StrongBlackVine
Banned
A bundle for Titanfall and Battlefield on Xbox one week apart would be a bit much so they likely put their own property(Battlefield) as first priority.
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Respawn: Titanfall 2 Release Date Was Locked a Long Time Ago, No Changing It
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A bundle for Titanfall and Battlefield on Xbox one week apart would be a bit much so they likely put their own property(Battlefield) as first priority.
What does the Battlefield bundle have to do with anything I said?
There's a FIFA bundle for the holidays, this is the first time this has happened as they're usually phased out by then. It's a 3 month old game, a sports one that isn't even massively popular in the US in the first place. Just seems like a massive misstep and Titanfall would have been the far better choice and would have helped it out much more than it's gonna help FIFA.
Megatron
Member
Tell that to Allan Wake..,,
StrongBlackVine
Banned
The fact that they are both FPS and both published by EA who has the final in what games they want bundled. Also maybe Microsoft wanted some diversity in their bundles so if they were going to choose one shooter it would be Battlefield. FIFA will sell more than Titanfall over the next 2 months despite being a 3 months old game.
And Rise of the Tomb Raider.
XANDER CAGE
Member
It will sell considerably less considering Call of Duty and Battlefield 1 are competing for the same audience - especially when Battlefield 1's word of mouth seems to be exceptionally good also. Games are expensive and this decision is poor positioning for Titanfall.
31GhostsIV
Banned
Ironic given the Zampella/West Activision situation. Surely EA isn't that stupid?
I've loved what i've played of TF2 so far, it's already gone way beyond my expectations. The single player campaign is a lot of fun, and the multiplayer is basically the most compelling COD mp since Modern Warfare 2 with mechs thrown in. It's a joy to play.
Given how Battlefront was last year, I haven't bought BF1 on the grounds that it probably has few maps and hides all of the upcoming content behind one of EA's patented bullshit season passes. Correct me if i'm wrong, but I promised myself after Battlefront I wouldn't fall for Dice's shit again.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
I'm passing on Titanfall 2 because of Battlefield 1. I only need one new shooter this Fall so despite being interested in this game I'm passing for now. They have similar scores so I'm going with the IP I'm familiar with and confident that I will enjoy. My thoughts will not be unique...
But Battlefield and Call of Duty aren't the same audience...
AHA-Lambda
Member
This is naive.
There are loads of great games/movies/tv shows etc that didn't do well commercially and vice versa
freeofgreed
Member
It's sad that EA pretty much sent this game out as a sacrificial lamb to try to dilute IW's sales as much as possible.
UpDownLeftRight
Banned
Ok you're wrong. DICE have once again stuck to their typical BF model which most would agree is damn good value as far as DLC goes. Battlefront is an anomaly in that they've never made one before. Battlefield season passes have always been worth their asking price and the base game is not short of content.
Katana_Strikes
Member
Eh? Just like TR, making the game exclusive failed to give the IP the best launch it possibly could and it turn hurting them and potential future games in their respective series. Holding out on a far bigger install base cost the IP from potentially being a break out hit and making it a top tier shooter. What's left is, by initial anecdotes, a mostly unknown quantity to PS4 gamers and a shocking release schedule, a poor launch of a sequel to an IP that was supposed to be the second coming of Christ. So as you see, on both occassions they were botched leaving a franchise that could now be closer to dead than a rising star, if sales of this one are indeed bad.
Good luck with that one.
You are aware the game wasn't getting made if MS didn't step in with cash to fund it right? EA weren't willing to fund it any more. If not for MS there wouldn't even be a Titanfall 2 on any platform let alone Playstation.
Don't forget Respawn went to Sony first and even Sony turned them down.
It's the best selling exclusive this gen and everyone who's played the first one was highly regarded, how is that not being a break out hit or making it a top tier shooter? Sure, it being multiplatform would have helped it more, but that's the case for literally every exclusive.
Not in this forum. That's why we have so many threads like these.
Bolivar687
Banned
So they're still with that "I don't know what it sold. I don't care" mentality.
Even if it was set long ago, everyone knows CoD releases the first week of November and Battlefield 3 and 4 both came out late October. They should have fought like hell to get a better date. Saying you don't know where the date came from is concerning.
Even if it was set long ago, everyone knows CoD releases the first week of November and Battlefield 3 and 4 both came out late October. They should have fought like hell to get a better date. Saying you don't know where the date came from is concerning.
Jawmuncher
Member
Was pretty obvious, especially with the game fuel promotion.
Yup, maybe when it gets heavily discounted for the SP
GhostOfSparta305
Banned
You mean Respawn's work.
XANDER CAGE
Member
In broad market share? They absolutely are. You'll get no argument from me if you want to break down the nitty gritty differences between the two - they're pretty different as far as shooters go - but we're talking about a wide, wide audience here, including the "I only buy one or two games a year" audience and the "parents buying a Christmas present" audience and many others who don't see subgenre differences as clearly as you or I might.
Battlefield and Call of Duty and Titanfall's audiences - the people in the know - are not all the same, but on the store shelf, they will all be competing at once to get people into their audience. Very few people will buy two of them. Even fewer will buy all three. I doubt Titanfall will be at the top of that stack for many people, regardless of its actual quality.
Plus, again, subgenre differences aside, at the end of the day they are all shooters. Not many people will be buying two or three shooters to play at the same time, whether they know about the differences between them or not.
Doesn't matter in this case. They're huge titles and they suck up all the air and mindshare and everything else can lose out on their launch hype cycle. GTA does the same thing to other games when it launches.
OverBlood 3
Banned
I think Titanfall 2 will have longer legs than the other two games and this is the first time PS4 players can get in on this game. Personally I'm so tired of COD and BF.
I wasn't even playing on buying this game until they said 'no season pass' I bought it digitally because of it too.
However there's no doubt this will have some impact due to oversaturation of similar games. So yeah it's still stacked against them thinking about it. It'll sell fine.
I wasn't even playing on buying this game until they said 'no season pass' I bought it digitally because of it too.
However there's no doubt this will have some impact due to oversaturation of similar games. So yeah it's still stacked against them thinking about it. It'll sell fine.
Bf1 is very fresh IMO
100%. Personally I'd love to pick it up, as I loved Titanfall 1, and the reviews are super solid for this, but I'm jumping in to Battlefield next week and simply don't have the time for both.
UserDoesNotExist
Member
I was in this boat until yesterday, but three things caused me to pull the trigger for BF1:
- I already know I like Battlefield games,
- By all accounts, this one is a great one-of-those that isn't broken at launch, and
- 2 years down the road, I will be able to pop in my disc and find games to play.
Had this game been released in August or March, they would have had a sale.
BrahReally
Member
Ahh, what a thread title fit for box quotes.
RichiRamjag
Member
BF1 is a damn good game. You don't have to try to take away from it to pump up titanfall.
entremet
Member
You don't build franchises on hope, bud.
tearsintherain
Member
Thats an awful claim to make, what if the game is wretchedly buggy or incomplete before launch? You can't postpone it and just release crap ala Assassin's Creed Unity or No Man's Sky?
Fortunately T2 is pretty good but still, nothing wrong with delaying a game, never hurt sales of Uncharted 4, South Park, FF15, Witcher 3, etc.
Fortunately T2 is pretty good but still, nothing wrong with delaying a game, never hurt sales of Uncharted 4, South Park, FF15, Witcher 3, etc.
GhostOfSparta305
Banned
"BF4 reskin" is a bit much but I agree, TF2's probably the biggest breath of fresh air for the genre in quite a while.
TimeEffect
Member
BF4 was the reskin.
BF1 is a surprising breath of fresh air. You'd know it in the smaller details, especially if you played a lot of BF3/4.
Seems like EA has totally screwed over Respawn yet again.
First, XB1 exclusivity making Titanfall a second Tier FPS when it could have been this gen's Gears of War (the hype was only matched by PS4 owner's hate), and now releasing between the two biggest FPS games of the season for it's second attempt to cement itself as a popular FPS franchise which pretty much guaranteeing a massive loss of sales.
First, XB1 exclusivity making Titanfall a second Tier FPS when it could have been this gen's Gears of War (the hype was only matched by PS4 owner's hate), and now releasing between the two biggest FPS games of the season for it's second attempt to cement itself as a popular FPS franchise which pretty much guaranteeing a massive loss of sales.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Where is this info? I have a hard time believing it since they wanted West and Zampella badly.
OfTheOverflow
Member
I respect their choice to do the free DLC route, and am really disappointed that BF1 stayed as a paid season pass. Will pick up TF2 when I'm done with BF1.
Will "No season pass!" slogan matter that much if brand love and recognition isn't there?
"Will I pick this game I know and I know to like, even with season pass, or this another game that I have never heard of yet looks like game I know to like?"
A lot of people are probably feeling that way, or they are waiting for their next COD.
Good word of mouth will bring it there. I've no interest in the game before and it was what bring me here.
Yeah anecdotal evidence and all of that, but it's not like Respawn didn't know any of this and not doing any form of mitigation.
I want to hear from you what a good season pass is? And please for the love of god don't say The Witcher.
On topic, considering how rainbow six is doing they're might be some truth to this.
Woo-Fu
Banned
All part of EA's plan. Buy BF1, buy TF2, no money left for CoD.
People complaining about BF1's season pass are kind of silly. What is the season pass? It is paying up front for all the expansion content. If you don't want to do that, don't do it. Does it stop you from purchasing any of the expansions? No it does not. If you want the maps you can get the maps without a season pass.
Now splitting up the mp community with paid mp expansions? that is a different problem that exists whether or not there is a season pass promotion.
People complaining about BF1's season pass are kind of silly. What is the season pass? It is paying up front for all the expansion content. If you don't want to do that, don't do it. Does it stop you from purchasing any of the expansions? No it does not. If you want the maps you can get the maps without a season pass.
Now splitting up the mp community with paid mp expansions? that is a different problem that exists whether or not there is a season pass promotion.
entremet
Member
It that was it, what a dumb plan.
fastballspecial
Member
Game is so damn good. It'll be a complete shame if it flops sales-wise. 