King Tubby
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White supremacy is basically founded on taking credit for the accomplishments of others.
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Feels bad man. Pepe the frog has been listed as a hate symbol.
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White supremacy is basically founded on taking credit for the accomplishments of others.
Have you heard Timber?
Bounceounce
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No I just see it and don't care beyond it irritating me when arguing with Trump altrighters on facebook.
No ideology, left or right,owns a meme.
Dongs Macabre
aka Daedalos42
No one is saying they own it, though.
Pinko Marx
Banned
You could also find tons of MLP alt-right memes. Anime. Warhammer. You name it.
FlowersisBritish
fleurs n'est pas britannique
What a relief! When I read the title, I thought they were talking about that singing/dancing frog with the hat. That guy was great, I'd have been heartbroken if he was a racist.
Battlechili
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I see a lot of people using Pepe memes.
Memes by definition are used by a large number of people.
Bounceounce
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I'm talking more about people in this thread and the last one talking about "taking Pepe back".
It's not their meme either.
People in this thread are seriously misunderstanding what the ADL list is about. It's not supposed to be some kind of list of banned symbols or something like that, it's supposed to be a list of symbols that can be used to identify white supremacist people and organisations, because not all of their symbols are as blatant as the swastika.
Because they're so stigamatized, white supremacists form a somewhat hidden subculture that rely on dog whistles and abstract symbols to identify each other. Stuff like "88" or that triforce-looking thing are part of that. They're not inherently evil or something but if they use them the right way they can broadcast their allegiance without overtly revealing it to people who aren't white supremacists.
Pepe has been co-opted as one too - when used in specific contexts. Trump Pepe is one such context, overtly racist Pepe memes obviously another, and even heavy use of ordinary Pepe memes in say an otherwise very racist twitter feed can function as one too. Does that mean you should stop using Pepe memes because they're forever taboo now? No. Just recognise that they are being used as a dog whistle as well, and be a bit careful about not accidentally coming off that way - for your own sake, if nothing else.
Because they're so stigamatized, white supremacists form a somewhat hidden subculture that rely on dog whistles and abstract symbols to identify each other. Stuff like "88" or that triforce-looking thing are part of that. They're not inherently evil or something but if they use them the right way they can broadcast their allegiance without overtly revealing it to people who aren't white supremacists.
Pepe has been co-opted as one too - when used in specific contexts. Trump Pepe is one such context, overtly racist Pepe memes obviously another, and even heavy use of ordinary Pepe memes in say an otherwise very racist twitter feed can function as one too. Does that mean you should stop using Pepe memes because they're forever taboo now? No. Just recognise that they are being used as a dog whistle as well, and be a bit careful about not accidentally coming off that way - for your own sake, if nothing else.
TheGameshark
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Poor Pepe, we still got dat boi though
More ppl need to see this. Like, how can anyone take that serious?
I saw plenty of antisemitic and nazi Pepes long before this daily beast article. Who cares if this guy was a troll? Pepe has been corrupted for years.
A lot of you sure seem angrier at the people pointing this out than the actual racists making and using these memes.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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It's good to have people talking about how white supremacists are just white supremacists ironically for years. Very good.
This is the article Clinton referenced on her website.
How in the world did you get that out of what i posted?
This will go in one ear and out the other for a lot of people here. Because they get the Internets, in ways that those old fogeys at the ADL never will, and they MUST protect the sanctity of this cartoon frog, except of course, for the time it was co-opted wholesale by white supremacists.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
Looking through that "parody" account and already seeing "fags" and n***a, definitely not racist, just irony right there. I'm glad GAFers can set the record straight on irony.
It seems you are stating USC-fan is racist. Is there backstory here?
Of course. That's what the internet does. I bet there are MLP, Spongebob, Simpsons, Hillary and whatnot memes that connects them with racist shit (done for harm or not), does that make all those things inherently corrupted and racist as well? Pepe is free for all to use - like almost anything creative people get their hands on, no one can 'claim' them to a certain cause. It might get associated with it at some point (like the Swastika), but not on this level.
Jawbreaker
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It's time for Pepito the Mexican Antifa version of Pepe to rise against the corruption.
i think he misunderstood what i posted.
i saw this stuff today when this story made the front page of reddit.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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He's only been banned for arguing for black people to get shot by police.
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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Pepe just wants to belong. He's like Zelig, he can't help it.
This seems like the sort of thing you'd want to provide source link(s) with.
Transistor
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That's an even worse meme
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
On police officers giving out "Mike Brown bonuses," USC-fan has things to say:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=175549083&postcount=147
Anyway, the Twitter user is clearly racist and only is as "No, I'm totally not a Nazi!" as Encyclopedia Dramatica.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=175549083&postcount=147
Anyway, the Twitter user is clearly racist and only is as "No, I'm totally not a Nazi!" as Encyclopedia Dramatica.
damn you're really ahead of the curve there. are you telling me /pol/ is just one big troll??
B-b-but, the sanctity of muh memes
Hambulance
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Battlechili
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I expect people with negative moral code to do and use the same things that I do.
I don't expect news reporters to do news articles on things they don't understand.
I dont know why this post is getting people upset. Im not saying alt right are not using the meme. I just saying the source in that dailybeast article was a twitter parody account. Really nothing had to do with pepe just them not checking their sources. Then the daily beast article made it on a Clinton's website. Its all in that youtube video.
Im not down playing the people are using it or whatever. Not sure why people are taking it that way.
That's Pepe. He's a symbol associated with white supremacy.
DeSo
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never forget
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Ironic white supremacist here:
https://twitter.com/JaredTSwift/status/780580686046515200
... The "he's just doing it ironically!" article was written by... The Daily Caller. The Daily Caller is a NeoNazi website.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/08/30/d...t-right-psychology-professor-kevin-macdonald/
https://twitter.com/JaredTSwift/status/780580686046515200
... The "he's just doing it ironically!" article was written by... The Daily Caller. The Daily Caller is a NeoNazi website.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/08/30/d...t-right-psychology-professor-kevin-macdonald/
SenorArdilla
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How much authority does this organization have? Just asking.
Sweeney Tom
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Dat boi is still safe
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
They are the authority, along with the Southern Poverty Law Center, on Antisemitism.
He's called Spongegar you uncultured swine.
Air Zombie Meat
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Raises an interesting question. Is peeing with your pants down now a white supremacist dog whistle? If so I'm gonna stop doing it in public. Was wondering why I'd been getting so many funny looks.
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