The Wii (and DS) got a ton of 3rd party support, it just wasn't hardcore enough to be considered "proper."
As for the Wii U, look through the thread, there's comparisons and many arguments showing that it's not like that either.
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The Wii (and DS) got a ton of 3rd party support, it just wasn't hardcore enough to be considered "proper."
As for the Wii U, look through the thread, there's comparisons and many arguments showing that it's not like that either.
tkscz
Member
Well, if you're at a place where there is public wifi. But it would have to be good wifi
"Hudson Soft"
#FucKonami
Was Destiny Online-Only? Only every watched videos and tried it out a a friends place.
I thought you could play on your own?!
-shadow-
Member
"Hudson Soft"
People are angry at Konami for Silent Hill and Metal Gear. This is what I'm angry about...
The Last One
Member
Did you really take a look at the list? Because half of your suggestions are there.
THQ, Platinum, 505, TT games...
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
No but you will be wary next time Sony has a handheld. Let me clarify my point again. Nintendo has failed to meet expectations numerous times despite promising good third party support, hence no benefit of doubt is given.
True, its more akin to failed expectations.
After EyeToy and Move I guess we should be super wary about PSVR too then. No future there obviously.
And numerous times? Outside the companies that died or collapsed (THQ, Hudson, Majesco) we got most of the games off that big ass 3DS announcement list. Including all four Atlus entries which everyone ridiculed. Wii and DS were loaded with 3rd party support, as was GBA and even Gamecube despite it's low sales. Even the N64 actually saw support from it's pathetic "dream team". The only Nintendo platforms I can think of where the prelaunch support lists proved ultimately unfounded due to the systems failing were Virtual Boy and Wii U. So a whole twice in over 30 years of consoles is numerous?
funkystudent
Member
I remember a few years later during a E3 Giant Bombcast the Harmonix guys talked about how being on that list was also a surprise for the studio.
Always take these lists with a grain of salt.
Django.Mango
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JosephManderley
Member
Surely we will get some 3rd party game announcements between now and January? Nintendo surely aren't going to be that draconian?
Seeing the hardware is one thing, and lists of "partners" are all well and good - but I need to see some games before I get too hyped.
Seeing the hardware is one thing, and lists of "partners" are all well and good - but I need to see some games before I get too hyped.
Obscuritas
Member
Yeah. Those lists are meaningless, people should know it already.
Those guys were absolutely charming. I want more videos like this.
Gonna buy their next NX game.
Switch, I mean
Jonneh3003
Banned
Empyrean Heaven
Member
Is Rockstar included under Take 2 and is Blizzard included under Activision?
If so, really the only major standout is CD Projekt Red, especially when they said that they enjoyed the Switch when they saw it (until it later came out they were joking)
If so, really the only major standout is CD Projekt Red, especially when they said that they enjoyed the Switch when they saw it (until it later came out they were joking)
Also Valve, but do you really expect them?
Yautja_Warrior
Member
Really great to most of the big names on board with Nintendo. The Switch has a much better chance than the Wii U did because of this.
The Last One
Member
oops... my bad. I thought you were saying about the Switch list.
Image & Form (Steamworld series) says they had a dev kit before E3 2016. If an indie dev had a kit at that point the major publishers surely did.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=220978758&highlight=#post220978758
Made a thread earlier about Shin'en working with Switch
good god, thinking about what they got out of the wii and wii u
their games are going to look fucking gorgeous on the switch
Ubisoft is gonna port all there games on Nintendo Switch early at least, they did it for WiiU and it was hard to develop for
WiiU got two AssCreed games, Watch_Dogs, Splinter Cell Blacklist, Rayman Legends, ZombiU, and a bunch of other casual games
Also on 3DS they had Splinter Cell and a Ghost Recon game on there at launch
The only Nintendo console where a lot of western 3rd parties came late was Wii
I fully expect Ghost Recon Wild Lands, For Honor, and AssCreed 2017 along with BG&E on Switch
Dark Cloud
Member
All Nintendo needs to make sure when it comes to western third party is they get the yearly games like COD, Madden, FIFA, etc. as a good start.
OH MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN A TOP SPIN ON THE GO WOULD END ME
Logically when you game it out it should be a strong launch for Nintendo unless the price is awful.
Zelda's a winner and is going to move systems in the West. We'll have the new Mario game, Pokemon, Mario Kart, Smash that will move systems.
Splatoon/Dragon Quest XI/Monster Hunter (which is surely coming) will move them in Japan. It logically will get the big Japanese core game titles and RPGs since there's no good place for them to go otherwise.
Taking COD, Madden, Fifa, etc on the go with you is going to appeal to some people. I think they'll get COD and Madden/FIFA by this time next year is just going to require EA getting Frostbite going. That's not going to be tons of people but it's a viable audience when you add up Nintendo fans, kids, and people who may have bought a PSP/Vita in the past.
CrunchyFrog
Member
Because that worked out well for Vita?
Jonneh3003
Banned
Is it? No idea, it's been used in so many games though.
Alcotholic
Banned
Are third parties talking about this thing now?
That list for the Switch to me looks mostly Japanese. Don't go in expecting ports of all the major multiplatform AAA games. I still think we're generally gonna get a souped-up version of the 3DS and Vita software libraries.
Companies like EA, Ubisoft, and Take 2 might try out a few of their ultra-mainstream games like sports games and other really casual stuff (Just Dance from Ubi). EA might try Madden and FIFA, but not Battlefield or Titanfall. Epic being up there pretty much just means Unreal Engine.
Companies like EA, Ubisoft, and Take 2 might try out a few of their ultra-mainstream games like sports games and other really casual stuff (Just Dance from Ubi). EA might try Madden and FIFA, but not Battlefield or Titanfall. Epic being up there pretty much just means Unreal Engine.
AcademicSaucer
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I Wanna Be The Guy
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Vita also had a pretty huge list of third parties on board initially. Rockstar were even on the list. I remember because I remember jumping out of my seat celebrating the inevitable San Andreas Stories that was surely coming. Sigh.
It was online only. Internet connection required to play (anything, even the SP content).
Maybe they'll partner with AT&T and put out a 3G version.
:3
They don't deserve the benefit of the doubt regarding third parties. They have said in the past that they will have constant third parties games than nothing. I think it's more of I will believe it when I see it if Nintendo actually keeps the third parties releasing games because historically they don't have the support since the N64.
I would be fine with that as I was expecting I got either way for this system not to get a lot of western support but it would be perfect for Japanese developers.
Skittzo0413
Member
The list looks very good and is very excited, especially when you compare it to the Wii U list, and when you consider that they wouldn't put a name on the list unless there is actually at least one game coming.
But it's best to advise caution, especially when we have Matt saying as of a few months ago not to expect a massive change in western third party support.
Cautiously optimistic about the support for now.
But it's best to advise caution, especially when we have Matt saying as of a few months ago not to expect a massive change in western third party support.
Cautiously optimistic about the support for now.
ActStriker
Member
Out of the software companies, there's only 5 more Japanese companies.
I'm sure it'll support Wifi obviously, 3DS does.
okay but those third-parties actually delivered games. those lists weren't a deception.
they have - especially on handheld, and in japan.
Hopefully it supports EAP, 3DS doesn't. xD
TreasureHunterG
Banned
We're talking about third-party support.
Could you care to explain why some 3rd parties with historic of antagonism against Nintendo like EA, Take-Two, Epic and Bethesda decided to support Switch after it's biggest flop when they ignored for most of the time it's most succesful platform of all time (Wii)?
Yamauchi was well known to be hard boiled and unfriendly to third-parties. He said he deliberately ordered the N64 to be hard to developed to repel untalented third-parties away. Iwata followed that strictly unfriendly management style toward third-parties at his tenure, especially against western devs. No secret why western support shrinked considerably toward GameCube days.
Devs aren't stupid. They won't ignore a userbase of >100 million because "the hardware is bad" or whatever. The reason why devs ignored Wii was because they had issues with Nintendo and their management. Otherwise, they would have mass supported it. Devs are now supporting Nintendo because there isn't someone in the head of the company antagonizing them.
https://twitter.com/ZoinkGames/status/789467578381066240
Zoink Games (Stick it to the man, Zombie Vikings) are in as well.
EDIT: Better link to their official blog - http://www.zoinkgames.com/developing-nintendo-switch/
Like Image & Form, they state they've been among "the first to get a chance to develop for it".
Zoink Games (Stick it to the man, Zombie Vikings) are in as well.
EDIT: Better link to their official blog - http://www.zoinkgames.com/developing-nintendo-switch/
Like Image & Form, they state they've been among "the first to get a chance to develop for it".