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He's not lying. I'm pro gun and I'm for common sense legislation. There are a lot of us.
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Gun store owners 'seeing up to four times as many black and minority customers'
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He's not lying. I'm pro gun and I'm for common sense legislation. There are a lot of us.
BronsonLee
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You son of a bitc-
Mammoth Jones
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Except there's a clear fucking documented history of racial violence against minorities in this country.
Stop arrogantly dismissing shit.
Frozenprince
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Like all those lynchings and murders never happened.
White nationalists being emboldened by Trump and lashing out with hate crimes isn't a conspiracy theory, it's the news.
DontBeThatGuy
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Great. But guess what? It doesn't matter. The power lies elsewhere.
I generally believe in the right to own firearms but with more restrictions. I think tons of people think this way. The NRA does not represent America as much as you may think
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All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
Good. They've been systematically failed by legislators, police, and now it's going to get worse before it gets better with Mr. Fascist-in-chief and his inspiration to extremists everywhere. No time for the hand wringing from folk who have no idea what's it like to be in these straits. Self-defense is a practical measure of preservation when all other practical means have starkly failed. I'm trans, if I was in the States and permitted to carry, I'd make it a priority.
DontBeThatGuy
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Please tell me how a simple background check makes people lose their fucking minds, spouting off paranoia and peddling propaganda, if the NRA mindset doesn't represent a significant portion of this country. Who's to blame here?
Mammoth Jones
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They been talking for YEARS about how to get into the mainstream. Re-branding White Supremacy has been a long process. Most don't use selg heil and all that nazi shit directly. So many more obfuscate their true intentions because they need mainstream credibility and resources.
What's that quote about dude saying "Can't say nigger anymore so we talk all this obscure economic shit that means the same thing"?
DontBeThatGuy
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Gun sales go up.
Superkamikaze
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Wut...
Gun up, it's within everyone's right. But I think post election most Americans are just going back to the grind that is life.
Frozenprince
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It's cute how people wanna lecture others about this like they need to worry about a mob showing up at their door with a rope.
Lynchings aren't some bygone dead torture of a dead era. This shit happens TODAY.
Lynchings aren't some bygone dead torture of a dead era. This shit happens TODAY.
DontBeThatGuy
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This thread almost feels like a propaganda machine. It would almost be funny if it weren't sad as fuck. This Country isn't getting better.
Average people don't lose their minds
Google shows 90+% polling for expanded background checks
(one poll showed 92% for expanded and 46% for the same/reduced, to be fair, but in aggregate it's reasonable to conclude background checks are generally popular)
Frozenprince
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Right, not a tank, might as well be to a bunch of people living in a fucking US city, but technically not a tank I suppose.
Congrats. You're technically right.
DontBeThatGuy
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Average people don't lose their minds
Yeah, I remember a majority of people in Maine being in favor of background checks too... Guess what happened?
Here's an article about post-election hate crimes that includes a map.
As for the tanks, are you saying that militarized police didn't roll up in armored vehicles in the wake of Ferguson and the like?
What if someone's idea of life includes oppressing people based on the color of their skin? There are plenty of folks trying to get back to that right now.
Frozenprince
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No shit this country isn't getting better. Was election a white nationalist not enough of a sign of that?
Mammoth Jones
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You really need to read some history.
And they didn't need a tank. They just dropped a bomb from the air.
This country never changed. The Obama years were just a nice sugar coated topping for us to munch on.
You're goddamn right it isn't getting better. It won't be for at least two years.
People need to watch out for themselves.
So you're another person pretending that racists are boogeymen. Gotcha.
Cindi Mayweather
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Ahahaha getting better? It's gonna get worse before it gets better.
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All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
"Taking cues from?" Nah man, it's worse than that, he's appointing them to his cabinet.
Frozenprince
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Mammoth Jones
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That's the worst fucking part to me. That's a huge dog whistle. Can't even call it a dog whistle. It's just a nod to all those fucks that Trump hears ya and got your back.
Frozenprince
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The attorney general is literally a fucking racist. Like, there's no debate about it he's a fucking racist.
How is anything supposed to get better?
Superkamikaze
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I'm suggesting that perhaps not everyone is insane and going to allow some crazy race war or whatever people think is going to happen.
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Go read them racist forums. Them mofos is straight up itching for a good ole boy "purge" of "undesirables". How you think this happened:
I mean, there are Republicans and NRA supporters doing literally exactly the same thing you just did after school shootings to advocate for (more) guns in schools and classrooms as if that would have made them more safe. Are you suggesting that carrying a gun in curch and bible studies will make them more safe? Because that is scientifically proven to be false.
I do not deny anything regarding the deeply routed racism of the US. I deny that a gun will help you defend yourself or your family, as it is statistically proven that it makes you and your wife and child more likely to get shot, as I have linked before. You are actively endangering them.
Right, not a tank, might as well be to a bunch of people living in a fucking US city, but technically not a tank I suppose.
Congrats. You're technically right.
And how is your gun going to protect you from that vehicle, exactly?
Frozenprince
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Nobody thinks there's going to be a god damn race war. Jesus.
DontBeThatGuy
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Yeah, sure and where exactly do guns factor into that equation?
SliceSabre
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Good. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this in fact I encourage it considering the times ahead.
Cindi Mayweather
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The hyperbole from people choosing to arm themselves after this election is fucking comedy.
Gaius Cassius
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I'm happy to see more fellow minority gun owners. I'm Puerto Rican, born in NY but grew up in Texas. Owning and shooting guns was just sort of a popular thing there and I've enjoyed it since the age of seven.
What I do not enjoy is the racism within the gun community down here. Case in point, the NRA's lack of a response to the Castille shooting, and I didn't buy Colion Noir's excuse for them. What happened to Mr. Castille was horrific, and I feel it could have just as easily happened to me. It's frightening being a person with brown skin and a CHL license, getting pulled over by a nervous racist redneck cop and knowing he'd love to put you away or down for what you look like. With that said however, I do feel that some of the gun community is getting friendlier to people of color who are pro gun, so I don't see more ownership as a bad thing.
To those of you who are new gun owners, welcome! If I can give any advice, it's to never carry when you're drinking (obviously), never to pull unless you are willing to destroy your target, and to check out Colonel Jeff Cooper's 4 rules on firearm safety, possibly the most important things you should know about handling a firearm. It's nice to not be nearly alone anymore, and I know we'll get through these dark times together.
What I do not enjoy is the racism within the gun community down here. Case in point, the NRA's lack of a response to the Castille shooting, and I didn't buy Colion Noir's excuse for them. What happened to Mr. Castille was horrific, and I feel it could have just as easily happened to me. It's frightening being a person with brown skin and a CHL license, getting pulled over by a nervous racist redneck cop and knowing he'd love to put you away or down for what you look like. With that said however, I do feel that some of the gun community is getting friendlier to people of color who are pro gun, so I don't see more ownership as a bad thing.
To those of you who are new gun owners, welcome! If I can give any advice, it's to never carry when you're drinking (obviously), never to pull unless you are willing to destroy your target, and to check out Colonel Jeff Cooper's 4 rules on firearm safety, possibly the most important things you should know about handling a firearm. It's nice to not be nearly alone anymore, and I know we'll get through these dark times together.
DontBeThatGuy
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I see hyperbole alright.
Yep. Lot of ineffectual white people who can't handle the fact that they've failed minorities systematically and that, yet again, those minorities have to protect themselves and not rely on white folk getting anything done.
smokeandmirrors
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i generally still disagree with it and don't support it but....
this is the reason (and Trump) ive very quickly realized i was too idealistic
Cindi Mayweather
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How is it hyperbole to use my right to own a gun exactly?
Frozenprince
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Rats Off To Ya
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Eh. I understand the impulse and I'm not even saying it's wrong, necessarily, but further proliferation of gun ownership just makes me uncomfortable. But I guess this country is just too far gone in that respect.
A Link to the Past
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Minorities know what happens when the majority group becomes emboldened in a society that has a less-than-pleasant view of those groups.
If anything should make you uncomfortable it's neo-Nazis in the President's cabinet.
LookAtMeGo
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Good. If you have a means to make yourself feel more safe your own country then by all means go for it. I'd be arming myself to the teeth.
Its not like minorities need it for intimidation, thats always been there just cause they are minorities. This is for protection.
Its not like this is the first time a call to arms has happened. History is just repeating itself.
Its not like minorities need it for intimidation, thats always been there just cause they are minorities. This is for protection.
Its not like this is the first time a call to arms has happened. History is just repeating itself.
Of course I am.
Change needs to start at the top, and i can't think of a better term for minorities under a Trump presidency than victims. Unfortunately it is changing for the worse, lucky us.
As i said, I won't buy a gun, and statistically minorities buying guns mean that i as a minority am more likely to get shot. But as some kind posters have already linked in this thread (Negros with Guns I can attest is a really eye opening book), it's a part of our history and is gonna continue to be. So much hand wringing at one symptom of a (huge) problem is meaningless.
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