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RWBY |OT| Volume 5 starts October 14, 2017

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So more I watch the intro the more I like it. The animation is still hit and miss but the theme and music/lyrics actually fit the slower paced animation. The series basically kicked everything into high gear from the get go and in season 3 that high gear quite literally hit the brick wall that is known as the plot and shattered the status quo we came to expect from the show. This intro largely resets everything we've known about the series thus far. The villains aren't hiding anymore, team RWBY is separated and all gone different paths (and I don't think they'll end up being a team again until much later on, maybe not until the very end of the series) and they aren't really safe anymore and they know that.

Season 3 was largely about pulling the rug out from under all of the kids, making them realize that heroes don't always win, that people die, and likely one day they will to. They've been forced to grow up much sooner then they wanted or expected to.

On the pulling the rug out with under them part, think about what REALLY happens for a moment at the end of season 3 to our main characters.

Blake - Her ex-boyfriend Adam (who is clearly extremely abusive and is likely the main reason she ran away) toys with her, beats her, he purposefully wounds her and tells her that he'll "Make it his mission to destroy everything she loves." Enter Yang, who he proceeds to disarm (no pun intended) and would have killed her for sure if Blake didn't intervene. She runs away likely fearing for her loved ones.

Yang - Because of Emerald and co. everyone thinks shes crazy or just mean/evil for attacking Mercury at the end of their battle, which already makes her feel alone and helpless not to mention very very confused. No one has yet to learn the truth of what happened either, most people who saw that scene likely still think shes a monster or crazy or something. Then when she goes to help Blake who just got wounded (still being the loyal friend she is) she ends up going against what largely amounts to (thinking RPG terms here) a final boss showing up near the beginning of the game and wiping the floor with her, however unlike most games she doesn't just end up getting beat up a bit, she has her arm cut off. Then after literally losing her arm trying to save Blake, her friend. She disappears, making her mental state pretty much bottom out. The world thinks shes a monster, she loses a limb, and to her it seems like her best friend abandoned her when she tried to save her.

Weiss - The character who goes through the least of the drama and actually has a high note with her being able to summon. However, in the climax shes forcefully taken away from her friends by her father who we've learned isn't the most agreeable person.

Ruby - I think Torchwick actually gives her the best possible development. Flat out telling her that if she wants to be a Huntsman then she can die like one like all the rest. Hes telling her that while she might imagine some epic tale of great heroes defending the world the world itself is much more dangerous and random and to cap that off, Torchwick is then eaten by a Grimm reinforcing that no one is safe (I thought this death so random back then, but thinking back on it and the point hes trying to drill into Ruby at the time, its actually rather genius). Despite that Ruby still believes she can be this awesome hero and when Jaune needs help she rushes to help him and Pyrrah, thinking she'll arrive in time to help Pyrrah only to arrive mere moments late. While this is the trigger for her silver eyes power to awaken and she is able to stop the battle from progressing any farther she awakens to find everything has changed. Pyrrah is dead, Weiss (her BFF) is gone, Blake has disappeared, and Yang has lost all hope. Her team is shattered, so she turns to others to try and continue on because she still feels the need to do something, theres far to much she still doesn't understand.


Now Season 4 is about accepting those reality's and moving forward however they can. I think the lyrics in all of these openings do a damn great job representing the theme of each season but I think this seasons really knocks it out of the park, and the intro largely highlights how each of them is ultimately going to deal with the problems.

Blake - Has run away to her parents(?) to protect them from Adam who she clearly is terrified of if she wasn't already after what happened to Yang.

Yang - Shes the one I don't think will recover easily, and the intro largely shows that. Her seeing her reflection of how she once was hits her hard. Shes struggling more then most and it doesn't look like her fathers going to be able to do much to help (I think Raven is going to show up and help her out of this slump if anyone is but thats just guesswork on my part since the intro doesn't suggest such a thing in the slightest).

Weiss - Despite being forced to return home I think her resolve to get stronger is greater then anyones right now which is why we clearly see her practicing summoning in the intro. Shes likely not being allowed to do anything that she wants to do atm but thats not going to stop her from doing what she wants in the end, I think its likely she'll end up running away from home at some point, but perhaps not right away.

Ruby - Ruby has obviously teamed up with Jaune/Nora/Ren and are trying to find out what is REALLY going on but she also knows now about her power. We see her briefly fighting Tyrion but I'm assuming Crow will likely show up to take him on when that happens. Shes not lost hope like the other memebers of her team have, shes still naive I think but shes not going to let everything that happened get her down. She remains positive at least for now... Until perhaps its revealed if Salem or one of her generals is the one who actually killed her mom. I think there are a few hints in the intro that goes to show that while she is trying to keep moving forward its not as if things haven't affected her shes just keeping that largely to herself since she knows perhaps better then the others that things are long from over and she can't let this get her down.

Well that became much longer then I originally intended but yeah, A lot of things at work in this season and its opening.
 

XiaNaphryz

LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
So more I watch the intro the more I like it. The animation is still hit and miss but the theme and music/lyrics actually fit the slower paced animation.

Slower pacing itself isn't the issue, if the animation and choreography are good enough and matches along with it. When it's middling at best, the pacing issues just creates even more of a disconnect.
 

TrueBlue

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I enjoyed that. The opening scene with Salem and her cronies was nice, particularly in terms of music. The three new minions look archetypal, but I'm interested in seeing them more. Almost felt sorry for Cinder, I wonder if they're gearing her towards more of an antihero vibe - Zuko vibes aplenty.

Team RNJR are gonna be fun to watch. Liked the Geist fight as well, bar some weird shots for the Ruby/Nora team attack finish.

Hoping to see the other three next weekend.
 
I enjoyed that. The opening scene with Salem and her cronies was nice, particularly in terms of music. The three new minions look archetypal, but I'm interested in seeing them more. Almost felt sorry for Cinder, I wonder if they're gearing her towards more of an antihero vibe - Zuko vibes aplenty.

Team RNJR are gonna be fun to watch. Liked the Geist fight as well, bar some weird shots for the Ruby/Nora team attack finish.

Hoping to see the other three next weekend.

Sadly, I get the feeling that we'll have to wait another episode or two to see Yang and Blake again. I get the strong feeling that Episode 2 will primarily focus on Weiss and the stuff going on in Atlas.

But yeah, I really enjoyed the Team RNJR fight. It was neat to see Jaune having to go at it unarmed and rely solely on his wits to coordinate the team to take the Geist down.

And YES, completely agreed on those Zuko vibes in Cinder. By far the most interesting she's been as a character since her introduction in the show. I bet that she won't stay mute forever though. Something about Salem's "treatment" will eventually fix her vocal cords and allow her to speak properly again at some point.

Also, judging by that dialogue and the sort of stuff that happened last volume,
Ruby is definitely either going to lose an eye or go blind at some point in the future. Whether it be Tyrian that does it for shits and giggles or Cinder out of revenge, someone is taking away a part of Ruby's sight down the road.
 
I am surprised no one commented on the complete lack of Neo even in the intro =V

She isnt with Cinder's gang so that means she is just out there somewhere being crazy.
 
I am surprised no one commented on the complete lack of Neo even in the intro =V

She isnt with Cinder's gang so that means she is just out there somewhere being crazy.

I've been guessing since the end of Volume 3 that Neo is going to go after Ruby in Mistral or something to that effect. She wasn't there to see the death of Roman herself, so it makes sense that she'd assume Ruby killed him and want to get revenge for it.
 
So, I know the YouTube upload is a week later, as is Crunchyroll... But are they no longer allowing non-members to watch it on RT the next day?

Or am I misremembering that entirely?
 

Flandy

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Some ramblings on the first episode
I think I'm starting to warm up to the intro. Might like it more than Volume 3s?

Cinder is totally gonna betray her group at some point. Also I predict a large increase in Cinder fanfics in the near future :p

Is the artstyle/graphics kinda weirding out anyone else? Like it technically looks better than Volume 3 but there's something uncanny to me about it. It feels less cohesive and more inconsistent to me. Sort of looks like a cheap MMO.

Still don't like the fight/action scenes but that's something I don't ever expect to return to its previous heights. I'm sort of dreading the fights now tbh. They used to be a spectacle to behold but now I just want them to end quickly since I don't enjoy them much anymore and they're cutting into the plot. Before I didn't mind since the fights were amazing but now? ehhhhhhhhh

Was the continent they were on called Anima? :lol Real subtle guys

Thought that scene with the Bunny on Jaunes sweater along with Rubys laughing felt really forced. I guess Jaunes a D.Va player though

Overall this just felt like an average episode. Nothing really special about it.
 
Ruby's voice has been bothering me for the longest. I can't stand how high pitched it is. I wouldn't mind if her voice pitch went up once in a while for certain scenes but I can't stand how it is for 24/7. Personally, I feel the pitch of her voice was best in volume 1.
 

Gravidee

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Is the artstyle/graphics kinda weirding out anyone else? Like it technically looks better than Volume 3 but there's something uncanny to me about it. It feels less cohesive and more inconsistent to me. Sort of looks like a cheap MMO.

I disagree. The old models looked a lot closer to "some cheap MMO" than the current ones. The new models also don't have the same polygonal edges from before that gave the characters a really video gamey look to them. Much less clipping too.
 

XiaNaphryz

LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
I disagree. The old models looked a lot closer to "some cheap MMO" than the current ones. The new models also don't have the same polygonal edges from before that gave the characters a really video gamey look to them. Much less clipping too.

I get what he's saying, they clearly can do a lot more now and it just makes certain things stand out even more. The textures still aren't great, and there's this a bit of a disconnect in how some things seem to have a lot more little details than others making them feel a lot more flat. The additional lighting also makes some of the shadow work look odd, and the facial animations still can be all over the place. The biggest thing I've noticed is how much the newer character models stand out compared to the enviornments - you have some clean looking models but the terrain's full of lower poly sets with poorer quality textures,
 

SDBurton

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Some ramblings on the first episode
I think I'm starting to warm up to the intro. Might like it more than Volume 3s?

I was the same way. After giving it a listen a couple more times I definitely prefer it over Volume 3. I get what you're saying with the art, like it looks good, but there's something about it that feels off. I got this vibe specifically with
Nora and her eyes.

Episode was good imo, though I give it bonus points due to
Jaune's updated look giving a homage to Pyrrha. While I'm guessing next episode will focus on Blake, I hope we get some Yang screen time.
 

uceenk

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First time i heard the intro, it kind of meh

but after heard it multiple times. it grows on me and play in my head over and over

i like new animation, new villain, spring maiden etc

however there is something off with the fight, i don't know, i feel no longer unique and exciting as used to be

i'm bit of scare right now, thinking they won't achieve fight level epicness on Vol 1 Chapter 8
 
Decided to make a Rooster Teeth account so I can watch this the day after. Impressions time.

Intro:
The song itself I like. Better than Volume 3, though Volume one is my favourite song. What was actually being shown visually wasn't bad. We saw where each member of RWBY is, saw what they are doing, who they are with and what they might be facing. The animation felt like it was in slow motion. it was most noticeable with Blake dodging Adam's attacks and when JNR were killing Grimm.

Episode 1:
We got a glimpse of what looks like the birth of a Grimm. So Emerald and Mercury get to meet the big boss. No Neo, must be off eating ice cream somewhere. They don't seem very comfortable there. Four evil lieutenants, one for each kingdom I guess. No love between the group. So Cinder is now the fusion between Azula and Zuko I see. There is the storng silent guy, the crazy bloodlust guy, and the arrogant mustache guy. To be fair, that is a nice mustache.

So Salem thinks Ozpin is dead. Time will tell if that is true. So we now have the name of the White Fang leader. I knew Adam was the top dog. Team RNJR has a new threat to deal with.

Important random farm boy is important. Related to the spring maiden in some way most likely.

Yah, team RNJR. The naming debate was amusing. I personally think RNJR sound cooler. My first question was where is Jaune's weapon. I was wondering why he wasn't attacking. I see Jaune went to the Team Four Star school of combat strategy. The logic is sound.

I liked the scene at the smith with Jaune getting new armor made from Pyrrha. The shield looks bigger now. I hope we get to see Jaune in action this season. Personally, I think the person who talks to her weapon has no right to laugh at someone having a bunny on their hoodie.

On to Weiss next. Not much to say there since nothing has happened yet.
 
So, I know the YouTube upload is a week later, as is Crunchyroll... But are they no longer allowing non-members to watch it on RT the next day?

Or am I misremembering that entirely?

They changed their policies a couple months back. The release schedule is.

Rooster Teeth Sponsors[First] see the episode first
One day later, everyone signed into a Rooster Teeth account (including non-Sponsors) can watch the episode on the site
Six days after that, the general public can watch the episode on RoosterTeeth.com or YouTube
http://roosterteeth.com/post/51263483

So essentially, sign up for an account and you can view it a day after First Members do
 

Zero-ELEC

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Finally watched the episode. It wasn't bad. The action wasn't as bad as I expected, although it's definitely a step down. Ruby basically flies, now, yes? I don't like that that much. Her scythe moveset also seems more limited, which is also a let down.

I'm guessing this was a Ruby episode and the next is Weiss? Really, it felt like a Jaune episode. :|

I dislike Jaune.
 
Finally watched the episode. It wasn't bad. The action wasn't as bad as I expected, although it's definitely a step down. Ruby basically flies, now, yes? I don't like that that much. Her scythe moveset also seems more limited, which is also a let down.

I'm guessing this was a Ruby episode and the next is Weiss? Really, it felt like a Jaune episode. :|

I dislike Jaune.

That's presumably because her semblance is evolving. Miles and Kerry have mentioned that everyone's semblances will grow and change over the course of the show as they become more experienced.
 

Flandy

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Finally watched the episode. It wasn't bad. The action wasn't as bad as I expected, although it's definitely a step down. Ruby basically flies, now, yes? I don't like that that much. Her scythe moveset also seems more limited, which is also a let down.

I'm guessing this was a Ruby episode and the next is Weiss? Really, it felt like a Jaune episode. :|

I dislike Jaune.

I don't dislike Jaune. I dislike that he seemingly gets a bigger focus than Ruby. Seriously, it's like Rubys a side character in her own show.
 

kayos90

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Fight choreography has watered down significantly for Ruby herself. Just resorting to her stupid Semblance only instead of combat prowess with the Rose.
 
I don't dislike Jaune. I dislike that he seemingly gets a bigger focus than Ruby. Seriously, it's like Rubys a side character in her own show.

You'd think that Ruby, being the one who was skipped forward a grade, would be the one who didn't know things, was behind the rest in skill, got bullied, and needed special training from a friend who would drive her into a super saiyan rage after seeing their death.

But I'm not a writer, I guess.
 
You'd think that Ruby, being the one who was skipped forward a grade, would be the one who didn't know things, was behind the rest in skill, got bullied, and needed special training from a friend who would drive her into a super saiyan rage after seeing their death.

But I'm not a writer, I guess.
I don't dislike Jaune. I dislike that he seemingly gets a bigger focus than Ruby. Seriously, it's like Rubys a side character in her own show.

What a missed opportunity. Anyone would be shocked seeing a classmate die but we barely saw Ruby and Pyrrha interact so her rage moment felt half-hearted

I'm guessing Ruby probably was supposed to go through all of that but Jaune was put into the story as to have some sort of male presence in the leading roles

Im half-convinced the reason Jaune gets so much focus is because he'll be Ruby's future boyfriend lol
 
I'm guessing Ruby probably was supposed to go through all of that but Jaune was put into the story as to have some sort of male presence in the leading roles

Im half-convinced the reason Jaune gets so much focus is because he'll be Ruby's future boyfriend lol

I feel like Jaune was put there because the writers couldn't bring themselves to write the main character being bullied or lacking in the skill department.

Ruby is the only female character other than Pyrrha that Jaune had any significant on screen interaction with. I am excluding Jaune's courting of Weiss since it was pretty one sided.
 

coolasj19

Why are you reading my tag instead of the title of my post?
Im half-convinced the reason Jaune gets so much focus is because he'll be Ruby's future boyfriend lol
Blasphemy!
You'd think that Ruby, being the one who was skipped forward a grade, would be the one who didn't know things, was behind the rest in skill, got bullied, and needed special training from a friend who would drive her into a super saiyan rage after seeing their death.
But I'm not a writer, I guess.
But Juane forged his entrance paperwork. He had no business being there. But if you don't remember, that's the writers fault. For as much time as they spend on Juane, this important fact seems more like trivia all too often.

So my running theory is that Ruby went ballistic on the rooftop and actually fought Conder. Cause a bright flash of energy shouldn't blind and mute you y'know.
 

Flandy

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What a missed opportunity. Anyone would be shocked seeing a classmate die but we barely saw Ruby and Pyrrha interact so her rage moment felt half-hearted

I'm guessing Ruby probably was supposed to go through all of that but Jaune was put into the story as to have some sort of male presence in the leading roles

Im half-convinced the reason Jaune gets so much focus is because he'll be Ruby's future boyfriend lol

You get Jaune away from my White Rose :mad:
 

XiaNaphryz

LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Any other suggestions on updating the thread title? Would be good to get it updated in time for the new ep hitting RT's YouTube channel.
 

caliph95

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