OfficerRaichu15
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1.5 million on media create without digital. Probably
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What? No matter what your feelings are on the Japanese market, there is a lot to discuss. There is no need to turn blind eye on this.
I expect DQXI to not release until the end of 2017. So by then, the 3DS will probably have lost a lot of its appeal and the PS4 will likely continue to struggle at selling anything. So, unless the Switch is shaking up the market, I don't know. I'm not expecting a bomba like FFXV, but maybe the three millions will be harder to reach this time.
Sony is a Japanese company and PS4 is sold in Japan right? These Japanese publishers are supporting PS4 because of its worldwide sales right ?Bigger boost for the PS4 than I expected. RIP FF, not too surprising sadly, and XV doesn't seem like it will stop the franchise decline.
Good numbers for Mario Maker and 3DS!
3DS!
In other news, this is a thread focused on the japanese market
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Almost certainty bro
May I know what pandering are you talking about ?
Days like these...
Have a Blessed Day
That's some damning with faint praise. Shitting on the entire Japanese market to feel better about ffxv's numbers not a good look. Lol
Well this is way too optimistic, digital numbers won't be that high.
What lesson is that?
OfficerRaichu15
Member
Yeah I know I didnt know 13's numbers but seeing them change my mind. This is not good at all. Lol
That's why I called it optimistic because 200k sounded too good to be true.
3DS will have lost its appeal ? What does that even mean ? People who own a 3DS and wanna play Dragon Quest XI on it...suddenly wont buy it because of "lost appeal" ?
In Japan? The current sales numbers of FFXV pretty much seal the deal.
Sony is a Japanese company and PS4 is sold in Japan right? These Japanese publishers are supporting PS4 because of its worldwide sales right ?
Considering that most of "these Japanese publishers" have supported the PS4 before it even released, I'm not so sure.
Western sales might alleviate some losses, but I don't think many companies are happy about the situation. I'm sure when S-E announced FFXV for PS4 they hoped for more at this point.
Gotdatmoney
Member
There is literally nothing impressive about FF15's sales. There are WiiU titles that will have outsold this game when all said and done. Japanese market may be contracting but are we suppose to believe one of the biggest franchises in Japan goes from selling 1.5 million to 700k amd that is not a disasterous result?
Katana_Strikes
Member
About as good as can be expected for XV and about what it deserves.
Seem Japanese people hate this game, and I'm not talking only on Amazon.
1st Course
Member
Add digital sales + best version sales and it should get there.
There is no chance of Final Fantasy XV coming close to Splatoon in Japan.
gundamkyoukai
Member
FFXV will most likely crawl to near a 1 million with DD in Japan .
The question for SE is if Asia going to help make up some of the Japan sales.
Since the market look like it gotten bigger .
The question for SE is if Asia going to help make up some of the Japan sales.
Since the market look like it gotten bigger .
But who exactly did they pander to? It wasn't the oldschool FF fans because it isn't turn based at all. It wasn't the Versus fans because there was no Stella. It wasn't the Type-0 fans because you can only play Noctis. It wasn't open world fans because they can't compete with western studios. It wasn't perverts because there's nothing that's actually raunchy.
Who was FFXV for? Whoever it was for in Japan, there clearly aren't many of them.
Cornbread78
Member
Unless my math is wrong, the attach rate for FF has dropped in half with FFXV as well.
PS4 + PS4 Pro: 3,745,026
3745026/ 690471= 18%
PS3 = 4.276.480
1501964/4276480 = 35%
Attach Rate for PS4: 18%
Attach Rate for PS3: 35%
This would be the number keeping SE up at night...
PS4 + PS4 Pro: 3,745,026
3745026/ 690471= 18%
PS3 = 4.276.480
1501964/4276480 = 35%
Attach Rate for PS4: 18%
Attach Rate for PS3: 35%
This would be the number keeping SE up at night...
Greninja96
Banned
Last week
14./02. [3DS] Pokemon Sun / Moon Dual Pack {Pokemon Sun \ Pokemon Moon} <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2016.11.18} (¥9.960) - 6.113 / 157.492 (-96%)
total over 2.5 million. pretty much on bar with X/Y, and I believe we can all agree that Sun and moon will have bigger digital sales.
14./02. [3DS] Pokemon Sun / Moon Dual Pack {Pokemon Sun \ Pokemon Moon} <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2016.11.18} (¥9.960) - 6.113 / 157.492 (-96%)
total over 2.5 million. pretty much on bar with X/Y, and I believe we can all agree that Sun and moon will have bigger digital sales.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
Well, monhun portable 3 did almost 5 million sales on the psp in japan alone six years after the psp came out.
If the game's good enough, the DQ name should get it there.
Hm. What I'm saying is that people maybe will not want to play a 3DS game in late 2017. I'm not basing this on any statistics or numbers, just feelings. It's an already way too old system for today, and it can only be worse by the time comes. My point is, maybe the 3DS userbase will just go to mobile if the Switch can't manage to keep them. And Dragon Quest XI isn't releasing on mobile.
How much more can you appeal to Japanese fans other than characters that look like they're from a boy band and Cup Noodles?
We were all focusing on Splatoon vs Persona.
I would suggest that a significant chunk of the 3DS audience in Japan aren't ones for whom the concept of a 'too old system' is particularly meaningful. If anything I'm more worried about whether the Switch can entice that audience sufficiently well early on.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Whys that?
Should of pandered to the Versus fans. In seriousness, I don't think you need to pander to a crowd however FFXV did lack a clear direction.
gundamkyoukai
Member
yep this is FFXV main problem by trying to get appeal to every group it hurt the game.
This is something people have been saying for a long time.
Digital is irrelevant for Pokemon. Even if it somehow triples it over X/Y it's still sub-100k for first week.
Mr. Pointy
Member
That's pretty bad for a mainline FF. DQXI better dig SE out of the hole they're falling in.
Digging out of a hole requires that you dig up.
Digging out of a hole requires that you dig up.
At this point it would be crazy to try to appeal to Japanese fans over western fans when developing a AAA project.
SE has mobile, don't worry about them.
Good question. It seems they tried to please everyone all at once and we all know how that usually turns out.
Newtype-001
Member
I wonder how well other parts of asia will do for them
gundamkyoukai
Member
Well for one thing have some female characters you can play .
This does not go for only Japan only .
Plus this game lacking a whole bunch of things that make FF a FF game.
No matter which side of the world you on .
Nah this will still sell 450 to 500k more than persona in japan .
Greninja96
Banned
Legs is what matters for Pokemon.
I really doubt this entry will have better legs than X/Y, especially considering switch is on the way
I thought Cidney was created to pander to the Japanese audience? I haven't been paying attention to the game for quite a while so I don't know if she's not as prominent as I thought she would be.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
cel shade it, add atb battles.
Cornbread78
Member
Legs is what matters for Pokemon.
I really doubt this entry will have better legs than X/Y, especially considering switch is on the way
And I think the other way around. X/Y's LTD is 4,2-4,3m at retail.
Breaks not only series records all around the world but Nintendo records as well. Can't even beat XY in Japan
Oh, it did? Any articles/numbers on that? Didn't hear anything yet.