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Marvel Vs. Capcom: Infinite Characters and Stages Roster Discussion Thread

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Zaverious

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tribal24 said:
I think Nero is the given and Dante will be DLC. Nero as he is a new character and has fans, Dante will be the DLC a majority of people want for their first batch of DLC.
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That'd probably have a bigger out roar than no Mega Man in MvC3 lol . They can pull that DLC veterans jank with characters like Vergil though. He's not essential enough to a base roster for crossovers but popular enough that people will pay big bucks for him.
 
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Neoxon

Junior Member
tribal24 said:
When you think about it Nero would be a new character similar sword person with new moves, Best way to get people to buy a season pass or buy a character they don't think will do well is pair them with Dante.
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They already have the X-Men for that (assuming that Ryce's sources are on the money), though that's likely a situation that Capcom was forced into due to Marvel Entertainment's recent business practices. That said, if you thought Mega Man not being in (U)MvC3 was bad, imagine Dante being reserved for DLC. He'll be in the base roster.
 
T

tribal24

Banned
Zaverious said:
That'd probably have a bigger out roar than no Mega Man in MvC3 lol . They can pull that DLC veterans jank with characters like Vergil though. He's not essential enough to a base roster for crossovers but popular enough that people will pay big bucks for him.
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i don't know I'm not making a ban bet but it wouldn't surprise me that Dante is not in the base game for Nero trade off.
 
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Sesha

Member
Keep in mind Itsuno is the one that signs off on the use of DMC characters in crossovers. I doubt he would okay Dante as DLC.
 
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Mr. Smiley

Member
Nero as the supposed new face of DMC wasn't even in either PxZ games. They're not gonna headline him in the base roster just cause he's new.
 
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BassForever

Member
Yeah after the backlash of no mega man in either version of mvc3 I doubt capcom is gonna let another major lead star be skipped like that.
 
Jawmuncher

Jawmuncher

Member
Sesha said:
Keep in mind Itsuno is the one that signs off on the use of DMC characters in crossovers. I doubt he would okay Dante as DLC.
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I mean, I'm sure there's some higher entity at capcom that looks over such things as well. But yeah, ultimately they probably go "if itsuno is cool with it, it's fine".
 
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Sesha

Member
AFAIK Nero hasn't appeared in any crossover material at all outside of that one mobile game, unless I'm misremembering and he wasn't there either.
 
D

Doctrine Dark

Member
https://www.reddit.com/r/mvci/comments/5le778/happy_new_leaks/

Prefacing this: Both side's MvCI rosters include DLC. I actually have no idea who is launch because it's still up in the air sans no X-Men. My MvCI info is around 3 months old btw. Source said wait til New Year's to leak. I wanted to do this on Xmas. With that said...

MARVEL: Iron Man, Captain America, Captain Marvel, Ms Marvel, Thor, Loki, Hulk, Hawkeye, Black Panther, Black Widow, Ant-Man, Spider-Man, Venom, Daredevil, Iron Fist, Luke Cage, Ghost Rider, Punisher, Ultron, Thanos, Star-Lord, Rocket (w/Groot), Doctor Strange, Gwenpool, Squirrel Girl, Fing Fang Foom (Giant Character), Wolverine, Magneto, Storm, and Doctor Doom.

CAPCOM: Ryu, Rashid, Chun-Li, Zangief, Gill, Morrigan, Talbain, Tessa, Mega Man X, Sigma, Roll, Strider, Jin, Captain Commando, Edward Falcon, Asura, Gene, Dante, Leon, Ada, Wesker, Nina (BoF2), Spencer, Simon Blackquill, Phoenix Wright, Rathalos (Giant Character), Masamune Date, Batsu, June, and Frank West.
Cinematic trailer is indeed Ultron infected with the Sigma Virus and the main villain of MvCI.

Wolverine, Magneto, Storm, and Doom are all DLC and not making the base roster.
Some Street Fighter characters might be held off on MvCI as DLC to make an X-Men vs Street Fighter DLC themed pack.

MvCI's director Norio Hirose wanted the Capcom cast from MvC to return since he programmed that. Hence why they're part of MvCI (except Mega Man is Mega Man X instead).

Ono suggested Ingrid and R. Mika for MvCI.

Combofiend suggested and got Spencer on MvCI in at his own request, as the team obliged.

Phoenix Wright was almost nixed on in favor of only Simon. The team felt he was a failed idea on UMvC3, but wanted to redeem him. They choose Simon because he's more straightforward and relevant (AA5 & 6). Franziska hasn't been on any lately, so no priority.

More than one BoF character was considered for MvCI. Bleu and Fou-Lu namely. Bleu almost got in with Nina. Katt, Rei, and Garr were all considered as well. Ryu never was. For fans of it, if you want more Breath of Fire characters later on MvCI, make noise. They'll listen.

Dante isn't based on DmC (reboot) version, but classic Dante for those who are worried.

Dante isn't based on the reboot version because DMC5 will be announced in 2017.

Batsu almost got passed over in favor of Akira and Yurika as the Rival Schools rep.

Edward Falcon was included on because Power Stone fit the Infinity Stone motif AND

Power Stone is coming back.

Leon was included to hype up the RE2 REmake.

They went with Tessa over a 3rd Darkstalkers character because of her storyline connection with Doctor Strange (which was previously teased on UMvC3) that they want to expand upon in a meaningful way. Both are scientists who dabble in magic with an interest in the unknown.

Masamune Date got in to appease the Japanese fanbase and garner interest from them.

When it comes to Zero's exclusion, as far as I know, Zero's getting the Mega Man treatment this time around. Which is an odd exclusion given X is there. And back to 2vs2. But Zero got in TvC and both versions of MvC3 without X. So maybe that's their view? I can only assume they thought 3 MMX characters were too many. Zero might show up in the story mode though. I haven't heard anything for or against it, actually.

But hold hope for that and DLC maybe. It'd honestly be surprising if Zero didn't even show up in the story. But X is the one of the focal storyline characters on MvCI, so they could be looking at it like not wanting to take away from X's glory. X might've been chosen and highlighted in such a way in spite of Zero. I'm really not sure. But Zero's exclusion, to me, seems to be the head scratching disappointment like Mega Man's was on both MvC3s.

Howard the Duck almost got in in place of Squirrel Girl. He just barely missed the roster, but fan demand could easily get him on MvCI.

As said, Rocket now has Groot included as an assist like Maya does for Wright in his moveset on MvCI.

Ant-Man is no longer in Hawkeye's MvCI Hyper. Hawkeye has a brand new one entirely. Wasp is in Ant-Man's moveset btw.

There will be characters not in MvCI's launch roster nor current DLC plans in the story mode ala SFV.

Akuma isn't part of the roster or even planned at the moment as far as I know. Could change though. I'd assume Akuma could make it in because of possible XvsSF pack plans.

Fans will likely wind up dictating more X-Men DLC than the 3 they have planned. They are aware of that already. I wouldn't be surprised if they launch with only Ryu and Rashid. And then make Chun, Gief and Gill DLC in that XvsSF pack since 3 of each that way.

Lastly, my name is actually a hint as to when it comes out... At least that's the aim internally, barring any issues that arise.
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Only time will tell...

Yeah, I don't believe this list. Making Chun-Li into a DLC character sounds odd as a possibility. I also don't see anything resembling a potential Capcom villain that Ryce hinted at.
 
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Mr. Smiley

Member
Batsu almost got passed over in favor of Akira
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If this is true, I just don't know how to feel.

Everything else pushes plenty of my right buttons, so naturally I'll assume its 100% bullshit.

Edit: Still no Regina. Maybe there is some truth to it. :I
 
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Magnet_Man

Member
I'm gonna go team fake. "Wait until New Years to leak"? What an arbitrary stipulation. "The game was announced on the 5th. Wait 26 days? That's too soon! Are you crazy! What's that, 27 days? Perfect."
 
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CommandThrower

Member
I call fake on that list. Simon Blackquill as a character? I love unorthodox roster choices, but what the hell would Capcom be thinking if they really added Simon Blackquill as a character?


I also call bullshit on a 60 character roster. The Marvel 2 days are over.
 
R

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
fake but still gave me a imaginary boner. 60 character base roster ayyyyyyyyyy
 
M

Mr. Smiley

Member
60 characters is possible (like barely with the reuse assets they seem to be doing) but that really, really depends on how long term Capcom's planning with their DLC.

Rhaknar said:
fake but still gave me a imaginary boner. 60 character base roster ayyyyyyyyyy
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Leaker says his character lists include dlc.
 
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CommandThrower

Member
Smooth Operator said:
They're reussing assets from Marvel 3, a 60~ character roster is not impossible.
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I should clarify, in that I don't think we'll get a roster of 50+ characters at launch. I predict as many characters as we got in Vanilla Marvel 3 on launch. Eventual DLC will push the roster up to perhaps be bigger than Ultimate Marvel 3.
 
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Mista Koo

Member
Cool list, a bunch of characters I want: Ms Marvel, Gwenpool, Squirrel Girl, Rashid, Masamune Date. Akira getting snubbed for Batsu and another AA rep instead of Sissel hurt because I see them doing that.

The most interesting inclusion is June. You wouldn't expect anyone making a roster to choose her over Hayato, although she is totally a better choice from a unique movesets perspective. Her inclusion makes me think there is some truth in there.
 
R

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
to channel Chandler Bing tho:

"could that list BE any more fan centric?" hence why its obviously fake.

characters that everyone requests like Asura, Gene and Captain Cmmando who has zero reason to be included from a marketing standpoint. Characters from Rival Schools, Breath of Fire and Monster Hunter? Come on now...
 
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Mista Koo

Member
Rhaknar said:
to channel Chandler Bing tho:

"could that list BE any more fan centric?" hence why its obviously fake.

characters that everyone requests like Asura, Gene and Captain Cmmando who has zero reason to be included from a marketing standpoint. Characters from Rival Schools, Breath of Fire and Monster Hunter? Come on now...
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2 Ghosts 'n Goblins characters? 3 Darkstalkers characters? 3 pre-reboot DMC characters?
2 Mega Man characters?
 
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ZeroTheShadow

Member
So the fake list guy really thinks there will be only ONE DMC character? Fat chance lol That list has way too many new characters on the Capcom side. Capcom is going to be rehashing shit from MVC3 like crazy. Expect almost every Capcom character from UMVC3 to return.
 
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Mr. Smiley

Member
I thought Simon was that other Ace Attorney protagonist but I guess not. I know dick about AA so is Simon like a super popular character somewhere?

Tizoc said:
He has an invisible katana.
Which he brings to court with him.
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CommandThrower said:
God, no. Simon is the prosecutor of the first AA game on the 3DS.

His character is that he's a convicted murderer(a criminal prosecutor) who acts like a no nonsense samurai, despite being British(he's basically a huge weaboo). He also has a bird...which, would make him like Nakoruru if he actually ended up being a character in a fighting game.
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huh
I should really get on to trying these games out.
 
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CommandThrower

Member
Mr. Smiley said:
I thought Simon was that other Ace Attorney protagonist but I guess not. I know dick about AA so is Simon like a super popular character somewhere?
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God, no. Simon is the prosecutor of the first AA game on the 3DS.

His character is that he's a convicted murderer(a criminal prosecutor) who acts like a no nonsense samurai, despite being British(he's basically a huge weaboo). He also has a bird...which, would make him like Nakoruru if he actually ended up being a character in a fighting game.
 
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NotLiquid

Member
Imagine Simon Blackquill as a Vergil replacement though, lol.

I can believe a second AA rep. What I don't really believe is Zangief and Gill being in. Feels like too much SF reps in a game that's more resource intensive than MvC2.
 
JediLink

JediLink

Member
You know what, after mulling it over I'm totally on board for Blackquill now. It's so ridiculous I can't help but smile imagining it. He has a sick theme too.

Mr. Smiley said:
I thought Simon was that other Ace Attorney protagonist but I guess not. I know dick about AA so is Simon like a super popular character somewhere?
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You're thinking of Apollo. This is Blackquill:

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He has a disadvantage in that he's from (IMO) the worst game in the series so I don't remember him too favourably, but in hindsight he's probably a more interesting character than Franziska (the most commonly suggested choice for a second AA rep). I'm still pulling for Franzy though, if only for nostalgia and the chance to have another lady on the roster.
 
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NotLiquid

Member
If the list is true I'm sad Akira isn't a Rival Schools rep. It's one of the cooler designs Capcom have.

Rhaknar said:
to channel Chandler Bing tho:

"could that list BE any more fan centric?" hence why its obviously fake.
If
characters that everyone requests like Asura, Gene and Captain Cmmando who has zero reason to be included from a marketing standpoint. Characters from Rival Schools, Breath of Fire and Monster Hunter? Come on now...
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Gene was almost in MvC3 supposedly, or at the very least he was really high up in the character poll, which they used as justification for X's inclusion.
 
Jawmuncher

Jawmuncher

Member
Blackquill would finally get some character in a fighting game. He was beyond boring As a prosecutor.
Still I highly doubt that list.

I doubt even ryce's guy has given him everything.
 
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Kouichi

Member
While I don't believe this leak, I do think Simon is probably the likeliest second AA rep. A prosecutor as the second rep makes the most sense and, like the "leaker" says, his character would be the easiest to translate into a fighting game moveset, just like Franziska back when they were planning her in Tatsunoko. But this time his relevancy trumps hers. Of course, Edgeworth makes even more sense if we go by that, but he would require another strange moveset like Phoenix. I could see it happen, but, just like with Tatsunoko, I bet they'll take the easier route.

Honestly, aside form boring old Nahyuta, any prosecutor would be an awesome addition. Franziska is my personal pick though.
 
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Seyavesh

Member
lol, dormammu isn't even on that list

they are gonna recycle the shit out of everything they possibly can and almost all of that list not being in mvc3 is enough of a sign to show its fake
 
Jawmuncher

Jawmuncher

Member
Kouichi said:
While I don't believe this leak, I do think Simon is probably the likeliest second AA rep. A prosecutor as the second rep makes the most sense and, like the "leaker" says, his character would be the easiest to translate into a fighting game moveset, just like Franziska back when they were planning her in Tatsunoko. But this time his relevancy trumps hers. Of course, Edgeworth makes even more sense if we go by that, but he would require another strange moveset like Phoenix. I could see it happen, but, just like with Tatsunoko, I bet they'll take the easier route.

Honestly, aside form boring old Nahyuta, any prosecutor would be an awesome addition. Franziska is my personal pick though.
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I still think Franziska has a higher chance as a second AA rep. Even if she isn't as relevant, she's definitely a more popular pick than blackquill. Which they aren't opposed to doing.
 
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Pieman0920

Member
As a general rule of thumb, I don't trust leaks that say they know information about the decision process behind character selection. I don't believe any of them have ever turned out to be real either. Given the focus on the Capcom side, this information would likely have to come from someone important to the game in Capcom's actual development offices, rather than someone in their western offices. Usually it seems leaks come from testers however, who shouldn't know a thing about why characters got in or didn't get in.
 
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Seven Force

Banned
Power Stone coming back as a series makes the list pretty obviously fake. (FWIW, I do think there might be a Power Stone character making the roster.)

That said, I do like the idea of including Leon to hype up the RE2 remake.
 
Jawmuncher

Jawmuncher

Member
Village said:
yep

thats some king k rool shit.

Speaking of which, given switch mario kart has new characters, its time for that shit to start up for smash again
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Will not surprise me if the switch direct has smash with at least one new character revealed.

Hell knowing my luck I'll get Regina in smash, and snake somehow in MVCI. Wouldn't even be mad.
 
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