some of you people..some of you even eluded to that Sean Murray is the worst kind of person to meet in real life because he never gave a straight answer... Well I feel that adult cry babies are even worse..

I'll update the op soon, but go read reddit. They fixed their network stuff and tried for hours.

 

[Bedlam]

Ok so one of the guys have strict NAT settings or NAT problems..
Do you guys who are up in arms over this know what strict NAT setting does to multiplayer games?
You can't connect to half the servers and p2p is even worse..
So I could see that as a big problem for them not being able to connect to the same instance..
But no!! BURN HELLO GAMES TO THE GROUND!!
They lied about a feature that is not even central to the game..
Wow some of you people..some of you even eluded to that Sean Murray is the worst kind of person to meet in real life because he never gave a straight answer... Well I feel that adult cry babies are even worse..

Citation needed.

 

[BraXzy]

Reading through this thread, and discussing with other people about this... It's bizarre how many people instantly defend the entirety of it under the statement of "It was never a multiplayer game, don't shoehorn that onto it."

Can't people just accept the fact they teased this as something with the potential to meet others, or even friends but as it stands that simply isn't possible. And the developers are failing to communicate one way or the other.

I really hope that it is just a server thing, or not active yet or something along those lines. Because I think having that would be really really cool, especially for freak encounters with mysterious strangers.

 

[SomTervo]

I'll update the op soon, but go read reddit. They fixed their network stuff and tried for hours.

Oh, did they? That's interesting. Fair enough.

Doesn't change the fact that the servers are in ruin ATM or that one of the guys doesn't have PS+.

 

[Fractology]

Why are people feeling the need to defend 3 years of ambitious, vague statement rather than just wait for Sean Murray or Hello Games to say something. A simple "no, those 2 players will never be able to see each other" would clear up months of confusion. My guess? If they tell the truth it will show that they have been being dishonest these past few years.

Says the creator of this very topic who made it on impulse without waiting for the creator of the game to say something otherwise. This goes both ways. I have a feeling we'll see soon enough what is legit and what isn't. I don't like the idea of jumping to conclusions within hours of the games release to "confirm" that this is now definitive.

 

[UncleSporky]

So Sean is a liar now?

Yeah he actually is, speaking of features unrelated to multiplayer as well.

He said before that there would be plenty of dead worlds and only 10% would be teeming with life...and then the game comes out and every single world has at least one form of life on it, way more than 10% having lots of animals.

And in patch notes he said this:

Planet rotation – play testing has made it obvious people are struggling to adjust to this during play so it’s effects have been reduced further…

Meanwhile people playing the game have demonstrated that planets don't rotate at all. You can fly in direct straight lines from stations and always end up at the same spot on the surface. So while "it's effects have been reduced" could technically mean "now they don't rotate," it's still not an honest representation of how the game is actually functioning.

And "oh the effects were reduced" meaning "actually they don't at all" is not far off from "oh there's very little chance of meeting another player" meaning "actually you can't at all, the code is not present."

 

[SomTervo]

Reading through this thread, and discussing with other people about this... It's bizarre how many people instantly defend the entirety of it under the statement of "It was never a multiplayer game, don't shoehorn that onto it."

Can't people just accept the fact they teased this as something with the potential to meet others, or even friends but as it stands that simply isn't possible. And the developers are failing to communicate one way or the other.

I really hope that it is just a server thing, or not active yet or something along those lines. Because I think having that would be really really cool, especially for freak encounters with mysterious strangers.

One of the nice things about the game is that Hello are on-record saying they are happy to patch-in any systems and features that players really demand.

Before the game even came out they announced that the next update would add base building - something they categorically said wouldn't be in the game a year ago.

So even if multiplayer isn't in the game, I think there's a solid chance they'd update it in - especially due to how massive this furore is!

 

[Uthred]

Lol its possible to enjoy a game and still want clarification on some aspect that the dev has talked about before, or to also have criticisms of the game, it's not black or white, there's no conspiracy against NMS like a lot of drive by posters seem to think there is

No need to get hyperbolic, no one is suggesting there's a conspiracy, because that would be fucking mental (so probably right at home in this thread). However in every NMS thread over the past few years there has been a vocal contingent who predicted the game would be terrible and were openly salivating at all the delicious schadenfreude to come. Now that an "actual issue" has arisen it serves as a focal point or lightning rod for said contingent. It's not unique to NMS, it happens with all high profile games. What we know so far is that a) the developer said there was a chance of meeting people and b) two people were in the same place but couldnt meet. It would seem best to wait for c) clarification before decalring that no players could every meet, the developer was a liar and Sean Murray should be pilloried.

Or its a product that people are deciding to buy based on stated features,

The games listed as Single Player on the Steam page and on the PS4 box, so if you really cant meet other people then people are getting exactly what was stated.

 

[ItIsOkBro]

I was expecting that spaceship battles would be a thing.

 

[darklin0]

Reading through this thread, and discussing with other people about this... It's bizarre how many people instantly defend the entirety of it under the statement of "It was never a multiplayer game, don't shoehorn that onto it."

Can't people just accept the fact they teased this as something with the potential to meet others, or even friends but as it stands that simply isn't possible. And the developers are failing to communicate one way or the other.

I really hope that it is just a server thing, or not active yet or something along those lines. Because I think having that would be really really cool, especially for freak encounters with mysterious strangers.

Yup, too many loud crusaders on both sides. Most of us want an answer about a feature they mentioned multiple times.

 

[Anung]

Citation needed.

I met Sean Murry at a game expo in Los Angeles a while back. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him about basic features in No Man's Sky
He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”...

Etc etc!

 

[Bedlam]

1. Making a purchase decision entirely based on the game being multiplayer is pretty foolish. They have always said it's in there but it's not the point and it's unlikely to happen.
2. They are definitely being obtuse - but they have been obtuse about tens of the game's systems, and every single thing they hinted at, so far, has been in the game and the game is great for it. I don't see why we should jump on one terrible experiment as proof that this other feature isn't in the game at all

1. People are asking them directly - now. They want that information and the devs - for some reason* - refuse to give it. That's all there is to it.They are not aswering direct and short questions about it but are tweeting all kinds of misleading bs instead.

2. Sean has been very clear about these features in various interviews. Why is he suddenly being coy when being asked about the very same features?

* the reason of course being them wanting to ride that false narrative for as long as possible for maximum sales