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I know this is a review thread but still, harsh.
The words in the reviews (rather than just the scores) suggest to me a fun core game with grindy openworld missions and bugs.
Sounds to me like I wait and pick this up on sale after Christmas. I watched Lirik play a few hours last night and whilst he didn't seem to like it, I thought it looked fun. My kids might like it too.
This just popped up on my smartglass feed...
I don't even...
Funny thing is, the load times aren't even better than Bloodborne if you go by the digital foundry 1.03 loading times (which varies from 11 to 39 seconds) and the 40~46 second loading times Recore has.
We have to wait for the game to bomb like Quantum Break before it comes to Steam.
How do you even measure this? Do you just open hundreds of tabs of streams and somehow understand what's going on? Or did you look at like 3-5 streamers who agreed with your opinion and called it a day? Getting the opinion of a majority of streamers seems like a lot of work.
Doesn't that work the other way around as well?
Like that?
I don't think there is something wrong to watch your streamers/reviewers you do mostly agree with and then get a feel of how much you also would enjoy it.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
I follow a good amount of streamers on twitch. Out of most of them the common agreement was that the game looks rough around some areas, FPS dips randomly, and the core gameplay can get repetitive after many hours. But I didn't sense they outright hated the game.
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
Perhaps against my better judgement, I've bought this.
I'm going to have to wait for the European unlock date to try it but I've tried to remind myself that I've had some good fun with low rated games in the past.
I am trepidatious though...
I'm going to have to wait for the European unlock date to try it but I've tried to remind myself that I've had some good fun with low rated games in the past.
I am trepidatious though...
MisterR
Member
This is way better than The Order: 1886, that's for sure.
Still excited for it to arrive by my door tomorrow.
How the hell would you know when you haven't even got it delivered yet.
Just played 2 hours of ReCore. Enjoying my time with it. Haven't done much exploring yet, just following up with the story for now until I get Seth (which I'm close to). Almost got the dungeon rush time on the first try (freaking died at the last part with 5 seconds left...pissed me off...i'll go back and do it later).
Gameplay is fun, definitely need to know what's going on around you. I keep forgetting to do the charge shot and use Mack but once I do, I take down the enemies faster. Visuals aren't awesome but it's still ok. I have my XBO games on a USB3 external so I don't get horribly long load times (tho, they are still lengthy), not enough to deter me. Sometimes I have no idea where an enemy is and it just lands on me, I was like wth because I could hear it but couldn't see it...but that was at just one part. Sometimes the targeting doesn't get to the enemy that I want as fast as I want but not game shattering.
Thoroughly enjoying myself. I'll play some more later today. I'll probably try to find some Prismatic cores before getting Seth, or maybe after I get Seth since I have so much I can upgrade him with. I upgraded Mack already so his attacks are pretty powerful when I ask him to dash. The platforming is challenging in a good way...only gripe is feeling out the distance between platforms, sometimes you think you're gonna fall but you make it...so just believe in yourself.
Protip: Dash off ledge, then double jump and dash again for max distance (well, as long as you dash off a ledge first any combination after that will give you max distance). If you see arrows off of a platform, that means to dash off of that platform. I've seen many streamers not use that. lol.
Gameplay is fun, definitely need to know what's going on around you. I keep forgetting to do the charge shot and use Mack but once I do, I take down the enemies faster. Visuals aren't awesome but it's still ok. I have my XBO games on a USB3 external so I don't get horribly long load times (tho, they are still lengthy), not enough to deter me. Sometimes I have no idea where an enemy is and it just lands on me, I was like wth because I could hear it but couldn't see it...but that was at just one part. Sometimes the targeting doesn't get to the enemy that I want as fast as I want but not game shattering.
Thoroughly enjoying myself. I'll play some more later today. I'll probably try to find some Prismatic cores before getting Seth, or maybe after I get Seth since I have so much I can upgrade him with. I upgraded Mack already so his attacks are pretty powerful when I ask him to dash. The platforming is challenging in a good way...only gripe is feeling out the distance between platforms, sometimes you think you're gonna fall but you make it...so just believe in yourself.
Protip: Dash off ledge, then double jump and dash again for max distance (well, as long as you dash off a ledge first any combination after that will give you max distance). If you see arrows off of a platform, that means to dash off of that platform. I've seen many streamers not use that. lol.
Omega Kirby
Member
Ign gave it a 7.3
http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/09/13/recore-review
Game seems to be just about average
http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/09/13/recore-review
Game seems to be just about average
Man Called Aerodynamics
Member
Always love a good contentious review thread. I thought this game looked pretty cool and I'm a bit disappointed it didn't turn out. I still may check it out one day down the line, when it's on sale for a few bucks.
More power to the people actually enjoying it. I know there have been games that were objectively pretty poor but that I still got a kick out of for whatever idiosyncratic reason. It happens.
Still, it's always funny to see people in threads like this so heavily invested in a brand new game that they're bending over backwards to rationalize bad reviews or convince themselves that it's a secret masterpiece and everyone else is wrong.
More power to the people actually enjoying it. I know there have been games that were objectively pretty poor but that I still got a kick out of for whatever idiosyncratic reason. It happens.
Still, it's always funny to see people in threads like this so heavily invested in a brand new game that they're bending over backwards to rationalize bad reviews or convince themselves that it's a secret masterpiece and everyone else is wrong.
Jimmyfenix
Member
Aaron Greenberg's Twitter header is the funniest thing you'll see all day
That is a pretty stupid banner
Bloodborne is still my favorite game so far this gen overall. And I loved games like Witcher 3, Life is Strange, INSIDE, The Witness and many more.
LukasTaves
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This tells a lot more about the gaming journalists than it says about the game really. Go pick and play and anyone can see the game is no where near the trash they painted, on the contrary it's a great game with a few issues that keep it from being incredible all around.
Agreed, unless something drastic changes things up, I will enjoy my entire time with the game.
digoutyoursoul
Member
Aaron Greenberg's Twitter header is the funniest thing you'll see all day
That's the guy who listens to fanboys
The fanboys who don't like fans, the fans who don't think everything and anything is amazing with Xbox but are passionate and will actually give feedback.
I hate what that community has become, I used to like it a lot. Real shame.
Yea. I can see where people can not like the game but I don't think it deserves those 4/10s that I see. I can't wait to play some more this afternoon. I think i'm gonna take a break from the story and go exploring and get some prismastic cores (since we know near the end you'll need to get a bunch of them anyways). I'm not a person who gets mad at a game for making me explore to find all these items to unlock a gate. There's a gate near the beginning of the game that needs 75 cores...that should have told you right there. LOL.
what a weird thing to compare it to bloodborne of all games
nah, it's probably nothing
How so? Wasn't that the complaint about BB? The load times? Seems they're comparing load times. Which weren't a big deal to BB's scores, but are to Recores. Maybe that's the point they were trying to make.
In your opinion. In mine, the Xbox community on Twitter is great. Great people and generous. Some great friends have I made from meeting up with them at FanFests.
Same here.
Well, one is saying that a specific streamer rates the game meh. Easily quantifiable. The other is saying that the majority of streamers are enjoying it. Not so easy to quantify. There's a huge difference between what each is saying.
digoutyoursoul
Member
Yes it's my opinion, I never stated otherwise.
Weltall Zero
Member
How does it make sense to use the review scale any other way than what the sites putting out those very reviews do? If they scored games with a 7 as "well above average" (as they should) you'd have a point, but they don't: 7 for them is "average" and thus one adjusts expectations accordingly. If a magazine hands out 7s to restaurants they review as "barely edible food" it makes little sense to take your friends here because "7 means pretty good, damnit!".
There is, of course, the valid complaint about most sites using only the top half of the scale. Somebody should compile a true "meta-critic": as in, a critic of critics, where, among others, all scores dealt out by each site in a given year are averaged: the further this average deviates from 50%, the more they are bloating their scores.
Curious, is the review scale shifting away from the American grading system? Some of the lower scores seem a bit harsh for the writing that accompanies them. I would think a 4 would be near unplayable, not just poorly designed and long load times.
If it is shifting, that's fine, as long as it's consistent. Sucks for games caught on the cusp, but I may still look into this game if they're able to address the loading times.
If it is shifting, that's fine, as long as it's consistent. Sucks for games caught on the cusp, but I may still look into this game if they're able to address the loading times.
thekiddfran
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ElBoxyBrown
Banned
It is a part of his job to listen to the core fanbase.........
Zeouterlimits
Member
Read the FeministFrequency review, which worries me further, will definitely be on the look out for the Giant Bomb review.
Yeah, I think I am done holding out hope for this game. This sounds infuriating:
Bits N Pieces
Member
lol
ShironRedshift
Member
Yeah, that doesn't sound very great. That time of grindy time sink isn't what I'm really looking for in a game like this. =/
lifeexpectancy
Member
You do not need to get every collectible. You dont need to get any of the 50 audio logs. You dont need to collect a single upgrade part (the little boxes, of which there are hundreds). The only thing you NEED to get are the non-basic cores, a lot of which come through normal course of play.
The sub 6 reviews just sound like whining to me. I'm 8 hours into the game and loving it. The long loading times is shitty for sure, and that alone knocks it down at least a full point for me, but I'd still give it a 7.5-8/10. 4/10 for this game is insane. That's lower than a lot of FAR worse games have gotten.
If you like metroidvanias and 3rd person adventure games, you'll probably dig ReCore unless you're just a jaded, overly cynical, impossible to please, entitlement-generation gamer.
Pause game, hit Y to fast travel to crawler. Switch bots. Fast travel back to the nearest fast travel point to the prismatic core youre after. There are TONS of fast travel points. Most prismatic cores are within 10-15 seconds' walking distance of one. The only 'time hoofing it' you should be doing is the loading screens, which I will admit are the game's biggest flaw. The hyperbole about "hoofing it" is just ridiculous.
Also re: gameplay being repetitive - So every shooter on the planet is repetitive. I mean all you do is run forward and shoot shit, over and over and over until the end. The gameplay moment to moment is great. I especially love the platforming bits when you use the spider bot. The camera movement really gives you a good sense of momentum.
Which takes less than half a second. Seriously, this is nitpicking at its finest. Ironically, the one thing in this game that loads REALLY fast is the map. You hit the button to pull it up and it's opened nearly instantly. A lot of games take a second or two to load the map, but ReCore's map loads immediately. I get that a lot of the people writing these reviews need hand-holding to get through a game, but those of us that grew up playing games without waypoints, trails of bread crumbs, and hand-holding are doing just fine in ReCore.
The review system is changing, but it isn't remotely consistent. There are a LOT of games far more deserving of lower scores that have scored higher than Recore. This game doesnt come close to warranting a 4/10 (or less in a few reviewers' warped reality). Even the strictest review shouldnt go below 6/10 for this game. You're absolutely right that a 4/10 should be nearly unplayable, and this game is not on that level. Anything from a 6/10 to 8/10 would be much more realistic.
This 100%. ReCore is a good game that could have been great, or maybe a great game that could have been incredible. It certainly isn't the trash some reviewers are claiming it is. And I am starting to think ReCore might just be a good litmus test for exposing reviewers' biases.
Agreed, and GAF-only reviews isn't a bad idea!
See, even a mod gets it. Game isn't without its flaws, but it sure as shit isn't a 4/10 'garbage tier' game some of these reviewers are claiming it to be. I guess controversy gets da clicks, though.
Its better to judge a game by ourselves no need to depends on other opinion IMO. If it sucks it sucks if its an okay game then no lost for me.
Zvonimir Boban
Banned
This would be a good idea were it not for the fact that publications select which games they want to review. There are hundreds of Big Rigs level games released every year that will never get reviewed, that's what is skewing the usage of the scale. If every single game was reviewed and we found that reviewers never used 0-5 you'd have a point.
With regards to ReCore, I'm kinda dreading the end game already. I've enjoyed what I've played so far but the grinding for cores must be off the charts to turn so many reviewers against it. Mechanically the game is legit.
LukasTaves
Member
Well, I'm no where close to finishing the game, however one thing I noticed is that on the story path you are presented with many optional challenges that are awesome to do so I dunno why you wouldn't want to, and grants you many prismatic cores just by being good at those challenges.
Speed runs with great platforming, that you have to be fast but also have one eye out for hidden stuff; super thought battles, and so on. All presented to you very clearly when you are following the story.
And considering the rate I'm collecting prismatic cores (more than what the main story line is giving me) I don't think by the end of the game I'll have to do much grinding.
Anyway way, I think I still can't talk for sure, but it seems to me that he either rushed the game going straight for the main quests and them found himself coreless, or he is just not any good in this game, unless the game really hands out cores like candy at first and them stops and raises disproportionally the amount of cores you need to progress.
Audioboxer
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RedSparrows
Member
It's just an activity feed of your friends and the like. So it's just some random dude.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
I'm about 2 hours in and really really liking it. I'd have it at around an 8 based on what I've played so far. Really tight controls, fairly deep-ish combat system and I only have one bot at the moment too so it should open up with more robot buddies.
Loading times vary pretty wildly. I'm running off an external drive and have still seen a load time as long as a minute.
Loading times vary pretty wildly. I'm running off an external drive and have still seen a load time as long as a minute.
Played it for about two hours and got tired, will come back to it later.
Game started to feel like some kind of Ratchet and Clank but then they made it open world just because, maybe some attempt at Zelda style hub, and it didn't let me get to a zone just because.
I liked some parts of the game so far, only two hours of gameplay, and but others not so much.
Playing on a OG One and the loadings......................................................................! Two minutes for a new area, died once and I regreted it!
Game started to feel like some kind of Ratchet and Clank but then they made it open world just because, maybe some attempt at Zelda style hub, and it didn't let me get to a zone just because.
I liked some parts of the game so far, only two hours of gameplay, and but others not so much.
Playing on a OG One and the loadings......................................................................! Two minutes for a new area, died once and I regreted it!
Ricky Ricardo
Member
So ... comparing Bloodborne load times (at launch) to ReCore load times (at launch), you can't see where comparisons could be made?
Because comparing Bloodborne 1.03 or anything past the launch code to ReCore launch code is hilariously off-base. If fact, I'd say its dishonest.
Either you're being purposefully obtuse or your reading comprehension skills are lacking, but the quote is talking about loading times and not attacking your Game of the Generation.
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
Are the load times going to get patched anytime soon?
I'll pick this up for sure when they're fixed. I'd lose my patience with long load times
Can't wait to play it
I'll pick this up for sure when they're fixed. I'd lose my patience with long load times
Can't wait to play it
lifeexpectancy
Member
Salt because they were comparing one aspect? (long load times)
If anyone here is salty... well, I'm not even going to get involved with THAT nonsense. But that post makes your mindset painfully obvious.
Bloodborne was a great game (bolded so you don't ignore this statement). Not game of the generation, IMO, as that title belongs to Ori (which was on Steam too, so you can't say I'm just an "xbot" or whatever). But it was definitely a great game.
The sad thing is ReCore is a great game too. It's not quite up to bloodborne's level of polish, but it's a fantastic adventure game and I'm personally loving it. I really, REALLY think the reviewers giving it such massively negative scores either a) were trying to rush through the game super fast just so they could get their review out while 'the iron is hot'; b) don't have any clue what this game's trying to do, and are overly penalizing it because of only one real shortcoming (the asinine load times); or c) just plain suck at the game, and weren't able to get as many prismatic cores as the average gamers (most of whom have positive opinions of the game) during the normal course of play and doing some of the challenge dungeons.
marcbret87
Member
Yes, it most definitely does.... Which is a shame really, because other aspects of the game really sound quite good.
Audioboxer
Member
Thought so!
Well i think the story and characters are great in the game. Dont believe there were any negatives about that part.
Forza Horizon 3 is coming in 2 weeks
pixellated_man
Member
The reviewers who gave the game medicore / bad scores thought that too...for the first few hours or upto the second half of the game or thereabouts.
I suggest you and the others in that OP should finish the game first before proclaiming the games 'greatness'.