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[KAL2006]

I expect Switch, PS3, PS4 multiplatform release

 

[Thoraxes]

I'm cool with whatever they do, but I really hope whatever they choose, they don't split the userbase.

It would kill the multiplayer community. If they could magically guarantee cross-platform play i'd be all on board, but I definitely do not want it spread thin.

 

[Ridley327]

Sure I will take MH on PS4 if multiplayer is free.

That will not happen unless it's f2p, and going by how that feature "works" in MHFO, Capcom already has a really strange idea of what you are able to do as a f2p title.

You're either paying for a console subscription, or you're paying for a game subscription.

 

[Neoxon]

I'm cool with whatever they do, but I really hope whatever they choose, they don't split the userbase.

It would kill the multiplayer community.

If MH5 goes PS4/Switch, that depends on if Nintendo & Sony play nice for cross-system play (like SFV's PS4-PC cross-play).

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

Stop bullshittin and put it back where it goes

 

[Nirolak]

So, let me divorce my analysis from the 4chan rumor for a second.

Capcom, in the last five years, has had the following Monster Hunter product lines:
- Monster Hunter Mainline: Traditional Monster Hunter game on a handheld.
- Monster Hunter Generations/Portable: Traditional Monster Hunter game on a handheld that fills in the gap between mainline entries.
- Monster Hunter Frontier: MMO-ized version of Monster Hunter run as a service for Japan.
- Monster Hunter Online: MMO-ized version of Monster Hunter run as a service for the rest of Asia.
- Monster Hunter Explore: Casualized version of a traditional Monster Hunter game.
- Monster Hunter Stories: Turn based RPG focused at younger children.
- Monster Hunter Diary: Poka Poka Airou Village: Village management.
- Otomo Drop Monster Hunter Stories: Match 3 mobile game.

I think if Capcom came out and announced that - given the growing success of the brand overseas - they were making a new Monster Hunter spin-off targeted at the West for PS4/XB1/PC/Maybe Switch, and that the main differences between it and the traditional games is that it changed aspects the West didn't like in favor of aspects that are more popular in that market, it would not be a very surprising announcement. In fact, this is actually what you would expect a company to do when they have so many different product lines in a single brand and seem interested in making even more.

What I think really trips people up is that the 4chan rumor stats they're doing this with the next mainline Monster Hunter game, and then having a separate Portable line for Switch. Given the West is not the main market for the series, you would expect the Western product to be the spin-off instead. Once we get past that though, I really don't think this is something that would be weird or bizarre assuming we view Capcom as a company that can still afford to make HD console titles.

 

[R0ckman]

Souls and Monster Hunter are not the same at all. For one there is no lock on in MH and it can cause issues when a monster blocks the entire screen by jumping in front of you.

A lot of challenge from MH is fighting outdated design and putting up with it. That won't fly with most westerners.

Also has anyone gotten the surveys from Capcom? I know I brought it up before but tgey are looking at big change uos to the series, like health bars for monsters and no timer. I took a survey about this stuff around 4Us release.

 

[reson8or]

They gambled on Nintendo and made a mistake. Had they sided with the PS4 as platform of choice, it would have grown exponentially in the west, especially in the Twitch/Streaming era of gaming. Just my 2 cents.

 

[AsylumBlue]

Seems like it, and 4chan (with the most recent archive use of the original post) has a quote that quotes these as well as the original, and they seem to come from the same source:
http://boards.4chan.org/vg/thread/158559686#p158562935 and http://boards.4chan.org/vg/thread/158601558#p158651575 which all seem to chain back to the original.

Which reads like confused nonsensical bullshit.

Or one of the greatest dramadies to soon unfold.

Yeah, those additional posts, if they're from the original poster, sound pretty far-fetched. At least, if it's about a mainline "Monster Hunter." But if it weren't, then the "panicking" wouldn't make sense.

 

[sanstesy]

Seems like it, and 4chan (with the most recent archive use of the original post) has a quote that quotes these as well as the original, and they seem to come from the same source:
http://boards.4chan.org/vg/thread/158559686#p158562935 and http://boards.4chan.org/vg/thread/158601558#p158651575 which all seem to chain back to the original.

Which reads like confused nonsensical bullshit.

Or one of the greatest dramadies to soon unfold.

Hahaha, oh my god. If this is real this is really as dramatized as it gets. Makes the original rumor he posted less credible because this seems just so insane, but what do I know.

 

[DrROBschiz]

If MH5 goes PS4/Switch, that depends on if Nintendo & Sony play nice for cross-system play (like SFV's PS4-PC cross-play).

Cant see it happening

Seems more likely there will be two sets of series again like what they did during the PSP/3DS crossover days

Seems weird but who knows

Also split userbase arguments are ridiculous. Never been an issue for any major multiplat without cross play

Yeah sure its nice but not a requirement and doesnt kill a franchise

Souls and Monster Hunter are not the same at all. For one there is no lock on in MH and it can cause issues when a monster blocks the entire screen by jumping in front of you.

A lot of challenge from MH is fighting outdated design and putting up with it. That won't fly with most westerners.

Also has anyone gotten the surveys from Capcom? I know I brought it up before but tgey are looking at big change uos to the series, like health bars for monsters and no timer. I took a survey about this stuff around 4Us release.

Lock on was introduced in 3G (soft Lock) and has been iterated on since

Yes its not identical to Souls. No one is saying they are identical. Its not a stretch to say they share a lot of mechanical similarities

 

[Thoraxes]

If MH5 goes PS4/Switch, that depends on if Nintendo & Sony play nice for cross-system play (like SFV's PS4-PC cross-play).

I'd hope for the best, but expect the worst. And there's no way in hell i'll pay for an online service in 2017, so I really don't want to be excluded from MH MP if it ever comes to something like PS4.

I also just can't imagine not being in the same room playing MH as my friends. That's been a defining trait of the series to me, to be able to gather with my friends in the same room and just hunt. If it ever went home console only, i'd be massively disappointed and maybe even pass on it just because the local multiplayer experience is so important to me.

 

[Kinsei]

Yea fucking noob western console gamers ruin everything. It's not like we are the #1 supporter of the #1 action RPG series right now or anything. But I guess Souls is 4 noobs that can't beat a great jaggi

Monster Hunter and souls games are very different games so I have no clue why they're always brought up together. The only thing they have in common is that they're difficult by today's standards.

I think MH needs to evolve eventually and let's not pretend it's perfect as it is (even though it is heh heh).

I welcome changes and additions. Why? Because I trust the developers..

I wish I still had that trust. I've seen way too many series die because they tried to appeal to a wider audience for me to trust any company when it says stuff like this.

 

[jonno394]

It's also ridiculous to just discredit that rumor after what Capcom said here, 4chan or not.

No, your twisting what Capcom have said to suit your desire for the rumour to be true, all Capcom have said is that handhelds are a smaller market overseas they "are taking the proper procedures to make sure that Monster Hunter grows overseas". This could mean anything from marketing the hell out of the games (moreso than before), moving to mobile, making spin offs that suit western desires etc, but not, because of this comment and the 4chan rumour "there's no smoke without fire" that MH will now be a Sony exclusive funded by Sony.....OK.....

 

[mugurumakensei]

They gambled on Nintendo and made a mistake. Had they sided with the PS4 as platform of choice, it would have grown exponentially in the west, especially in the Twitch/Streaming era of gaming. Just my 2 cents.

yea, I mean look at SFV. 1.4 million between. PS4 and PC. I mean MHX which sold 4.9 million wishes it could achieve 1.4 million copies shipped.

 

[Gotdatmoney]

I think you are misunderstanding me

They push the SKU the will perform in Japan and do something else for Global

Honestly Switch makes the most sense but it also doesnt make sense to ignore the global install base numbers

Based on what they are saying here they intend to serve BOTH markets soo... Capcoms words not mine

The issue is that until Switch was this possible? They did 3U on WiiU (and I was hoping for 4U on WiiU) but I dont think they would have gotten away with that on PS4.

I agree now that we know what Switch ia this makes sense. I am saying that they literally couldnt do thia however until recently. I am also saying unless Sony wrote a big ass check that 4chan rumour is not true.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

In the beginning games like RR5, VF5 and Gundam Musou were all underperforming on PS360. The only company who really hit the ground running was Capcom on 360 with Dead Rising and Lost Planet. Of course they also hit it big on Wii with core games immediately with RE4 and REUC tripling and doubling their targets respectively. Too bad they never followed that up with a real ground up Wii RE bit then that was sort of emblematic of how 3rd parties approached Wii. If you don't put in the work you won't get the rewards.

And where are all these companies talking about their PS4 success? At best we get IR multiplat results but that's virtually never platform specific and often even folds in last gen. Koei Tecmo in particular has been doing awful on basically every platform in the west recently (bar Wii U, lol). And we both know you don't really need me to comb through the NPD or PAL charts for you to cite DQ Heroes, Toukiden or SFV, I've seen you pulling defense in those threads too.

RE5 massively oversold any effort on the Wii cementing PS360 as the place to be.
KT has had year on year increases due to the reception of their recent titles, many if not all being on PS4. Check their fiscal reports.

At this point its clear you have no real basis on your claims. I've asked for these sales figures that undermine JP third party decision and expectedly you sidestepped. Seems like most of your basis is on your feelings.

If you think a PS4/X1 monster hunter is going to come close to what 4U did you're kidding yourself. The games still sell 4 million units in Japan and currently about 1 million in the West. Where are you expecting the sales to appear from?

I 100% believe they have to move the series to consoles at some point. But there is literally no way they can make up the lost Japanese sales internationally if the go console only.

Maybe Capcom is fine with that. Who knows but arguing like this was Capcom ignoring the market is literally pie in the sky wishing.

They can split it into a portable line and console line.

 

[El Topo]

yea, I mean look at SFV. 1.4 million between. PS4 and PC. I mean MHX which sold 4.9 million wishes it could achieve 1.4 million copies shipped.

SFV has legs so strong it's gonna sell for centuries to come.

They can split it into a portable line and console line.

I think that only works if they distinguish the two lines enough, which would be possible if the console version was aimed at the West.

 

[Orayn]

Don't tell me it's unrealistic for Capcom to cancel a great series after a misguided revamp in a world where DmC exists.

 

[shadow2810]

That will not happen unless it's f2p, and going by how that feature "works" in MHFO, Capcom already has a really strange idea of what you are able to do as a f2p title.

You're either paying for a console subscription, or you're paying for a game subscription.

Main reason why I will stick to handheld version, assuming Nintendo will not add online service subscription. But if they do though,... lol.

 

[ZeroX03]

They gambled on Nintendo and made a mistake. Had they sided with the PS4 as platform of choice, it would have grown exponentially in the west, especially in the Twitch/Streaming era of gaming. Just my 2 cents.

I'm not sensing sarcasm, but it has to be there, right?

 

[DrROBschiz]

The issue is that until Switch was this possible? They did 3U on WiiU (and I was hoping for 4U on WiiU) but I dont think they would have gotten away with that on PS4.

I agree now that we know what Switch ia this makes sense. I am saying that they literally couldnt do thia however until recently. I am also saying unless Sony wrote a big ass check that 4chan rumour is not true.

The 4 chan is rumor is interesting but I dont think anyone here accepts it as real

All my arguments are based on Capcoms statements in the OP

 

[Neoleo2143]

Great news. I'd love monster Hunter on other platforms.

 

[MacTag]

I'm curious about this, can anyone post the sales numbers for the entire series across all platforms? Would be appreciated.

From Capcom IR, million sellers only;

Monster Hunter Freedom (PSP) 1,300,000
Monster Hunter Freedom 2 (PSP) 2,400,000
Monster Hunter Freedom Unite (PSP) 3,700,000
Monster Hunter Tri (Wii) 1,900,000
Monster Hunter Portable 3rd (PSP) 4,900,000
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate (3DS) 2,600,000
Monster Hunter 4 (3DS) 4,100,000
Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate (3DS) 4,100,000
Monster Hunter Generations (3DS) 4,100,000

Better stop that decline asap, PS4 save us!

 

[reson8or]

yea, I mean look at SFV. 1.4 million between. PS4 and PC. I mean MHX which sold 4.9 million wishes it could achieve 1.4 million copies shipped.

Are you joking or being serious? Apples and Oranges. SFV released piecemeal and incomplete and without an Arcade and Story mode. You must be joking...

 

[Saint Gregory]

What I think really trips people up is that the 4chan rumor stats they're doing this with the next mainline Monster Hunter game, and then having a separate Portable line for Switch. Given the West is not the main market for the series, you would expect the Western product to be the spin-off instead. Once we get past that though, I really don't think this is something that would be weird or bizarre assuming we view Capcom as a company that can still afford to make HD console titles.

That was pretty much the same take I had back in the thread where the 4chan rumor was originally discussed. The idea that Sony would moneyhat a game called MH5 that had little in common from a gameplay perspective to the main series while Nintendo continued to receive what is essentially the traditional experience makes no sense. A westernized spinoff for the western focused consoles on the other hand sounds like a really good idea.

 

[DrROBschiz]

From Capcom IR, million sellers only;

Monster Hunter Freedom (PSP) 1,300,000
Monster Hunter Freedom 2 (PSP) 2,400,000
Monster Hunter Freedom Unite (PSP) 3,700,000
Monster Hunter Tri (Wii) 1,900,000
Monster Hunter Portable 3rd (PSP) 4,900,000
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate (3DS) 2,600,000
Monster Hunter 4 (3DS) 4,100,000
Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate (3DS) 4,100,000
Monster Hunter Generations (3DS) 4,100,000

Better stop that decline asap, PS4 save us!

They are just setting up for the Future. 3DS is just about done bro. XX is only projected at 2 million (we will see how it actually does)

It makes total sense they would look in Ps4's direction when pushing for global growth

 

[Gotdatmoney]

They can split it into a portable line and console line.

Certainly a possibility. You think Sony money hatted it though?

As I said. They have to go to consoles eventually. Handhelds are dying. I just don't see why they would want to split the franchise like that.

 

[Eolz]

Main reason why I will stick to handheld version, assuming Nintendo will not add online service subscription. But if they do though,... lol.

Nintendo might add some optional subscription in the future for more revenue, but will likely never do paid online. They won't risk it when they try to attract everyone.

 

[Vena]

Yeah, those additional posts, if they're from the original poster, sound pretty far-fetched. At least, if it's about a mainline "Monster Hunter." But if it weren't, then the "panicking" wouldn't make sense.

Hahaha, oh my god. If this is real this is really as dramatized as it gets. Makes the original rumor he posted less credible because this seems just so insane, but what do I know.

Oh its crazy shit, but its funny to read and pontificate upon especially if it is the same source and it is legit, lol.

Makes no fucking sense to me, but then I do not share in the foresight of Capcom which allows them to see beyond the veil of time and foresee strong legs for SFV.

 

[Saint Gregory]

They are just setting up for the Future. 3DS is just about done bro. XX is only projected at 2 million (we will see how it actually does)

It makes total sense they would look in Ps4's direction when pushing for global growth

It's projected to do 2 million in about 2 weeks of sales.

 

[TheBaldEmperor]

yea, I mean look at SFV. 1.4 million between. PS4 and PC. I mean MHX which sold 4.9 million wishes it could achieve 1.4 million copies shipped.

Yeah I feel like this is important to look at. Let's not overreact. I do get this is Capcom so who knows what they will do, though. Best to wait and see.

 

[Ridley327]

Souls and Monster Hunter are not the same at all. For one there is no lock on in MH and it can cause issues when a monster blocks the entire screen by jumping in front of you.

A lot of challenge from MH is fighting outdated design and putting up with it. That won't fly with most westerners.

Also has anyone gotten the surveys from Capcom? I know I brought it up before but tgey are looking at big change uos to the series, like health bars for monsters and no timer. I took a survey about this stuff around 4Us release.

I could understand dropping the timer as it's not really a factor outside of the super massive gimmick monsters, but I cannot imagine a single monster in the game taking anyone 50 minutes on their own unless they're being willfully ignorant of how gear progression works and cannot grasp the basic gameplay fundamentals. I know I'm biased since I'm a series-long vet, but people that can't put away even a basic wyvern in 50 minutes should not be playing the series at all: it is so not for them.

 

[NSESN]

They are just setting up for the Future. 3DS is just about done bro. XX is only projected at 2 million (we will see how it actually does)

It makes total sense they would look in Ps4's direction when pushing for global growth

XX is projected to do 2 million in a month, with, probably, no western release

 

[Gotdatmoney]

The 4 chan is rumor is interesting but I dont think anyone here accepts it as real

All my arguments are based on Capcoms statements in the OP

There have been a number of posts here taking it with some validity. Unless it's a money hat (whichbis fine I dont care) I think its rubbish. I think MH5 hits switch/PS4.

 

[Immaculate]

They are just setting up for the Future. 3DS is just about done bro. XX is only projected at 2 million (we will see how it actually does)

It makes total sense they would look in Ps4's direction when pushing for global growth

their fiscal year ends march 31st

its coming out march 17th

 

[Vyse The Legend]

They are just setting up for the Future. 3DS is just about done bro. XX is only projected at 2 million (we will see how it actually does)

It makes total sense they would look in Ps4's direction when pushing for global growth

Potential growth (console only approach to cater to the West) vs. guaranteed success (by ensuring the Japanese market has a handheld version available). A sizable Sony moneyhat could offset Japan sales loss a bit but likely not entirely.

 

[Kindekuma]

Having played Tri and 3U to death, there's just something different about MH on a console than a handheld. Playing Portable 3rd and Freedom Unite with friends in the same room instead of online is just a way more fun experience. I think Monster Hunter works best as a portable franchise.

Capcom should stop flooding the market with yearly entries. Now that Double Cross is coming out there'd be no reason for me to get around to buying a current MH game.

 

[DrROBschiz]

There have been a number of posts here taking it with some validity. Unless it's a money hat (whichbis fine I dont care) I think its rubbish. I think MH5 hits switch/PS4.

Probably because the comments that Capcom is making seem to correlate with the rumor in a small way

I get the small connection but its not like its anything but a minor coincidence at this point

 

[Oregano]

Oh its crazy shit, but its funny to read and pontificate upon especially if it is the same source and it is legit, lol.

Makes no fucking sense to me, but then I do not share in the foresight of Capcom which allows them to see beyond the veil of time and foresee strong legs for SFV.

Can't go on 4chan at work. Would you be kind enough to summarise?

 

[fhqwhgads]

Honestly this just comes off as Capcom realising how badly their franchises are floundering and since Monster Hunter is one of their only franchises they haven't screwed up yet they're banking on it to put the company back on track.

Lord help Capcom is Resi 7 underperforms or else Monster Hunter might be their only reliable franchise left.

 

[DrROBschiz]

Potential growth (console only approach to cater to the West) vs. guaranteed success (by ensuring the Japanese market has a handheld version available).

Is anyone suggesting they arent going for BOTH?

Outside of the 4 Chan rumor?

 

[Sakujou]

monster hunter 5 for switch.

Honestly this just comes off as Capcom realising how badly their franchises are floundering and since Monster Hunter is one of their only franchises they haven't screwed up yet they're banking on it to put the company back on track.

Lord help Capcom is Resi 7 underperforms or else Monster Hunter might be their only reliable franchise left.

lord?

when capcom released mega man games, no one gave a fuck. there were so many sub-series, so many games which were released each year... most people simply complained about all that output. now everyone wants it back. no one will buy those games, thats for sure.

resident evil 4+5+6 were the best games for capcom, they were sold more than any other game before. so it would be stupid for capcom to ruin it.

 

[Vyse The Legend]

Is anyone suggesting they arent going for BOTH?

Outside of the 4 Chan rumor?

Yes? A lot of people in this thread are, which is why I said in an earlier post that the only practical, reasonable options here are: PS4/Switch or just Switch. (Short of an astronomical moneyhat.)

 

[Mpl90]

Oh its crazy shit, but its funny to read and pontificate upon especially if it is the same source and it is legit, lol.

Makes no fucking sense to me, but then I do not share in the foresight of Capcom which allows them to see beyond the veil of time and foresee strong legs for SFV.

Yep, I've read those posts and...what in the holy hell, that would be insane :lol
I will not believe for a second that Sony moneyhatted MH5, but still funny to read all the rest, and it still states MHXX is for Switch as well, in order to "set up" for MHP Switch, as their own way to save themselves from MH5 getting rejected by the market.

However, the drama from this chain of posts is insane. I mean the drama inside Capcom of course.

 

[Immaculate]

Having played Tri and 3U to death, there's just something different about MH on a console than a handheld. Playing Portable 3rd and Freedom Unite with friends in the same room instead of online is just a way more fun experience. I think Monster Hunter works best as a portable franchise.

Capcom should stop flooding the market with yearly entries. Now that Double Cross is coming out there'd be no reason for me to get around to buying a current MH game.

as long as they keep selling over 3 million copies with yearly releases that add marginal content every subsequent G release, they're gonna keep being yearly lol

 

[DrROBschiz]

Yes? A lot of people in this thread are, which is why I said in an earlier post that the only practical, reasonable options here are: PS4/Switch or just Switch. (Short of an astronomical moneyhat.)

I dont understand why a moneyhat would be neccesary given the global install base but I agree that Switch support is basically guaranteed

 

[Omega Kirby]

I would love to see them try. To make MH a success on PS4/XBO not only would Capcom have to change the gameplay up and make it more friendly and modern for new players, they'd also have to finally implement 21st century graphics and tech, which I'm sure they would hate to no end.

So you mean they'll release Monster Hunter to PC, not consoles

 

[Broadbandito]

Just do Monster Hunter on PS4 already

 

[Gotdatmoney]

Probably because the comments that Capcom is making seem to correlate with the rumor in a small way

I get the small connection but its not like its anything but a minor coincidence at this point

Well its been the main talking point (besides delusional people thinking capcom mishandled the franchise for the last 8 years).

The franchise is coming to Consoles at some piint. It is inevitable. It is nore about what model they use.