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Presidential Debate #1 |Hofstra University| PRESS X TO SEAN

Who won the debate?


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finowns

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I thought at first Hillary should be more assertive but towards the middle of the debate I thought it was smart she let Trump do his thing. She's been debating for a long time so she knows whats up.
 
I thought at first Hillary should be more assertive but towards the middle of the debate I thought it was smart she let Trump do his thing. She's been debating for a long time so she knows whats up.

I think this is it...mostly. She did seem a little caught off guard at first, but soon found her footing
 
Well, to put it more generally, I think Trump won with people who don't care about debates, or policy. He had enough one-liners to successfully paint her as ineffective. That's really all he needs to do. He doesn't need to play Hillary's policy game, he just needs to make her seem like the same old politics that have done nothing for the average middle class American. I know PoliGAF doesn't necessarily understand this perspective, but many people in America don't care about the intricacies of foreign policy or even specific domestic details. They want someone who projects leadership and who appears to be a "fixer", not a politician.

Whether there's enough of these people to put the election in his favor remains to be seen. But I don't think his fumbles tonight were enough to ruin his position with most undecideds and independents. I say this as someone who supported Bernie and plans to vote for Hillary.
Bingo.
 

Darkgran

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My thoughts.

Trump: Better debater, more charismatic, more suitable for foreign policy. His domestic policies would be disgusting.

Hillary: More sane, totally better at domestic policies. She never wanted to address Trump head on though which worries me.

Conclusion: I still don't like either candidates.


Amazing.
 
Trump will win simply because he is less fake.

Did you see those smiles?

Fascinating analysis. I will say we did see the real Donald for the last 2/3rds at least. I agree there but I'll take a measured politician over a complete babbling mad man. Nothing is more terrifying about this cycle than Trump getting points for being a clueless nitwit and not being afraid to show it.
 

BatDan

Bane? Get them on board, I'll call it in.
Its happened before. Remember this lady?

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She was fired right after E3 for being overly enthusiastic. Some people don't like that. It feels so forced.

Wrong. She left the company in 2010, a couple years after that E3
 

reKon

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Just some notes I had during the debate about shit Trump was saying

-- Rooted for economy collapse
-- Lied about being a global warming denier
-- Admitted to tax evasion
-- Admitted to not paying employees
-- Confirmed he would attack foreign soldiers for a simple taunt
-- Said racial profiling is okay

yep
 

Steel

Banned
That cyber fat guy did great. Hacked reality while penetrating the net. That's the only way the current state of affairs makes sense, at least.
 

AlphaDump

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I thought at first Hillary should be more assertive but towards the middle of the debate I thought it was smart she let Trump do his thing. She's been debating for a long time so she knows whats up.

It is pretty funny, and ironic, that Trump had far less stamina
 

TaterTots

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I thought at first Hillary should be more assertive but towards the middle of the debate I thought it was smart she let Trump do his thing. She's been debating for a long time so she knows whats up.

The problem with that is the American people also like when Trump does his own thing. It's why he has made it this far. I'm curious to see how the polls play out. Even though I believe Clinton won this by a mile, I still believe the polls will be really close.
 
It is absolutely terrifying that people can honestly think that about a man who...

Wants more nations to 'defend themselves' with nuclear weapons.
Wants to extort our allies for money or we'll back out of our mutual protection agreements.
Wants China to invade North Korea.
Wants to allow our navy to fire on unarmed civilians in international waters if they annoy them.
Wants to back out of all of our current trade agreements.
Wants to back out of the Iran nuclear agreement.
Wants to build a border wall and attempt to strongarm Mexico into paying for it.
Wants to bring back waterboarding and other forms of torture.
Wants to fight ISIS by 'bombing the hell out of them' and sending ground troops into Syria.
Wants to simply 'take' oil from foreign nations.
Implied he is willing to abandon American citizens held in foreign countries if he doesn't think he is 'winning' the negotiation.
Thinks our only real ally in the world is Israel.
Every single 'plan' he has can be boiled down to an extremely vague "be better at stuff".

Seriously, my cat is more suitable at foreign policy than this raving lunatic.
Americans have memories roughly the length of a dogs memory. The details are gone before the sun comes up and all a lot of people remember was whether or not he or she had a good smile and was huggable. Forget the policies. How did they LOOK?
 
I can understand agreement on white nationalist centric platforms on a 70% white majority country. That is democracy: rule of the majority.

BTW I'm not saying that minorities should have worse treatment or anything, just seems reasonable that a candidate has a strong support when the 70% majority gets seduced by policies focused on favoring them
The U.S. Constitution is fundamentally constructed to protect minority rights from majority rule. This is kind of a bedrock principle.

"White nationalism" is not the belief that white people should be "favored"; it is the belief that racial and national identity are inseparable: In this instance, that America is for white people and nonwhite people should not be American.
 
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