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PlayStation 4 Pro Reviews
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Yep.
Silent Hill
Banned
^^Exactly this.
I wasn't dissing him I just don't think he had a lot of research done on the system after listening to the beastcast. Also he has always been more focused on the content of games then the performance.
I mean, if they are imperceptible and he was unimpressed, what does that intricate knowledge really bring to the table except confirmation bias?
I would rather read the Cnet review than have time magazine tell me they were "giddy" from the inky blacks in CoD.
Didn't they release within the window where they are supposedly required to have a patch for launch? Or is it just that the patch is required but not necessarily before PS4 Pro launch?
Bits N Pieces
Member
Are sites giving an actual score for the hardware? Can't access any of the reviews right now.
Looking at screens of TR or Titanfall I wouldn't say the IQ improvements are imperceptible.
InsaneTiger
Member
So CNET being around 4K and HDR all the time are not impressed by the Pro.
DOWN
Banned
It was never the only skeptical review in the OP so let's not act like it was about that and more than dumbness on my part seeing it in part after it and its author's tweet impressions were first out
Who wants a score lol
People can judge it for themselves plenty of vids out there now.
DF goes into detail of the differences.
It's not about unique features. It's about building a separate branch of their game from the start or early in development, instead of having to graft it on with a patch later. This will make a significant difference what devs can do with the pro.
Always-honest
Banned
It's their opinion. Just like the "it's amazing" reviews.
But somehow this review was TOTALLY on point for you.
It might be not completely on point for others.
As a gamer i thought they made some weird choices and i allready think the differences in some games are worth it for me.
People will have to make up their own minds.
We don't all see the same things. My girlfriend can't tell 480P from Mp3. (yeah, you read that correctly).
Op shouldn't have put a verdict on the review though.
Karspankey
Banned
Looking great, 1800p Watch Doggies Dos will will be mine \ (◡) /
He wasn't blown away, take that information as you will, but I don't think holding his hand and showing him the better shadows is going to change his mind.
Complicated
Banned
No way. People can agree and disagree with opinions? I refuse to believe that.
InsaneTiger
Member
On point for you, but not others. People can decide for themselves.
JonnyWeedShoes
Member
Y'all are just upset the Cnet review isn't saying "OMG buy a Pro it's so worth it."
I don't count framerates when I play games but I sure as hell can notice a difference in quality.
Bakalar's Cnet review seems well written and fair, he (and alot of other sites) are saying the difference in older games is tough to see. Wait til new games come out when those developers had PS4 Pro info during production.
GAFers just tryin to jump on the Cnet bandwagon hate, unreal. I love Beastcast, listen to Bakalar all the time, dude know's what's up
I don't count framerates when I play games but I sure as hell can notice a difference in quality.
Bakalar's Cnet review seems well written and fair, he (and alot of other sites) are saying the difference in older games is tough to see. Wait til new games come out when those developers had PS4 Pro info during production.
GAFers just tryin to jump on the Cnet bandwagon hate, unreal. I love Beastcast, listen to Bakalar all the time, dude know's what's up
What? I never said anything about shadows. Just from seeing the IQ improvements I don't see how you could say they are imperceptible. If he said not worth the money to him I could understand but you can tell the difference.
Nope, I've barely noticed it. I will say that it does vibrate a little with the disc drive, so I use some sorbothane pads under all of my systems (cheap furniture = echo central), but in terms of system noise it's super quiet
Thanks man, it's tricky to balance the site and a 9-5 but when people appreciate stuff it makes it worth it
jabberwocker
Banned
What about the 1080P remote play reviews where are those ?
64bitbros
Member
PackAPunchedMick
Member
Have console reviews always been a thing?
Can't remember the X1 and PS4 being reviewed :/
Can't remember the X1 and PS4 being reviewed :/
Bits N Pieces
Member
I just noticed a lot of the reviews were giving PSVR a scoring rating when its embargo dropped a few weeks ago and to be honest there's that much information and misinformation around the Pro right now I'd just like to see an aggregate score of 8.5+ and then I know I'll be buying the Pro over the Slim next year
nelsonroyale
Member
Let me guess, you haven't go the system...Therefore, you are just projecting another example of confirmation bias...kind of weird to call others out by drawing attention to your own transparency...
Interfectum
Member
Does anyone know this yet?
I trust df. They know there shit. Thats enough for me.
Fact is with the pro and a 4k i will get a better visual experience the rest of this console gen on my sony device. Probably even more so on scorpio too.
Thats enough for me, i play a lot of games for it to be worth the change.
Fact is with the pro and a 4k i will get a better visual experience the rest of this console gen on my sony device. Probably even more so on scorpio too.
Thats enough for me, i play a lot of games for it to be worth the change.
DOWN
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This flies against what devs and Cerny say about Pro and how it is going to be utilized for games, particularly considering it is supposed to be quick to work on and will only play games that also work on base model
well I will have mine in 4 days, so I will see in RL then, but from videos posted by DF and others, difference is sometimes huge, sometimes less but in general, it is very easy to see even if you dont care about graphics.
So them saying that difference cant be seen is just false... now if people dont care about graphics, then it is something else.
My C6 is only 55", but the streetlights, signs, neon lights and superpowers are mindblowingly beautiful. They pop out of the screen like crazy with HDR enabled - the colours are incredible too. It looks great either way, but amazing in HDR.
But then, it's the type of game that thoroughly takes advantage of OLED's strengths, with bright lights in a nighttime setting. LCD's will likely perform better with HDR in brighter daytime settings, if that's what they used to test.
wesleyshark
Banned
They both got reviews
PackAPunchedMick
Member
Exactly this.
The Pro is an enthusiasts upgrade, better frame rate, better resolution, better IQ.
Nothing really more to say.
Massively agree with you there, I saw it a playstation event on a sony hdr tv & the difference between it being switched off & on was massive. especially with the neon powers, it looked amazing & defo sold me on hdr.
Magic Mushroom
Member
I don't know, this seems a pretty big difference to me in both detail and frame rate.
But everybody's mileage varies when it comes to things like frame rate, supersampling, better AA and so on.
from Eurogamer article
also this
WOW
thats amazing for power consumption honestly......fantastic
Nobody has the system now besides reviewers
I also can see a formula to dictate whether it will be significant or not for you.
A screen size to distance from TV type of deaI.
I know I notice downsampling IQ on my TV, but I am also quite close to mine, to someone 3 feet further it could be imperceptible.
everthustodeadbeats
Member
Lol at the CNET review. No clicks given for your C league reviewer.
TetraGenesis
Member
I'm not saying his review is poor or objectively wrong -- everyone's opinion is valid -- but in terms of technical knowledge and awareness, has Jeff Bakalar ever come off as extremely savvy or discerning?
If he says the difference is hard to see then the difference, to him, is hard to see. That could very well be the experience of thousands of consumers. You can't ignore his viewpoint. Just don't go expecting the depth of a Digital Foundry breakdown.
So let's keep the "clickbait" stuff to a minimum, okay?
If he says the difference is hard to see then the difference, to him, is hard to see. That could very well be the experience of thousands of consumers. You can't ignore his viewpoint. Just don't go expecting the depth of a Digital Foundry breakdown.
So let's keep the "clickbait" stuff to a minimum, okay?
Come on man this is just petty.
Serious Sam
Member
Pro is simply slightly ahead of its time.
With some time, general public opinion will change dramatically, once all video reviews are from Pro version, once multiplayer gamers spread word of mouth how their games have fewer to no fps drops, once games are developed with Pro in mind are released.
With some time, general public opinion will change dramatically, once all video reviews are from Pro version, once multiplayer gamers spread word of mouth how their games have fewer to no fps drops, once games are developed with Pro in mind are released.
SprachBrooks
Member
Uncharted 4 not using checkerboarding, is that performance related then? Can't imagine why a Sony-owned studio wouldn't demonstrate a technique they invoked during the presentation of the console.
Awesome contribution.
ND is probably busy with their upcoming DLC