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Literacy Not A Right For Detroit School Kids According To State
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FortuneFaded
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https://www.michigan.gov/documents/snyder/Third-Grade-Reading-FINAL_479442_7.pdf
We all know that the ability to read is crucial for success in life, and that starts at the earliest of ages. In middle and high school, all academic subjects require a student to be a proficient reader. A student who cannot read will not be able to succeed in any subject.
From Rick Snyder's own state address last year.
We all know that the ability to read is crucial for success in life, and that starts at the earliest of ages. In middle and high school, all academic subjects require a student to be a proficient reader. A student who cannot read will not be able to succeed in any subject.
From Rick Snyder's own state address last year.
A 2011 report showed 47 percent of Detroiters were functionally illiterate
Wow.
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Michiganders hate Detroit. With the recent election results, the city is especially fucked. I can easily see all the progress the city has done going down the drain.
Skellig Gra
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It will just get worse when that generation has kids. We are so screwed.
Wow.
Yep. I remember we had a article posted on gaf about this years back. Hasn't improved since :\
pirateluigi
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I have been considering moving out of state, but I have to stay long enough to vote this guy out of office. Between this and Flint I sincerely hope he gets trounced.
Wow.
The most prosperous country in the world!
yanipheonu
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This is what I would call a "Catastrophic Failure of Education".
Intheflorsh
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How much of a cynical creep do you need to be to claim that reading isn't a fundamental part of education?
A 2011 report showed 47 percent of Detroiters were functionally illiterate — meaning nearly half of they were not able to fill out basic forms for getting a job or having a command over basic understanding for such things as reading a prescription bottle.
Hmm....
FortuneFaded
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Look at him, showing off: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65Uc21GXCRs
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Jesus fucking christ
That is a horrifying stat for any city, but especially one in such a wealthy country. Every child in this country deserves to have their school be properly staffed and maintained to give them a great education that will help them in life after required education.A 2011 report showed 47 percent of Detroiters were functionally illiterate meaning nearly half of they were not able to fill out basic forms for getting a job or having a command over basic understanding for such things as reading a prescription bottle.
How about "a 100% literacy rate is beneficial for the greater community and is something our education system should make every effort to achieve". Sure, argue that it's not a constitutional right (which, really, I don't think it is) but be honest and say that half of your city being unable to read puts a huge burden on everyone.
That is a horrifying stat for any city, but especially one in such a wealthy country. Every child in this country deserves to have their school be properly staffed and maintained to give them a great education that will help them in life after required education.
Absolutely agree. Sometimes in our bubbles its hard to imagine this country is so massive and different. There is so much wealth and waste in this country. Basic liberties and the betterment of our society should be our baseline. We absolutely have the tools and wealth to do it.
Garmonbozia
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Literally unbelievable.
Literacy is a human right.
Literacy is a human right.
Snowybreak
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Violent revolt.
Hmm... You might be right.
GoldenEye 007
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Education isn't mandatory in your country?
It's mandatory that students of a certain age go to school. Now the quality or competence of that education.....
TheChocolateWar
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I mean, where is it codified in either the Michigan state constitution or the U.S. constitution? Are you claiming it is a substantive due process right? Case law?
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Flint also still doesn't have clean water.
What the fuck is his ideal for society?
What the fuck is his ideal for society?
Education isn't mandatory in your country?
It is, but education is not equal.
Education isn't mandatory in your country?
It is mandatory to actually achieve a degree in your country?
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Are you actually getting defensive over this?It is mandatory to actually achieve a degree in your country?
AbortedWalrusFetus
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Since when is literacy a right? It's a public benefit, but a constitutional right? That's a weird concept to me. Not to downplay its importance, as it's extremely important, but why should it be a fundamental right? Even the UNs Universal Declaration of Human Rights does not list literacy as a right. It does list education, but does not specify further other than saying education at an elementary school level. Even according to that Detroit is in compliance.
Now, it's a damn shame and a public embarrassment and needs to be fixed, that's for sure.
Now, it's a damn shame and a public embarrassment and needs to be fixed, that's for sure.
So.. you think the story is false?Literally unbelievable.
but does not specify further other than saying education at an elementary school level. Even according to that Detroit is in compliance.
sincerely doubt this
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Make no mistakes, this story is about assholes ruining their community or letting it stay ruined and avoiding responsibility for it. We're talking about what a shithead's lawyer said to let him off the hook, not some sort of minimum viable product presentation to convince stakeholders.Since when is literacy a right? It's a public benefit, but a constitutional right? That's a weird concept to me. Not to downplay its importance, as it's extremely important, but why should it be a fundamental right? Even the UNs Universal Declaration of Human Rights does not list literacy as a right. It does list education, but does not specify further other than saying education at an elementary school level. Even according to that Detroit is in compliance.
Now, it's a damn shame and a public embarrassment and needs to be fixed, that's for sure.
Is the end goal here to privatize the grade school system? I mean, if literacy isn't a right and people want to privatize healthcare because that's not a right, we may as well! Why should I be paying for your kids to go to school? Take responsibility for your own damn life!
/s This has been my argument to people opposed to socialized healthcare recently, but here I thought things like education were untouchable.
TheChocolateWar
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So then why even have laws that require public schooling? Might as well let children decide for themselves.
Because the decision making faculties of an individual aren't really even fully developed until like age 21 or 22.
Is the end goal here to privatize the grade school system? I mean, if literacy isn't a right and people want to privatize healthcare because that's not a right, we may as well! Why should I be paying for your kids to go to school? Take responsibility for your own damn life!/s This has been my argument to people opposed to socialized healthcare recently, but here I thought things like education were untouchable.
I believe this to be the case. Much like how the privatization of the prison system has made many wealthy. Watch the Netflix documentary 13th if you feel like hitting your head against a wall.
Because the decision making faculties of an individual aren't really even fully developed until like age 21 or 22.
I know why, that was rhetorical. The point is if it doesn't matter if they learn or not there isn't much point in the law.
Since when is literacy a right? It's a public benefit, but a constitutional right? That's a weird concept to me. Not to downplay its importance, as it's extremely important, but why should it be a fundamental right? Even the UNs Universal Declaration of Human Rights does not list literacy as a right. It does list education, but does not specify further other than saying education at an elementary school level. Even according to that Detroit is in compliance.
Now, it's a damn shame and a public embarrassment and needs to be fixed, that's for sure.
Saying "education" is human right implicitly assumes that literacy is encompassed in that since it's one of the most basic aspects of education. The fact that yes, elementary schools technically exist is not a very compelling argument that the spirit of a right to education is being upheld, especially in the face of widespread disrepair and poor outcomes for students.
TheChocolateWar
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Saying "education" is human right implicitly assumes that literacy is encompassed in that since it's one of the most basic aspects of education. The fact that yes, elementary schools technically exist is not a very compelling argument that the spirit of a right to education is being upheld, especially in the face of widespread disrepair and poor outcomes for students.
Why does "education" necessarily encompass "literacy"? There are plenty of trades where book learnin' aren't required.
shattyboombatty
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Education isn't mandatory in your country?
have you seen who we elected lately?
DontBeThatGuy
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Articles like this should be shared among everybody, but this country doesn't actually give a shit, and I'm at a loss at what can be done.
Why does "education" necessarily encompass "literacy"? There are plenty of trades where book learnin' aren't required.
Literacy encompasses more than "book learning". Try going through society not knowing how to read or write. I'll give you a hint, IT"S DIFFICULT!
TheChocolateWar
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Literacy encompasses more than "book learning". Try going through society not knowing how to read or write. I'll give you a hint, IT"S DIFFICULT!
Difficult, sure, but necessary? Convince me of it.
Difficult, sure, but necessary? Convince me of it.
Convince yourself. If you don't know why having a large segment of society not knowing the basics of getting by in life is bad then you're a lost cause.
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