AquaWateria
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And you had Bethesda shitting on the Wii U day one and now they're putting Skyrim on a Nintendo console.
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And you had Bethesda shitting on the Wii U day one and now they're putting Skyrim on a Nintendo console.
That's not a safe conclusion at all.
Aztechnology
Member
Allegedly (Likely, but who knows). Point being they won't support it if the numbers and interest aren't there. I think it may be for this. But if it isn't capable enough to allowing relatively non-invasive porting than they may not. Hard to say it's in a great position for third party to support or not. The one thing I know it will get support form is handheld/mobile devs though.
It was a business decision.
Thank God this is not a normal home consoles though. And Nintendo handheld had stellar third party support.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Isn't that the very bait and switch people fall for: the facade that there will be third party support throughout its life when in most cases its only initially.
Kikorin
Member
Luckily Switch is not Wii U.
Zomba13
Member
I think the Switch will absolutely get better support than the Wii U if only because it will be their only system. There will be now home console and portable, where the portable has better sales and more support while the home system gets left behind because no one bought it. Yeah, they will still support the 3DS for a little while (they've already said 2 more years or something right?) ut I think when the handheld stuff starts popping up for the Switch, when we have a new Pokémon and Yokai Watch and Monster Hunter people will buy one for those handheld games and now suddenly you also have a big install base for the home console only devs/pubs.
Now, I don't know how well it'll do compared to the PS4 and Xbone or how exactly "portable experiences" will be handled (you know, battery life, if the screen is touch, connectivity between devices) but I can totally see this doing at least as well as 3DS and Wii U combined and even better if they handle the marketing right. Only issue is the portability. It looks fairly big and certainly not pocket sized which is something the DS/3DS was perfect for.
Now, I don't know how well it'll do compared to the PS4 and Xbone or how exactly "portable experiences" will be handled (you know, battery life, if the screen is touch, connectivity between devices) but I can totally see this doing at least as well as 3DS and Wii U combined and even better if they handle the marketing right. Only issue is the portability. It looks fairly big and certainly not pocket sized which is something the DS/3DS was perfect for.
Herb Alpert
Banned
Sometimes it looks like people are kind of uncomfortable about the possibility of Nintendo getting even a tiny third party support.
Why not persona 5? "lol no"
Monster hunter? "Yeah now with HD assets it sure won't stay exclusive"
Ff7r? "ho not likely because reasons"
Re7? "nope"
Sigh...
Why not persona 5? "lol no"
Monster hunter? "Yeah now with HD assets it sure won't stay exclusive"
Ff7r? "ho not likely because reasons"
Re7? "nope"
Sigh...
Yeah I wouldn't hold my breath. We've heard these exact same "commitments" before.
While this has my interest i seriously can not see myself playing games from some of these publishers on that controller layout. I will be having to move my hand to press some of those buttons above what is usually the stick used for camera control. What idiot thought it would be wise to stick those right above it rather than slightly off to the side like an xbox/ps4 layout.
Its going to drive me mental.
Its going to drive me mental.
Actually, i would love if Nintendo can get moar Japan mobile game maker to make a handheld version of their game here without the gacha.
Imagine how many games we can get.O_O
Rune Story
Hortensia Saga
Idolmaster Cinderella Girls
Love Live
World Chain
Divine Gate
Sakura and Sword
Liberation of Azure
Phantom of the Kill
and many many moar every day lol.^_^
I'm sure we've seen a few patents in the past from Nintendo looking at modular control systems. Might be you'll be able to get a component to suit your needs as an option instead.
disastermouse
Banned
I'm really excited for this! I only just bought a Wii U in August (I'd wanted one for 2 years). BoTW pretty much ensured that I'd get a Switch (I know it's coming for Wii U, but I want it on the newest platform).
The thing is, this is really going in the opposite direction of everything else. VR is fiddly and requires an isolating commitment (not bad, but maybe not an everyday thing). PC is also fiddly (Drivers, updates, etc). Switch is a full console with the absolutely best thing about Vita and 3DS: I push a button and it's off. I push the button again and it's right where I left off.
The thing is, this is really going in the opposite direction of everything else. VR is fiddly and requires an isolating commitment (not bad, but maybe not an everyday thing). PC is also fiddly (Drivers, updates, etc). Switch is a full console with the absolutely best thing about Vita and 3DS: I push a button and it's off. I push the button again and it's right where I left off.
Dark Cloud
Member
God this thing is going to get a lot of third party games. Probably not western, but some damn good Japanese atleast.
that's not a bait and switch and it's not a facade. a bait and switch would be like if ea said they were making games and then said they were, but on a different platform. ea actually did make games for 3ds and wii u until both became poor returns on investment.
if reality affects hardware a certain way, it's not unreasonable to expect plans to change for third-parties. the reality is that most of those companies did support the platforms nintendo was showcasing in 2010 and 2012. that doesn't mean they're locked into 4-5 years of support and it's ridiculous to think that's what it means.
speaking specifically about Japan, if this thing takes off decently (I don't mean Wii/DS numbers, just 3DS numbers) then it will get everything the hardware can run and that is popular in Japan.
that includes Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy and Persona
it needs to sell, first and foremost, and not come up with Vita/WiiU/PS4 numbers.
persona 5 'golden' or something similar seems like one of the easiest decisions to make. other than that, there's a shitload of support from atlus on 3ds and i would expect that to continue with switch.
the switch will pick up the slack once vita's no longer a thing, and it'll largely continue on with what's been going on with 3ds. atelier games, disgaea games, ace attorney, etc are all fairly likely now. maybe not idea factory's games - they might do better on ps4 and steam given how niche they are.
LastCupOfSorrow
Banned
The setup is perfectly fine and the Pro Controller is amazing, so there is that.
Yer i just see the pro controller at least that looks like i can avoid getting a thumb extension ;p
Yeah i'm in the camp of "I'll believe it when I see it". The same song and dance was there before the Wii U, or the 3ds, or for example the japanese partnerships for xbox one. Probbably will get decent ports the first year, but then it's after that that i'm interested to see where it goes. It's no Wii U, but it's still the most underpowered console on the market it seems, and we've yet to see about stuff like how nintendo will handle online, something they're notoriously awful at, or other specs that will entice (or not) the purchase of this console (region lock etc) and Nintendo's own output for the machine
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
When you list third parties on board with your platform, that is the expectation. Nintendo failing to meet such an expectation is why many are still dubious.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Can't you play it on a tablet?
if nintendo is listing third parties supporting the machine, and support comes to the machine, then that means they listed third parties that have supported the machine. there aren't contracts in place to show that everyone's packed into a thelma and louise style final ride. am i supposed to be upset that sony put out a list of publishers that never supported the ngp after its first two years like level-5, or should i acknowledge that time travelers and lbx were actually things and for very obvious reasons they moved on to more profitable platforms?
Principate
Saint Titanfall
That's not a bait and switch, that happened because largely no one bought their ports, and thus continue to support wasn't economical as the new gen arrived.
Kresnik258
Member
Thing is, seems like people will be upset with stuff like - for example - if Konami supported it but didn't release Metal Gear Solid on it.
But Konami will probably release a Jikkyou game and maybe a Pro Evo title and they will have supported the console, so the splash list was correct.
Should they not list them then? Or do they need to wait 4 years before they can put their logos in a slide?
I get that this is not a sure deal. But with WAY more partners on board than with the WiiU, it is surely a step in the right direction.
We won't know how it pans out for a while but they are without question in a better place than their last system was with third parties willing to stand by the platform (even if only temporarily).
Again:
WiiU
Nintendo Switch
It's not even close.
Checked some pages but couldn't find this, so here it goes:
https://twitter.com/devolverdigital/status/789221519243157504
God, I can't wait to get my cartridge of Shadow Warrior 2. Playing games like that in portable form will be nuts.
https://twitter.com/devolverdigital/status/789221519243157504
God, I can't wait to get my cartridge of Shadow Warrior 2. Playing games like that in portable form will be nuts.
I'm super glad it's not a normal home console, mainly due to the fact that home and portable share the games. Now we will get them all on the one system.
Jonneh3003
Banned
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=220978758&highlight=#post220978758
Made a thread earlier about Shin'en working with Switch
Made a thread earlier about Shin'en working with Switch
Jaded Alyx
Member
Look again.
CoffeeJanitor
Member
Just like the Wii and the Wii U, right?
Just covering in case no one pointed this out yet.
Just covering in case no one pointed this out yet.
Dark Cloud
Member
They announced DQX and XI a long time ago
Well, that's the conservative Nintendo fanbase in a nutshell for you ¯_(ツ
_/¯TheDinoman
Member
This is me being weird, but I'd be surprised to see Persona 5 get on Switch mainly because Persona (spinoffs aside) has typically been a very Playstationy series. That's how I feel with the FF7 remake.
Yeah, I know, weird, but still. Wouldn't be against them on Switch but that's just my gut feeling. Then again I wasn't exactly expecting to see Skyrim here so I dunno.
Yeah, I know, weird, but still. Wouldn't be against them on Switch but that's just my gut feeling. Then again I wasn't exactly expecting to see Skyrim here so I dunno.
wild wild rice
Member
When is the official funeral for Treasure? I would like to press X to pay my respects.
Kresnik258
Member
I would say, it seems the difference is the size of the partner they're including though. If you look at the WiiU list, it's pretty much only big publishers (except the top right, I can't tell who that is).
The Switch page has much smaller teams like Frozenbyte; Starbreeze Studios etc. I didn't even know who Gametrust was until I googled it (it's Gamestop's label, which is probably why Frozenbyte is on there since they're signed under that label). But it's not like smaller teams didn't develop for Wii U!
And that brings me to a second point on the Switch slide: repetition. Square Enix and Tokyo RPG factory are on there. WB Games and Traveller's Tales. Grasshopper and GungHo. In the WiiU slide they didn't list EA; Criterion; EA Canada as separate entities, despite the fact that they were all developing different games (and one was the publisher). So that's obviously going to make the list look bigger.
LordRaptor
Member
A lot of 2017 software was supposed to be 2015 software.
thanks, worst console generation ever.
Is that why Mass Effect Andromeda was delayed to March? ;P
I doubt it, but a man can dream
Not if it's online-only.
Kissenkopf
Banned
Yoj know that some devs have the dev kits since late spring? So that gives them nearly 10 months to port their games. Enough time it is easy to develp for.
LordOcidax
Member
Tethering the NS to the phone internet on the go... hummm.... Can see tha happening....