It's the opposite, it's smart, ps4 gets the "superior" game while NX gets the "inferior" portable version with the side effect of confusing people making them think that NX isn't a hybrid handheld/home but just a glorified handheld that's going to have "inferior" portable games.
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Capcom wants to grow Monster Hunter in West, feels handhelds are limiting sales there
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It's the opposite, it's smart, ps4 gets the "superior" game while NX gets the "inferior" portable version with the side effect of confusing people making them think that NX isn't a hybrid handheld/home but just a glorified handheld that's going to have "inferior" portable games.
SmokedMeat
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Traditional handhelds are a dying breed. Putting Monster Hunter on consoles and PC as well as handhelds would make sense.
PSFan
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But DQ XI is already confirmed for PS4. However, it isn't confirmed for Switch, despite many people thinking otherwise.
Things are different now. The handheld should get their Cross/3rd etc, home consoles should get the numbered MH games alongside season pack updates etc, since that works better on home consoles than it does handheld.
AsylumBlue
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Where's Verendus?
Home consoles are even more dead in Monster Hunter's core market.
Pretty much. Whatever MH game comes out, it's going to be on Switch because of Japan's portable love. It'd also be the cheapest way Capcom could make MH in HD.
The Dear Leader
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A game like Monster Hunter would do really well on Steam.
Huh, it is confirmed for the Switch.
Yep I can see multiplatform happening if thats the way they want to go but I doubt it will be exclusive.
IceDoesntHelp
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I will take MonHun on PS4 or Switch. So bring it.
It's dumb for Sony because they'd be paying a lot of money, not for exclusivity, but to prevent one platform from getting it that doesn't seem to be trying to directly compete against them and wouldn't necessarily increase the amount of people who'd buy a PS4 version. It'd be dumb for Capcom because it would shut off the potential revenue for a portable version that would likely do well in Japan.
Agreed. MH has been held back by handheld hardware and aging assets for years. The biggest issue is if they go with Switch as well as PS4/XB1, they aim for the lowest denominator but at least the PS4/XB1 versions will perform amazingly well.
nephilimdj
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Tri did just fine on both at once, 1.9 on Wii and 2.6 on 3DS
Sammy Samusu
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Capcom is not entirely satisfied with 1 million copies sold of MH4U. They think handhelds are limiting it's potential in the west. So just how many copies MH5 PS4 would have to sell to make Capcom satisfied? Probably a lot more, otherwise they wouldn't make the jump for extra 500k sales.
And how many copies would MHT PS4 sell in Japan, Capcom's DOMESTIC market? Barely 1 million, considering the console charts in that country? MH4 sold 4 million copies.
So yeah, I don't see MH5 PS4 being the success Capcom wants. It won't sell much better than MH4U in the west, and it will sell a lot worse than MH4 in Japan. You do the maths.
Not necessarily true. It depends on which system it's developed for (Nintendo) and how they bring it to the other consoles. The power is there for it to run better on beefier hardware but it's not the only factor.
DeaconKnowledge
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Capcom should make a new series specifically catered to Western gamers. Monster Hunter needs far too many alterations to be that franchise.
I thought that was the point of Dragon's Dogma to be honest.
I thought that was the point of Dragon's Dogma to be honest.
So, Nintendo did all of that to secure Capcom support, yet Capcom paired down all development on the both the Wii U/3DS (for example in spite of sales like the 3DS version Resident Evil Revelations sold the most copies on the 3DS yet the Resident Evil Revelation 2 skipped out on Nintendo platforms) except for the 3DS versions Monster Hunter but Capcom expect to get the same type of deal with the Nintendo Switch for Monster Hunters. WTF? No wonder Nintendo doesn't think that it will be worth it.
Talking about the 4chan rumor with MonHunter 5 being console exclusive and Sony paying to not have a Switch version.
Sammy Samusu
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And look how it sold. Kekekekeke.
Isaac Otherworld
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You don't have to have massive endless open worlds just a single well constructed map that makes sense. Monsters leash and give up the chase in Souls and you don't have to eat two or more loading screens to do it. You can have monsters flee across the map without loading screens, especially since almost all of them can either fly, borrow underground, or run faster than the player character.
It would be easy to rework the maps in Monster Hunter Tri into a single zone with load screens and while keeping all the arenas roughly the same. No extra terrain. No additional running. It would actually be faster to traverse because you aren't eating 30+ seconds of loading every time you leave a room.
I mean if you could at least get Ocarina of Time style instant loading of zones it might be so bad.
I get that people love the Monster Hunter games, but the constant load screens grinding the game to a complete halt are indefensible.
Cross play is the answer but not everyone wants to share in the console space. In a coop focused game, no system would have an advantage over the other. MH is a perfect crossplay game... except its Capcom we are talking about...
AsylumBlue
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It was at 2.3 million in September of last year, which was before the Steam release which sits at 435,926 ± 17,042. It did remarkably well for being such a late PC port.
Sammy Samusu
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But one thing is curious. If MH5 is being developed for PS4? How are they planning to build the userbase on that console?
You know, we got tons of FF and RE games on PS4 before the main course FFXV and RE7. It's a well known strategy and we have seen it happening for a long time now.
Why did they not announce MHXX for PS4?
You know, we got tons of FF and RE games on PS4 before the main course FFXV and RE7. It's a well known strategy and we have seen it happening for a long time now.
Why did they not announce MHXX for PS4?
All while killing the series in Japan. It would be a fabulous train wreck to watch.
Sammy Samusu
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That was one of my main worries. There wont be crossplay so you effectively split it up. I guess it will be in Sony and Nintendo's court there to allow that.
clay_ghost
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Basically MH switch confirmed.
How on earth were you playing it that it took thirty seconds to load a new area? That's not normal..
Agree on your concept- in particular Deserted Island always felt like a place where the areas fight natural right next to each other. Not so sure about places like Ancestral Steppe on MH4 though, or the various mountain areas where area transitions hide moving a huge amount of distance vertically, often from the bottom of a mountain to the top in a handful of seconds. However, new area design can always take place with that in mind.
I'd just ignore there people whining at the thought of the games coming to ps4 when they had no problem with the game being on Wii or Wii U.
If we are to believe that NX is close to X1 in power and can get ports easily from Ps4 level games then why wouldn't games designed for the NX be easily ported to ps4/x1.
Also the strawman of pointing to the failure of SFV as a reason not to put the game on ps4 is hilarious. Shall we pretend Media create threads are pretty devolved into "if game x were on 3DS it would have sold better".
No excuse not to at least try being multiplatform.
If we are to believe that NX is close to X1 in power and can get ports easily from Ps4 level games then why wouldn't games designed for the NX be easily ported to ps4/x1.
Also the strawman of pointing to the failure of SFV as a reason not to put the game on ps4 is hilarious. Shall we pretend Media create threads are pretty devolved into "if game x were on 3DS it would have sold better".
No excuse not to at least try being multiplatform.
Well they said that comment about overseas market, but in that case only the "home console" version would be localized (just an example) if Nintendo don't handle the publishing.
Uh...yes it is. DQX too. They were re-confirmed weeks ago.
AsylumBlue
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You can section off parts of the map without loading screens if the game is on capable hardware.
Sammy Samusu
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https://youtu.be/lumFSUDdsTc
The 2 secs loading screens sure have some of you hot and bothered.
Wooooo.
The 2 secs loading screens sure have some of you hot and bothered.
Wooooo.
moozoom
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If the next mainline game releases on PS4, I won't play it as much probably.
Monhun is one of the few games I can play co-op with my boyfriend and with other friends locally or online. Being on PS4, there probably won't be split screen co-op and thus we won't be able to play together, and single player is fun until you get to higher ranks where co-op is needed and more fun. I love to have Monhun parties where we gather and do some hunts.
A switch version would be perfect on the contrary, like Tri on wii U : one player on the TV and 3 others on the couch with portable switch units.
Monhun is one of the few games I can play co-op with my boyfriend and with other friends locally or online. Being on PS4, there probably won't be split screen co-op and thus we won't be able to play together, and single player is fun until you get to higher ranks where co-op is needed and more fun. I love to have Monhun parties where we gather and do some hunts.
A switch version would be perfect on the contrary, like Tri on wii U : one player on the TV and 3 others on the couch with portable switch units.
get ready for open world monster hunter 5 w/ batman combat
Seeing as the localisation would have to be paid for and exist whether it was on home console or portable, and would apply to both, wouldn't it just make more sense to go for PS4/Switch multiplat in all regions?
ArtHands
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Well the fanbase is on Nintendo platforms.
Capcom should just keep making MH for Japan and treat Western sales as a bonus. I don't want them to ruin the series by trying to "make it appeal to the West" by getting rid of the clunky controls, segmented areas, non skippable animations, [insert common MH complaint here]....
The segmented areas bothered me too when I watched gameplay videos but then I played the game and I prefer it this way.
And theycan't easily rework the maps because some loading screens take you from one end of the map to the other. Theyd have to add interconnecting areas and thus increase the travel time considerably.
30+ seconds loading? You have no idea what you're talking about. When was the last time you played or even saw a Monster Hunter game?
The segmented areas bothered me too when I watched gameplay videos but then I played the game and I prefer it this way.
And theycan't easily rework the maps because some loading screens take you from one end of the map to the other. Theyd have to add interconnecting areas and thus increase the travel time considerably.
If the series had some actual Monster Hunting in it, the loads screens are unnecessary. Tracking habitat, or footprints, or even how the wildlife react would be way more interesting than paintball tagging and staring at a minimap. Hunting would actually take more skill if you had to learn about the Monster, not just the 3 zones a website tells you it goes to.
Have you played any of the recent 3DS games? The load times are so short that I can't imagine anyone objecting at all. They've come a long way from the PS2 and PSP installments.
Consumer's eyes aren't investor's eyes, the more people spend for NX the less will spend for PS4, every competitor is a competitor, no matter what kind of platform it does, people should stop being so naive to think that if 2 consoles or games are of different kinds then they aren't in competition, people's budget is limited and every console and game fight to get the most of it.
sublimit
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Or in other words they probably didn't agreed with Nintendo's offer for another gen of MH exclusivity. I assume now that there is no Vita around to steal 3DS sales Nintendo must have offered them less money than before.Or maybe they made a deal that future MH will be Switch exclusive only in Japan.
Still i find it very hard to believe that cheap-ass/play-it-safe Capcom will resist the urge to not develop another MH for the 3DS when its install base is so wide (in Japan) and it's so cheap to develop for.
Still i find it very hard to believe that cheap-ass/play-it-safe Capcom will resist the urge to not develop another MH for the 3DS when its install base is so wide (in Japan) and it's so cheap to develop for.
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