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[Cindi Mayweather]

me tbh



are there any cute ones at least

Yes! Plenty! Check this!

 

[Frozenprince]

He has to fire a separate one for every point the Longhorn football team gives up every weekend.

HEYYYYOOOOOOO

Ey at least we got a chip in the last decade.

 

[Bronx-Man]

You're right. Their violence. I don't have the time or patience to post the litany of examples of black people being abused and killed not just in the last year alone but throughout the history of this country. The article in the OP itself mentions how black people were lynched and run out of their homes. The reaction to stuff like this has been almost completely and totally nonviolent. I hate the stupid ass expression Jewish people sometimes say to justify whatever sort extreme measures they want to take against their perceived enemy but at some point black people need to say "never again."

Not calling for a race war or anything so extreme but reading you say violence begets violence has been mostly untrue in the case of black people in the face of racists.

Hmm. You're definitely right about that. God, fuck these people for even making me fearful enough to consider this. Goddamn the bigoted fucks that wanna walk around feeling bold and goddamn Donald Trump himself.

 

[Aselith]

If anybody wants shotguns I quite literally have well over a hundred and can offer recommendations.

Yo, you took Biden's advice too far, man.

 

[Discotheque]

I'm of two minds on this. The struggle of believing heavily in self-defense but also pacifism . Black, hispanic, muslim, gay, trans, we all need to protect ourselves now more than ever, but I can't help but feel that violence begets violence. And there's already so much damn bloodshed around us.

Thats the right attitude to have but its gonna be harder and harder to stick to that ideal in the coming future

 

[Jonm1010]

You're right. Their violence. I don't have the time or patience to post the litany of examples of black people being abused and killed not just in the last year alone but throughout the history of this country. The article in the OP itself mentions how black people were lynched and run out of their homes. The reaction to stuff like this has been almost completely and totally nonviolent. I hate the stupid ass expression Jewish people sometimes say to justify whatever sort extreme measures they want to take against their perceived enemy but at some point black people need to say "never again."

Not calling for a race war or anything so extreme but reading you say violence begets violence has been mostly untrue in the case of black people in the face of racists.

You shouldn't separate out and ignore all of the other risks associated with personal and societal gun ownership and just focus on one thing. It is going to cloud your decision-making.

 

[AYF 001]

This is also my struggle. I don't know how to feel about it.

First, see how you like the feel of using a weapon when you're at the range with your boyfriend. If it turns out you're not comfortable at all using one under ideal circumstances, then you shouldn't rush into the investment of gun ownership. Most people use guns as a tool for intimidation, but if they draw while looking like they have no clue how or no will to operate it, its use as a deterrent is gone.

I feel conflicted about increasing the amount of potential violence in the world myself, but if violence occurs, I'd rather the innocent party be able to use it to their advantage.

Trying to be philosophical about fear feeding into firearm sales: If the only thing we have to fear is fear itself, wouldn't it be rational to fear those whose irrational fear has led them to hatred, now bordering on suffering?

 

[Kite]

Any recommendations for a pistol for home protection? I'm no gun expert, but am familiar with the M9. I like how easy it is to take apart and clean, but hate the awkward slide mounted safety and grip. Something lighter and smaller would also be nice.

 

[Frozenprince]

Yo, you took Biden's advice too far, man.

I only got two right now in this house with me and one is damn near a hundred years old.

My Winchester is bae tho.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

I've thought about buying a gun but idk if I'll actually do it

 

[Jonm1010]

Like I tell all my married friends that are old enough to get the reference. Tell your wife you don't wanna be Fredo and drop the gun when the time comes. Take her with you to the range and do the safety training together. It tends to ease the mind just a bit



Kinda like saying people with pools are more likely to drown in the backyard than people without. Its one of the worst catch all statistics out there. Lack of responsibility is a bigger factor I think. Just be safe and careful and never act like you know how to shoot when you don't. Instructors are more than happy to teach.

Everyone is a responsible gun owner until they are not...Or their gun is stolen or they needlessly escalate a criminal situation with confrontation that didn't need it or they feel particularly depressed or they underestimate the cunning of their kids to find the gun safe code and accidentally shoot their friend in the leg(like happened in the neighborhood I grew up in as a kid).

Plus, the need for those statistics stems primarily because advocates like to argue a gun reduces risk. No parent is realistically arguing their pool is reducing the risk to their kids from drowning. You accept that, gun owners, and you are showing it, try to rationalize that almost self-evident fact away despite all the evidence telling us that like pools, the risk is there and the costs of harm outweigh any assertion of benefit from enduring it.

 

[ThisGuy]

Hell fucking yes.

 

[Cindi Mayweather]

First, see how you like the feel of using a weapon when you're at the range with your boyfriend. If it turns out you're not comfortable at all using one under ideal circumstances, then you shouldn't rush into the investment of gun ownership. Most people use guns as a tool for intimidation, but if they draw while looking like they have no clue how or no will to operate it, its use as a deterrent is gone.

I feel conflicted about increasing the amount of potential violence in the world myself, but if violence occurs, I'd rather the innocent party be able to use it to their advantage.

Trying to be philosophical about fear feeding into firearm sales: If the only thing we have to fear is fear itself, wouldn't it be rational to fear those whose irrational fear has led them to hatred, now bordering on suffering?

I've used guns before and I am a solid mark. I haven't used one since I was a teen though. It certainly won't be my first rodeo. My daddy has three to four guns. It's been so long though that I want a refresher.

 

[Frozenprince]

I've used guns before and I am a solid mark. I haven't used one since I was a teen though. It certainly won't be my first rodeo. My daddy has three to four guns. It's been so long though that I want a refresher.

Absolutely take a course or two, imo. Learning maintenance is as important as safety.

 

[Satch]

frozenprince just give me one of yours


edit: omg beyonce foretold this

 

[GloriousBagel]

What happened to GAF being really anti gun?

Fuck it I'll be me some assault rifles and hand guns.

 

[Poindexter]

Get armed, folks. Join us in the GAF gun thread in the community forum.

 

[cdyhybrid]

What happened to GAF being really anti gun?

Fuck it I'll be me some assault rifles and hand guns.

What happened? White people elected a guy taking cues from neo-Nazis.

 

[richiek]

If this keeps up, we will actually see GOP lawmakers call for stricter gun control laws.

 

[theignoramus]

Dream: Guns are a symbol of black oppression, if blacks have guns they can stand up to their white oppressors.
Reality: Spike in black-on-black gun violence.

Maybe, just maybe they'll scare some white gun-folk into reconsidering their hardline positions but I doubt it, probably better to hope for learning diversity through new NRA members.

The Black folks buying firearms in a legal manner arent using them for drug dealing & crime. Theyre law abiding, middle class folks new to gun ownership. If you wanna worry about something, worry about improper storage of firearms in the family home, cause that leads to fatalities.

 

[ponpo]

Not more people. More non-white people. If there's anything that will get Republicans and gun nuts to care about con control, it's black/brown people getting guns.

Maybe, but what you're suggesting is either than the gun lobby starts conceding where they weren't before, giving up some of their previously had "white" rights, or that legislation comes out that specifically targets non-whites.

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

ugh

 

[GloriousBagel]

What happened? White people elected a guy taking cues from neo-Nazis.

So what should we do?

 

[AYF 001]

I've used guns before and I am a solid mark. I haven't used one since I was a teen though. It certainly won't be my first rodeo. My daddy has three to four guns. It's been so long though that I want a refresher.

Okay, it sounded that way to me at first. Personally, my AR only consists of a small series of parts only considered a firearm by the bare legal definition, since I refuse to have a fully operational weapon in my house without the proper means of storing it. If it ever gets built, I'll probably have my friend lock it in his safe, since it'll hopefully never see use outside of the range near him. I just want people to be resolute in these decisions and not take it lightly, since that's inviting disaster.

As for your purchasing decisions, my advice that you don't purchase anything without at least having one in your hands first. I'm a lefty, so most guns give me problems one way or another, which I have to keep in mind when browsing. That or my friend will just say I need to come shooting more to get comfortable with it.

 

[cdyhybrid]

So what should we do?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1319261

 

[Sojgat]

Land of the guns.

 

[Jonm1010]

The Black folks buying firearms in a legal manner arent using them for drug dealing & crime. Theyre law abiding, middle class folks new to gun ownership. If you wanna worry about something, worry about improper storage of firearms in the family home, cause that leads to fatalities.

Unfortunately that is almost impossible to tell, about any group or any purchase. Afterall, we have no licensing universal requirements, no extensive protocols for proving competency and proficiency and no broad registering and monitoring of gun ownership to ensure proper safety and precautions are met and maintained. A combination of which most other western countries have.

And lets also be clear, lots of gun trafficking in the country starts wth a legal purchase of a firearm. Which is then transported to cities like New York, LA, Chicago or elsewhere and sold at notable mark ups and go into circulation on the black market and contribute to things like rising gun violence in inner-cities.

 

[SlickShoesRUCrazy]

Ya, I have been strongly considering it.

 

[Shpeshal Nick]

I kind of understand the theory here, but correct me if I'm wrong but having a black president didn't appear to stop black people being killed in large numbers did it? Even by the fucking police for God's sake.

Why would having a racist president suddenly increase hate crime?

Is there stats to back any of this up? Not an American. I don't know.

 

[Cindi Mayweather]

Okay, it sounded that way to me at first. Personally, my AR only consists of a small series of parts only considered a firearm by the bare legal definition, since I refuse to have a fully operational weapon in my house without the proper means of storing it. If it ever gets built, I'll probably have my friend lock it in his safe, since it'll hopefully never see use outside of the range near him. I just want people to be resolute in these decisions and not take it lightly, since that's inviting disaster.

As for your purchasing decisions, my advice that you don't purchase anything without at least having one in your hands first. I'm a lefty, so most guns give me problems one way or another, which I have to keep in mind when browsing. That or my friend will just say I need to come shooting more to get comfortable with it.

Definitely taking it lightly. Thanks for the suggestions.

 

[Frozenprince]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1319261

Our oppression and indignity has been met with apathy for to long.

Arming ourselves is a natural step in our own defense.

 

[SilentRob]

If a thread about rising numbers of gun ownership isn't met with disgust and horror and is instead met with the encouragement of forming militias on freaking GAF of all places you now something really, really bad is happening.
Let's see how many months it takes until the NRA recognizes their new customer base. First NRA thread gaining a largely positive response here in...3 months? 2? A few weeks? White supremacy got accepted way, way faster than I thought possible, so maybe NRA will be a liberal powerhouse by sunday?

Our oppression and indignity has been met with apathy for to long.

Arming ourselves is a natural step in our own defense.

Every gun I own is designed to take down animals to be eaten.

Hm.

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

Republicans stay winning, and their NRA overlords are salivating.

 

[Nickle]

Guns are designed to murder, just remember that before you buy one.

 

[Frozenprince]

Guns are designed to murder, just remember that before you buy one.

Every gun I own is designed to take down animals to be eaten.

 

[O.v.e.rlord]

Is GAF becoming pro GUN! FUCK YES! Let's start a OT and talk about how awesome they are.

 

[Jonm1010]

If a thread about rising numbers of gun ownership isn't met with disgust and horror and is instead met with the encouragement of forming militias on freaking GAF of all places you now something really, really bad is happening.






Hm.

I don't now. So far it just seems like the same people that have always had a distinct pro-gun stance are just dominating this thread while most of the dissenting voices haven't really participated(though I guess I count to an extent because I tend to find my way into those threads).

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

Is GAF becoming pro GUN! FUCK YES! Let's start a OT and talk about how awesome they are.

Sad

 

[dark_quota]

Is GAF becoming pro GUN! FUCK YES! Let's start a OT and talk about how awesome they are.

Here is the gun owner thread.

 

[Irnbru]

I've only got a recurve and a compound bow, but due to recent events I've been thinking of upgrading with my bro in law ( he's black and I'm Mexican ) ... so I can How this happens

 

[PeskyToaster]

Wow what a heel turn for GAF. Welcome to the brotherhood, may we all prosper within the warm embrace of the second amendment.

 

[Paracelsus]

Yeah. The problem comes when you have to tell the officer you have a gun and you want to get out of the car without getting murdered. Police is reading this and they're probably smiling about.

 

[CaptainofIndustry]

First, god damn 100?

Any pistol recommendations while you're at it? Even though the Glock advertisement for the Olympic was tone death. . it looked really nice.

I have a Smith & Wesson M&P Shield 9mm. It's a great gun for concealed carry and shoots extremely well. Glock makes a similar size gun, the Glock 43. I've heard good things about it. The Glock 19 is really popular as well. My friend has one. Great gun.

Whatever you buy, spend the money and buy a good gun. Glock, Smith & Wesson, Springfield are all good brands. There are other great brands out there, these are the ones I'm somewhat familiar with. I am not, by any stretch of the imagination, an expert. Also, if you plan to carry, buy a holster that fits your gun specifically. Buy a safe to store it in. Take classes, learn to clean it and respect it. Learn your local and state laws.

 

[Psychoward]

I was one of the most anti-gun people around before this election. Now... obviously I still want much stricter laws and whatnot but before I was all for banning all gun sales, now I'm not so sure...

Then again personally I don't think I could ever own one.

 

[O.v.e.rlord]

stay away from anything called highpoint!

 

[Mr. Giggles]

America is a scary place.

 

[Kettch]

Yeah. The problem comes when you have to tell the officer you have a gun and you want to get out of the car without getting murdered. Police is reading this and they're probably smiling about.

I wouldn't say they're smiling about it, but this is a very real danger. As well as inevitable home accidents. I hope as many as possible stay safe. :/

 

[Cindi Mayweather]

I don't now. So far it just seems like the same people that have always had a distinct pro-gun stance are just dominating this thread while most of the dissenting voices haven't really participated(though I guess I count to an extent because I tend to find my way into those threads).

I was one of the most anti-gun people around before this election. Now... obviously I still want much stricter laws and whatnot but before I was all for banning all gun sales, now I'm not so sure...

Then again personally I don't think I could ever own one.

I still think gun laws should be more strict and require more detailed background checks I'm at a point where I feel one is needed for self defense. I will never shoot to kill. I'm not sure of the least likely place that wouldn't kill. But I wouldn't want to do that. Self defense isn't bad, aiming to kill in self defense is a lot more murky.

 

[Xe4]

I'm not a fan of anyone buying guns, considering the astounding number already in America. But if racists have them and are putting minorities lives in danger, then I can see why they're protecting themselves.

At the very least, hopefully these people get the training required and keep it in a safe, especially if they have kids.

Really, in the long term, we need to drastically cut down on those who have guns and ensure that they are only with those who have the right state of mind and background. This would have the benefit of increasing costs on burner guns, seeing as the majority of those are legally bought initially.

Dream: Guns are a symbol of black oppression, if blacks have guns they can stand up to their white oppressors.
Reality: Spike in black-on-black gun violence.

Maybe, just maybe they'll scare some white gun-folk into reconsidering their hardline positions but I doubt it, probably better to hope for learning diversity through new NRA members.

Same thing when white people buy guns. The majority of violence is against those within your race and socioeconomic status, seeing as that's who people see the most.

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

I still think gun laws should be more strict and require more detailed background checks I'm at a point where I feel one is needed for self defense. I will never shoot to kill. I'm not sure of the least likely place that wouldn't kill. But I wouldn't want to do that. Self defense isn't bad, aiming to kill in self defense is a lot more murky.

NRA is absolutely loving your paranoia.