BRocknRolla
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Really nice condescending response to someone who has a different opinion than your own.
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PS VR Unboxings
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Really nice condescending response to someone who has a different opinion than your own.
SuperEpicMan
Banned
Just looked this up and I could get 5 shitty non-Fifa games from CEX for about £20. I am kinda tempted lol.
Marty Chinn
Member
Maybe they stripped it from the European version only....
There's no confirmation the newer camera will be bundled yet. There's speculation it will and there's been some comment from Sony at one of the Asian announcements that it will be, but nothing confirmed yet.
Spazgadget
Member
I obsessively watched most of these last night.
It's like softcore porn for me at this point.
It's like softcore porn for me at this point.
Really baffling how they can say that when the XB1 doesn't even match the original PS4. So how does an XB1S match an even more powerful PS4 Pro?
ZiggyPalffyLA
Member
Yes, and I would've taken Kinect over an Xbox 360+
It's a lot more fun to have friends over and say "hey let me show you this awesome new experience" vs "hey look at the extra pixels"
sankt-Antonio
:^)--?-<
So... do i sell my Amazon preordered PS VR (most likely for profit) and wait until some actual good games come out or do i say fuck it, keep the damn thing and buy move controllers until the 13th ?
Your headset is broken homey. That game definitely uses head tracking.
Edit: Also, how did you not throw up
BRocknRolla
Member
Why did we even progress pass the PS One? We got polygons. The rest has just been needless extra pixels.
The last three generations have been a total waste outside the glowing excitement and the revolution we've gotten from Kinect and PlayStation Move.
In all seriousness though, people have different interests, and the dismissive manner in which you're approaching those "extra pixels" is ridiculous. Technology moves forward in a lot of directions, and Kinect and PS Move are perfect examples of "innovations" that didn't actually innovate anything in the space. The increase in console power has had a much more profound effect on the experiences we have had up to this point. Hell, it's part of what allows us to push meaningful VR. Further, that VR you're so interested in? It's going to look a hell of a lot better once we get those "extra pixels" on the lenses.
The Elite
BOSS
I'm not entirely convinced this is going to be as hard to find as people think it will be. So sell fast or just enjoy it. Seems like you wouldn't mind keeping it anyway.
Waylon Drums
Member
I need to cancel my preorder or I'm facing being thrown out of my house.
...but I don't wanna.
...but I don't wanna.
CarbonFire
Member
I'm thinking of selling mine, since supplies are seemingly limited.
And I have a Vive
Priorities. Give your preorder to someone here who didnt make the cut.
NotSmartEnough
Member
Yes. Three virtual screen sizes. The smallest locked in the centre of your vision.
AllBusinessJr
Member
How can we go about this?
I have a preorder on the line for the launch bundle that I'm on the cusp of canceling. I want someone here to get it rather than throwing it back into the abyss wherein some poacher picks it up and ruins Christmas for someone.
TheMan
Member
Does that mode still require the ps4 to be hooked up to a TV as well?
zackmorris
Member
There are plenty of house... in VR
NotSmartEnough
Member
I honestly don't know, sorry: I don't know if you can boot a PS4 into the menu just with a headset attached or whether you need a TV.
My guess would be yes, but it's just a guess.
I have a pre order and like most, im on the fence.
I will keep it in case the demand is there, if not it will be returned unopened.
I think the demand was due to geeks like us and a small supply. The general public couldn't careless about it. I have been to various events showcasing the device and the only people who really had legit "awe" at the virtual worlds where the parents of the kids they brought to the demo stations.
everyone else was meh due to the content, headset graphics quality and cost of entry.
If this was a 200 device it would sell like bonkers. It is just too expensive for what it is ( yeah cost of technology blah blah ).
right now PS4 neo and slim will sell this holiday. This wont make a dent. All logic aside there is a " NEW PS4 ! " available in November, that is what everyone will be wanting and the kids will be asking for.
I will keep it in case the demand is there, if not it will be returned unopened.
I think the demand was due to geeks like us and a small supply. The general public couldn't careless about it. I have been to various events showcasing the device and the only people who really had legit "awe" at the virtual worlds where the parents of the kids they brought to the demo stations.
everyone else was meh due to the content, headset graphics quality and cost of entry.
If this was a 200 device it would sell like bonkers. It is just too expensive for what it is ( yeah cost of technology blah blah ).
right now PS4 neo and slim will sell this holiday. This wont make a dent. All logic aside there is a " NEW PS4 ! " available in November, that is what everyone will be wanting and the kids will be asking for.
zackmorris
Member
Except that they are personalities, which is why they are in front of the camera. Doing that is a talent, even tho I'm not a fan of Brian and Scoville.
spookyfish
Member
I'm proud of Kuchera getting over his fear of virtual firearms to be able to participate in this unboxing. #Prayers4Ben.
Oh, wow, that made me laugh. And then burp sympathetically.
Oh, wow, that made me laugh. And then burp sympathetically.
DeathByBacklog
Member
Say that you did. But they must have screwed up.
family_guy
Member
Sure, but if you have a perfectly good TV why would you? It will look like a blurry mess.
Croatoan
They/Them A-10 Warthog
I hope you guys like it and it sells well but i am really worried this 1rst gen "Chair-VR" is going to damage VR moving forward.
To explain myself, the only reason VR survives is if it provides experiences that cannot be had on a tradition screen. Why? Well that is because playing traditional games on a 2d screen is an objectively better method than the same experience in VR.
For example, playing something like uncharted 4 in vr is a novelty, not a platform, and that novelty wears off fast. I own a Vive and can attest to how fast playing traditional games in VR gets annoying. Its easier and more comfortable to play then on a tv.
VR can provide experiences that are completely unique to the platform though (Budget Cuts, Onward, Call of Starseed, Rec Room, Raw Data, etc), and it is these experiences that justify the devices in the minds of early adopters.
My fear is that Sony, in their haste, has jumped into VR with a version that plays to VRs weakness, not strength. PSVR will reach a lot more people than it's bigger brothers but will do so in a half assed package. The novelty of non room scale, non cockpit, games likely will wear off really quick, and in the minds of the mainstream VR will be a bust. Thus destroying the industry before it can grow.
Tldr: PSVR is the weakest of the three VR headsets (no roomscale), but will get the most visibility. If it fails it might doom the great roomscale headsets, and VRs future, due to Sony's bad decisions.
To explain myself, the only reason VR survives is if it provides experiences that cannot be had on a tradition screen. Why? Well that is because playing traditional games on a 2d screen is an objectively better method than the same experience in VR.
For example, playing something like uncharted 4 in vr is a novelty, not a platform, and that novelty wears off fast. I own a Vive and can attest to how fast playing traditional games in VR gets annoying. Its easier and more comfortable to play then on a tv.
VR can provide experiences that are completely unique to the platform though (Budget Cuts, Onward, Call of Starseed, Rec Room, Raw Data, etc), and it is these experiences that justify the devices in the minds of early adopters.
My fear is that Sony, in their haste, has jumped into VR with a version that plays to VRs weakness, not strength. PSVR will reach a lot more people than it's bigger brothers but will do so in a half assed package. The novelty of non room scale, non cockpit, games likely will wear off really quick, and in the minds of the mainstream VR will be a bust. Thus destroying the industry before it can grow.
Tldr: PSVR is the weakest of the three VR headsets (no roomscale), but will get the most visibility. If it fails it might doom the great roomscale headsets, and VRs future, due to Sony's bad decisions.
This isn't universal or objective (as you say) in the slightest. I played 20+ hours of Chronos, 4-5ish hours of Lucky's Tale, and 4-5ish hours of Edge of Nowhere, and others in VR and never once did I wish I could play them on a traditional display. Maybe the resolution and convenience tradeoff isn't worth it to you, but every game I've tried with decent VR support (even including unofficial ones like Alien Isolation and Quake 2) I've preferred in VR.
If I could have played Uncharted 4 competently adapted into VR (maybe on PS4 Pro or something), I would have in a heartbeat. After the hours I spent with other seated VR games, I'm holding off on playing Obduction on a monitor because there are VR versions on the horizon.
As far as roomscale being doomed, I don't think it will happen. Like VR itself more broadly, roomscale is already out of the bag. It's too effective to die.
King of Custard
Member
Except PSVR does have limited roomscale.
NotSmartEnough
Member
Ah, the old "poison the well" argument, how I've missed you. Feels like the threads back in the days after PSVR was announced, when a certain Mr Luckey was the darling of VR and could do no wrong...
Waylon Drums
Member
The current plan is to say that I forgot I had ordered it when it shows up. If I can sell a couple of old things and use Christmas to my advantage...
IlGialloMondadori
Member
Really want it, but 350 pounds + move + camera for questionable support going forward means I'll most likely cancel my preorder. I'd love to be wrong, but Sony doesn't have a great track record with peripherals lately, and VR sales have completely flat lined.
It's a weakly-defined spectrum. The PSVR and Oculus DK2 have "roomscale" in the sense that you can stand and move, but it's safe to say that Croatoan is referring to the SteamVR definition: moving around a 1.5mx2m space with worry-free 360-degree rotation and fully-tracked controllers.
The Elite
BOSS
I was gong to write out something that said as much but this is perfect.:
Also, even if Room Scale isn't a thing with this iteration of PSVR that doesn't mean it won't be in the future.
The Last Wizard
Member
If I'd didn't suck at driveclub I'd be all over that too.
I've tried it already and it cool but it needs games.
I feel you man, gotta be an adult. Finances are also a big factor I'll more than likely cancel.
DagnastyEp
Member
Kinda Funny Games is doing a live unboxing right now on Colin and Greg live.
twitch.tv/kindafunnygames
twitch.tv/kindafunnygames
It's one cable...
The Elite
BOSS
Wireless VR can't come soon enough.
ok. I get what you're saying though. It's still cumbersome.
NotSmartEnough
Member
It's already here: strap a smartphone to your face and away you go.
This is the main reason im waiting to see what titles come along, dev support and if a pro version appears which i think it will with better screens. So far no software screams want me now for me.
family_guy
Member
So VR's future is dependent on Sony? Don't think so. Gaming in VR probably won't take off for years. The other social stuff like concerts, sporting events, tours, etc. will be far more popular and I think mobile VR is where most people jump in, especially if Apple gets off its ass and develops their own headset.
I agree that room scale VR experiences are impressive, but I think it's limiting to say that they are the only legitimate VR experiences. If that's the case, then it means that only extremely wealthy people living in very large condos or homes in cities, or people living in towns with larger homes and dedicated game rooms/dens are "real" VR users, and everyone else is fake.
That's basically like telling the average Manhattan, Tokyo or London resident, "Since you live in an apartment, VR's not for you. I definitely recommend you don't buy it. You have to understand that, more than anything else, the amount of real estate you have determines the quality of your VR experience. If you don't like that, I suggest you improve your employment situation, get a better salary and move to a bigger home."
I don't think the VR industry actually wants to tell people "House required for VR."
The Elite
BOSS
GOOD Wireless VR can't come soon enough.
Though, I do think the cellphone VR is going to be what mainstream adopts. It's just so easy and a cheap addition to an existing product. It's a technology that will get a lot better.
This is actually the first time i'm having this dilemma, I want to cancel my pre-order because I want to play it safe and would like to get the second gen version, but my WIFE actually want me to get this thing.
yes the wife told me to keep the pre-order so that she can play that "shark" game thing.. haha
yes the wife told me to keep the pre-order so that she can play that "shark" game thing.. haha
Okami Haundo
Member
Man... Watching these unboxing videos reminds me of the Vita launch. I was so BEYOND sold on it that I shelled out upwards of $500 for the "get it first" edition or whatever they called it, along with a memory card and a bunch of games. I loved everything about the Vita and I was convinced it was the future of handheld gaming! Then... I got bored of it rather quickly, memory cards never got cheaper, and the "revolutionary" features like PS3 remote-play and AAA handheld games stopped coming.
I'll wait patiently and see how PSVR pans out before I buy another PS4 to get it, but I'm hoping it's a game-changer in the way we thought Vita would be. Please be good, please be good, please be good.
I'll wait patiently and see how PSVR pans out before I buy another PS4 to get it, but I'm hoping it's a game-changer in the way we thought Vita would be. Please be good, please be good, please be good.