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[MadClacker]

I can't help but chuckle and facepalm when I see so many people talking up HDR as if it's the second coming of Christ. We've been using this shit since 2005. I remember playing a Half-Life 2 tech demo called "Lost Coast" that demonstrated this very thing. To put things into perspective...

...lmao

 

[Lime]

Mount and Blade had HDR

Not sure what the differences are this time - tv enthusiasts are talking about it but not sure it's that amazing?

 

[McHuj]

I can't help but chuckle and facepalm when I see so many people talking up HDR as if it's the second coming of Christ. We've been using this shit since 2005. I remember playing a Half-Life 2 tech demo called "Lost Coast" that demonstrated this very thing. To put things into perspective...

...lmao

I'm face palming at this post

 

[Venom Fox]

I can't help but chuckle and facepalm when I see so many people talking up HDR as if it's the second coming of Christ. We've been using this shit since 2005. I remember playing a Half-Life 2 tech demo called "Lost Coast" that demonstrated this very thing. To put things into perspective...

...lmao

Lmao back at you.

I'm face palming at this post

Same.

 

[icespide]

I can't help but chuckle and facepalm when I see so many people talking up HDR as if it's the second coming of Christ. We've been using this shit since 2005. I remember playing a Half-Life 2 tech demo called "Lost Coast" that demonstrated this very thing. To put things into perspective...

...lmao

have you actually seen HDR in person on a proper screen?

 

[Inbachi]

Hmmm I'm kind of underwhelmed with the announcement but since I have yet to buy a PS4 of any flavor, I guess it makes sense to pick up the Pro at this point.

 

[Guymelef]

I can't help but chuckle and facepalm when I see so many people talking up HDR as if it's the second coming of Christ. We've been using this shit since 2005. I remember playing a Half-Life 2 tech demo called "Lost Coast" that demonstrated this very thing. To put things into perspective...

...lmao

You have no idea... lmao...

 

[anothertech]

Here is a HDR comparison.
from kotaku: http://kotaku.com/the-ps4-pro-will-help-launch-a-new-more-complicated-er-1786366610

HOly SHT HDR is Glorious!

Zero Dawn can't come soon enough. I can't imagine anyone interested not wanting to play the Pro version of this game.

 

[leng jai]

The EB AU trade in deal is actually very decent.

A 500GB PS4 and a game (literally any game will work eg. Driveclub) will get you $210 trade value. It also stacks with EB World so you can get an extra 15-20% on top which brings it up to $250. Considering you can get new PS4s bundled with a new game for about $380 these days you can't really complain for the convenience. Only issue is you have to do without your console for 2 months.

 

[ClayKavalier]

I can't help but chuckle and facepalm when I see so many people talking up HDR as if it's the second coming of Christ. We've been using this shit since 2005. I remember playing a Half-Life 2 tech demo called "Lost Coast" that demonstrated this very thing. To put things into perspective...

...lmao

Others already calling you out, but the HDR in Lost Coast and the HDR supported by PS4 Pro and X1 S are two completely different technologies with the same name.

 

[CyberChulo]

I can't help but chuckle and facepalm when I see so many people talking up HDR as if it's the second coming of Christ. We've been using this shit since 2005. I remember playing a Half-Life 2 tech demo called "Lost Coast" that demonstrated this very thing. To put things into perspective...

...lmao

I don't think you know what HDR in 2016 means. You can't possibly have seen HDR (real HDR) back then as that tech in TVs didn't exist back then.

Edit: Posts like these just goes to show how uneducated people are about what this tech is and watching the PS Meeting stream certainly didn't help.

 

[Venom Fox]

have you actually seen HDR in person on a proper screen?

Wonder of he knows HDR on a TV and HDR Rendering are different things.

 

[Vegetable Lasagna]

I can't help but chuckle and facepalm when I see so many people talking up HDR as if it's the second coming of Christ. We've been using this shit since 2005. I remember playing a Half-Life 2 tech demo called "Lost Coast" that demonstrated this very thing. To put things into perspective...

...lmao

I don't even know where to start... HDR is bad because you saw a compressed comparison image on the internet? What display are you viewing this on?

 

[defghik]

I can't help but chuckle and facepalm when I see so many people talking up HDR as if it's the second coming of Christ. We've been using this shit since 2005. I remember playing a Half-Life 2 tech demo called "Lost Coast" that demonstrated this very thing. To put things into perspective...

...lmao

 

[bryanee]

I can't help but chuckle and facepalm when I see so many people talking up HDR as if it's the second coming of Christ. We've been using this shit since 2005. I remember playing a Half-Life 2 tech demo called "Lost Coast" that demonstrated this very thing. To put things into perspective...

...lmao

 

[MadClacker]

You guys are so easy.

 

[Venom Fox]

You guys are so easy.

Pfft. You can't get out of it that easily. I didn't detect a /S under a spoiler tag so your post is invalid.

 

[MADGAME]

Edit: quoted the wrong person.
Anyway..

I fail to see in the picture on the left how a wide color gamut is accurately represented. I see a bigger light in the sky and some lens flare-y stuff, but not HDR in the manner I see on modern TVs. Not saying Zero Dawn won't look good in HDR, but the screenshot certainly doesn't do the technology any justice. Maybe to try to demonstrate HDR they washed out the pic on the right.

 

[Lady Gaia]

I can't help but chuckle and facepalm when I see so many people talking up HDR as if it's the second coming of Christ. We've been using this shit since 2005.

HDR in intermediate render targets and HDR at output are two very different things.

 

[Smooth Operator]

You guys are so easy.

 

[Jonboy]

Has anyone actually confirmed that the Pro downclocks itself in "legacy" mode? Or is the Jaguar still running at its normal frequency?

Closest I've gotten is this comment from Sid Shuman when I asked him on Twitter.

Ok guys, I asked Sid on Twitter about unpatched games and unfortunately, it sounds like they are indeed set to run just as they do on the standard PS4. Bummer, imo. Doesn't make sense for them to have this restriction.

 

[Celcius]

edit: nevermind

 

[nillah]

All in all, that PlayStation meeting was swift and pragmatic in point of execution

4/5

 

[GIANKRATOS]

Didn't know where to post this,

How about a small taste of some Days Gone PS4 Pro shots?

https://twitter.com/bendstudio/status/774037464382005251

 

[Inuhanyou]

Didn't know where to post this,

https://twitter.com/bendstudio/status/774037464382005251

Uhh...that looks way better than any of the off camera or off youtube compressed footage we have seen so far.

 

[DPtheGod]

but will the Pro finally support external HDD's though

 

[onanie]

LOL

 

[Chris_Rivera]

Wow those Days Gone screens are incredible. Hopefully they truly are direct captures.

Two months

 

[DaleinCalgary]

Well I got my pre order in at best buy. Now the wait.

 

[III-V]

I can't help but chuckle and facepalm when I see so many people talking up HDR as if it's the second coming of Christ. We've been using this shit since 2005. I remember playing a Half-Life 2 tech demo called "Lost Coast" that demonstrated this very thing. To put things into perspective...

...lmao

I see what you did there

 

[Brix]

This gif is perfect hahahha

 

[JayBabay]

Expect it to pass a 1080p signal unless your monitor has a way to pretend it's 4K. I don't think Sony has any history of supporting PC monitor resolutions so it's probably just looking for 1080p and 4k, and if it doesn't see 4k you get the other one

Ahh, that's too bad. I figured as much, the issue here is that a 4K native monitor is overkill for PC since 4K gaming isn't at 60fps yet (sub Titan XP?) and 1080p may not be taking full advantage of what you're paying for with the hardware.

 

[CloudyTuba]

Is the special checkerboard 4k upscaling technique something that needs to be implemented by devs per-product or does the system itself handle the upscaling universally?
And if the answer is that the system handles it, can this scaling technique also be applied to other content such as 1080p movies?

I dont know what step of the output process that it is implemented. If it's right at the tail end applied to whatever sub-4k output is received, then it could benefit a variety of media. I'm guessing it happens earlier in the process, though.

 

[Bad_Boy]

Didn't know where to post this,

https://twitter.com/bendstudio/status/774037464382005251

DAMN, this looks really good.

 

[Karspankey]

Wow, those screenshots are amazing! So clean and detailed!

 

[Shin-Ra]

Didn't know where to post this,

https://twitter.com/bendstudio/status/774037464382005251

If I zoom in I see some vertical combing artefacts, especially in shadows and I don't think twitter's heavy JPEG compression's to blame, but viewed normally 1:1 on my UHD monitor, I barely see it. High contrast geometry edges look native res, temporal AA quality. The second shot's harder to judge because the compression's smearing so much foliage detail together but overall it seems really crisp too.

This might be best-case-scenario without much motion when snapping a pic but it's promising for an UE4 game from small-mid-size AAA dev.

 

[FIREKNIGHT2029]

:O Those screenshots!

 

[Chamber]

Didn't know where to post this,

https://twitter.com/bendstudio/status/774037464382005251

Screenshot thread is about to be lit as fuck.

 

[truth411]

I could go to the Xbox One S OT, but the PS4 Pro is the system that doesn't support UHD. I'm disappointed by that. Is not being 100% positive about the latest Sony product not tolerated here?




What about the phrase "in comparison with" do you not understand? And it's obvious there is going to be a huge performance gap going by the gpu specs alone of the two PS4 skus...

Don't worry, the OG PS4 still out performs the Xbox One S

 

[Kaako]

Screenshot thread is about to be lit as fuck.

Oh indeed.
The released screen(s) look a hell of a lot better than that bootleg youtube "4K."
Bring on this whatever-the-fuck rendering technique, I'll take it.

 

[Wishmaster92]

Didn't know where to post this,

https://twitter.com/bendstudio/status/774037464382005251

HOLY shit.. that looks good...like real good. On my panny 1080p plasma the first shot looks so pristine

 

[Inuhanyou]

Is the special checkerboard 4k upscaling technique something that needs to be implemented by devs per-product or does the system itself handle the upscaling universally?
And if the answer is that the system handles it, can this scaling technique also be applied to other content such as 1080p movies?

I dont know what step of the output process that it is implemented. If it's right at the tail end, then it could benefit a variety of media. I'm guessing it happens earlier in the process, though.

The checkerboard rendering technique is a hardware built in feature that is also sped up to be much easier to use, but its only for rendering 3D graphics, so no movies, but 1080p movies will have special 4K upscaling features to make the picture as good as possible.

Johnathan blow spoke out on it and said that the most straightforward thing devs could do for NEO mode was to implement the checkerboard rendering solution, because its already supported in hardware.

 

[Shin-Ra]

I downloaded the Elder Scrolls Online PS4 Pro trailer (YouTube VP9 codec) and that looks native 2160p. They were smart to include some slow-moving scenes so the video quality copes better.

 

[pixelation]

This part of the article on Kotaku is pretty interesting for us poor souls with a 1080p screen who are still interested in going Pro, basically... It seems like we will get better shadows in 1080p as opposed to the 4K version due to the extra resources available in 1080p mode.

The Guerrilla devs didn’t have a 1080p TV nearby to plug their game into, but they talked through how the game running on a Pro might look on one of those TVs, which is the kind of TV this self-interested author has. They pointed to some plants in the foreground and noted that their shadows on the 4K TV were a little blurry, something they said was due to having to maintain a good framerate while still showing an ultra-pretty 4K HDR image on the Pro. “If we have all that extra power, and you only have a 1080p TV, we can put that into making the shadows crisper,” Van Der Leeuw said. Or, even better: “The easiest thing for us is, when people have a 1080p TV, is render the game internally for 4K and then super-sample it down for 1080p. Internally we’ve calculated a 4K image, but we then use all the information to create a better-looking image. There are so many knobs to turn and whatever suits the game best.”

http://kotaku.com/the-ps4-pro-will-help-launch-a-new-more-complicated-er-1786366610
EDIT: This part also... i am so loving Guerrilla right now, i hope other devs follow in their footsteps.

“We see it as our job to make sure that all that enhanced power that the Pro brings, that you’re not losing that if you don’t have a 4K display,” Hulst added. He suggested that for those 1080p Pro players Guerrilla might “get rid of any jaggies” in the graphics or offer “a less grainy image.”

So in theory... if i have a 4K HDR screen but choose to get the 1080p mode running for the extra bells and whistles i can still benefit from HDR right?, i would only be missing out on the extra resolution boost right?, if so that is sooo f'n sweet!!!

 

[adamsapple]

Didn't know where to post this,

https://twitter.com/bendstudio/status/774037464382005251

Well now .. this game is starting to look like something special. Very surprising after (what i thought) an underwhelming E3 demo.

 

[Heckler456]

I'm thinking I might get a 300-400 euro 4K monitor or something for the pro, and wait a little until large 4K televisions with HDR become a little more affordable.

Does a 28 inch 4K monitor offer the same benefit in clarity as a large 4K television?

 

[lowhighkang_LHK]

I'm thinking I might get a 300-400 euro 4K monitor or something for the pro, and wait a little until large 4K televisions with HDR become a little more affordable.

Does a 28 inch 4K monitor offer the same benefit in clarity as a large 4K television?

I'd consider avoiding a half-step. You can get a good 50 inch 4k HDR television for 1,000 dollars American.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/vizio-5...lack/4352100.p?id=1219736059154&skuId=4352100

I don't know the retail environment that exists for you, but I'm sure similar price ranges are being offered where you live.

 

[Bsigg12]

I can't help but chuckle and facepalm when I see so many people talking up HDR as if it's the second coming of Christ. We've been using this shit since 2005. I remember playing a Half-Life 2 tech demo called "Lost Coast" that demonstrated this very thing. To put things into perspective...

...lmao

You clearly have no idea what HDR is in regards to TV sets.

 

[pachura]

Should I expect shortages of PS4 Pro in November?
In other words, should I preorder, or will they be widely available?

 

[lupinko]

Should I expect shortages of PS4 Pro in November?
In other words, should I preorder, or will they be widely available?

Just preorder to be sure, if you do it on amazon they won't charge you until it ships.