SmokedMeat
Gamer™
I think all of the positive talk about the single player campaign will get people on board.
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GI.biz Op-Ed: Titanfall 2 a "commercial failure," "a victim of chest-beating pride."
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thepenguin55
Member
I would say the cause in the sales drop has more to do with the competition than the technical demo. I would be curious to see hard numbers on how many people didn't buy Titanfall 2 because of the beta. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a Modern Warfare 2 situation where a bunch of people on Steam created an anti MW2 group and said they weren't going to buy MW2 but then when you checked their Steam accounts on launch day they were all playing MW2.
Trogdor1123
Member
Well I bought titanfall and its the most fun I've had in a shooter in a long time. People who don't get it are missing out.
The article seems to be based on just a bunch of assumptions?
I'm sorry, but there's not much to discuss here. If you want to do some armchair analysis, maybe you could at least wait until you have more data on sales figures (from multiple regions), sales trends and player engagement on top of having information about the budget of the game.
I'm sorry, but there's not much to discuss here. If you want to do some armchair analysis, maybe you could at least wait until you have more data on sales figures (from multiple regions), sales trends and player engagement on top of having information about the budget of the game.
Kwansu Dudes
Member
I'm really curious what the percentage of "mostly for campaign" people is. I see a decent amount of people here say it, but my instinct tells me it's not a large number.
Though I would have thought they catered to different audiences. At least BF and TF2 does.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Titanfall is unique enough there is potential for the community to grow, I think. The only hitch might be if weak initial sales hamper Respawn's pledge to provide free maps and modes to keep the game vital. Right now it does need a lot more maps and possibly some mode modifications and playlist reorganization.
macfoshizzle
Member
Don't they know that Jason West is not with the company anymore?
RedAssedApe
Banned
Low player counts online kind of give you an idea of "player engagement"
U.K. Sales figures are below Tf1 by a decent amount despite releasing on multiple skus.
Do you seriously expect them to do research before writing an article?
Please. That's too hard.
truestatic
Member
Loved Titanfall. Titanfall 2 being sent out to die is a damn shame. That Respawn will suffer for it... Well, if my money could change the game's fortunes I might be willing to buy against my own good sense but this season is just too packed and that's not realistic.
No you didn't. He said universally. Your edit is redundant. :x
No you didn't. He said universally. Your edit is redundant. :x
Really bad release choice obviously. The first one ,except for mega fans, was treated as meh... and this one.. released already I guess? No hype(outside of megafans), but great reviews. but its target audience -shooter bros- have Battlefield and COD.. so pretty ballsy move.. did not pay off for them cotton. Not a fan, but never fun to see a well reviewed/made game get shat on.
My bad. Missed that.
Plenty of examples that prove that this isn't always the case.
Angry Fork
Member
Both Titanfall 1 and 2 look lame with an ugly as fuck boring color palette and not much that sets it apart from COD imo. I wish I knew art terminology so I could explain in detail why it looks so ugly but I can't, it's just something I feel intuitively, it looks like Socom 4's coloring. There's some kind of filter over everything that makes it all brownish, bloomy, and dampens the vibrancy. I don't know how else to describe it. If you look at a mountain in the game with foliage it's like you can hardly see the foliage because it feels so close in color/tone to the mountain, compared to other games where the difference is very stark/obvious. I hate when games look like this it's so bad to me.
As for gameplay the mech stuff isn't interesting to me nor is wall running. If you want a game like COD you'll get COD, if you want a different kind of FPS I don't see why anyone would pick Titanfall over something like Battlefield 1 or Counter Strike or Overwatch/TF2. The problem isn't EA trying a risk it's risking everything on a game that looks meh.
As for gameplay the mech stuff isn't interesting to me nor is wall running. If you want a game like COD you'll get COD, if you want a different kind of FPS I don't see why anyone would pick Titanfall over something like Battlefield 1 or Counter Strike or Overwatch/TF2. The problem isn't EA trying a risk it's risking everything on a game that looks meh.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
I dunno what they expected.
This sudden onslaught of fpeeshooters will do that. They literally drowning consumers in pee and are forcing a fatigue
This sudden onslaught of fpeeshooters will do that. They literally drowning consumers in pee and are forcing a fatigue
CrimsonGun
Member
Same could be said to you. There are a lot of better ways to say a lot of better. lol
I'm not a person who writes for a profession, nor was I correcting his grammar so way to miss the point I guess.
Dougieflesh
Member
Game looks to be struggling to attract an audience on PS4. Whoever chose that date between EA and Respawn are dumb as fuck.
Not only was the release date stupid but trying to sell PS4 owners on a numbered sequel to an Xbone exclusive was always going to be difficult. Why would those players spend money on a sequel to a game they never played when BF1 and COD are out at the same time?
It was foolish of EA to think they could build a successful FPS franchise on the back of a very slight multiplayer-only title that was exclusive to Xbox.
It was foolish of EA to think they could build a successful FPS franchise on the back of a very slight multiplayer-only title that was exclusive to Xbox.
Zeouterlimits
Member
The game needed a marketing blitz and some air space for said marketing blitz.
Absolutely.
meanspartan
Member
Will it really kill the franchise though?
This CLEARLY would have sold well had it launched at a sane time. Would EA really not see that obvious fact?
This CLEARLY would have sold well had it launched at a sane time. Would EA really not see that obvious fact?
Milly Osworth
Member
Do games only sell in the first few days after release?
ZehDon
Member
Article is weird, but there's no denying it'll be interesting watching consumer's reaction to Titanfall 2 in the long run. No one expected much from the campaign, and the beta was near-universally shat on. And then the campaign turns out to be amazing, and the multiplayer is digital crack. Deserves to sell well.
Complicated
Banned
Combination of people who didn't get into the first game, people who loved the first game and are disappointed at what TiF2 has become, one of the best years for games in a long while (First person shooters in particular), and multiple big hardware launches this holiday.
They should've waited till next year and rebalanced the game to play more like the first one.
They should've waited till next year and rebalanced the game to play more like the first one.
All I'm hearing from some of you is sympathy for a dev that got thrown under the bus but still chose to get another game instead. TF2 is the best shooter of the big three and I say that as Battlefield fan.
I gagged that you gagged at Respawn making the next Star Wars game
March of the Crabs
Member
I love this game a ton but I tried to play Free for All today and there were 17 people playing that mode in my region (Canada). Depressing.
CosmicQueso
Member
Seems like things are going well between Respawn and EA at the moment...
Katana_Strikes
Member
If US sales are as bad as the UK decline I'm not sure why you'd want to continue the franchise. Sales were pitiful. People want to put hope in it somehow having legs or a resurgence aka R6 but I fail to see it. It's dead in the water this year and early next year is packed too.
Interesting, so it's EA tweeting this stuff out not Respawn
Wow! That's kind of nuts. Updated the OP!
Chobel
Member
What the hell is going on?
NoLongerALurker
Banned
EA sent it to die but so did Respawn with their garbage tech test. The group of people I regular play with on XBL all bought our XB1s when TF1 came out and that game made the $500 price tag including Kinect worth it. Then the tech test for TF2 happened and literally none of us bought the game. People say it's better than the tech test but shit we have too many other pretty much guarantee options available for us like Gears and Battlefield so we're not taking the chance.
EA do the right thing and make the game available on EA Access so we can try it and see if it really is better than what the tech test showed.
EA do the right thing and make the game available on EA Access so we can try it and see if it really is better than what the tech test showed.
Respawn*
It's Respawn, not EA.
Maybe I'm reading into it too much, but Respawn sounds pissed.. have to imagine EA forced the release date on them to compete with CoD and these tweets are only making the situation worse.