Yeah, this is going to be the next point of speculation. Could the Switch be priced higher than expected because along with the Sterling, the US Dollar will probably plummet and cause the Yen to be even stronger? I guess that's great for imports but a majority of Japan's businesses suffered losses this year because of exchange rates.
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Nintendo Switch Presentation - January 12th
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Yeah, this is going to be the next point of speculation. Could the Switch be priced higher than expected because along with the Sterling, the US Dollar will probably plummet and cause the Yen to be even stronger? I guess that's great for imports but a majority of Japan's businesses suffered losses this year because of exchange rates.
Skittzo0413
Member
I would think markets would stabilize by March, though there might be another few days of volatility around inauguration day.
We all need more Nintendo in our lives now more than ever
Unless Trump starts his mandate with a bang, like dropping trade agreements and such.
Perhaps people understand now why Nintendo didn't want to lock themselves in to pricing for Switch until January.
Skittzo0413
Member
Yeah uncertainty is the name of the game from now on. This sucks.
Plus they typically only give launch price 2 months ahead anyway. People expecting otherwise haven't been paying attention apparently.
Wandering Robot
Member
It's sad that it even has to come to this. On the bright side, we'll hopefully be too enraptured by the Switch (and Zelda and whatever else) to dwell too much on the outside world once March comes around.
Laura is the hero we needed today.
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U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
I had a dream about the Switch last night. It has Wiimote support.
Also for some reason I wasn't playing it in my house. I was playing it in that house at the start of the Switch trailer. Weird.
Also for some reason I wasn't playing it in my house. I was playing it in that house at the start of the Switch trailer. Weird.
I don't think it is fair way. I don't want to trade in my (release day) Wii U. I will still need that to play most (if not all) of my Wii U games, not to mention my Wii games (I sold my Wii's when I got the Wii U).
Nintendo know I have a Wii U and what games I have (as they are the only games they will let me review for the eshop). If Nintendo want me to buy a Switch, offer me a big discount and I will consider it !!
TangorFopper
Member
Charles Martinet's IMDB page talks about Galaxy 3 and Sunshine HD.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0553409/
Anybody knows how reliable is IMDB? Who is putting the data in the pages? It's not supposed to be a "open wiki" right?
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0553409/
Anybody knows how reliable is IMDB? Who is putting the data in the pages? It's not supposed to be a "open wiki" right?
Herb Alpert
Banned
It is not reliable at all.
I mean, with the Switch controllers supposedly having analog triggers, I feel like that game is a given at that point.
NinjaCoachZ
Member
Anyone can add anything to IMDB.
are you telling me 50 Cent didn't play Epona in Twilight Princess?
Herb Alpert
Banned
He debunked the rumour on his Facebook.
James Scott
Banned
6 months would be the launch window, correct?
LPVG and MVC both cited 6 months the target date for:
*New Mario
*Breath of the Wild
*Pokemon
*Smash 4 Switch
6 months would be from March to September. Having their 4 of their biggest franchises out by then sounds pretty crazy.
I wonder how accurate that is,can't imagine they have something much bigger in store for October/November
RETRO Studios' latest project should be out next year. Not sure how big it is seeing as their last title was a 2D Platformer sequel, but they have had 3 years and 9 months to put it out by November 2017 which is the most time they've needed to put out new software ever.
LPVG and MVC both cited 6 months the target date for:
*New Mario
*Breath of the Wild
*Pokemon
*Smash 4 Switch
6 months would be from March to September. Having their 4 of their biggest franchises out by then sounds pretty crazy.
I wonder how accurate that is,can't imagine they have something much bigger in store for October/November
RETRO Studios' latest project should be out next year. Not sure how big it is seeing as their last title was a 2D Platformer sequel, but they have had 3 years and 9 months to put it out by November 2017 which is the most time they've needed to put out new software ever.
they love to have a big game for the holiday every november. if it's true that they're releasing all 4 of these franchises in the first 6 months, doesn't leave much for the holiday.
maybe mario kart port? or a crazy 3D Mario + Switch bundle for the holiday/black friday.
And Reggie as 'The Man'.
Love that that TP cast listing is still the go to example for how bad IMDB can get.
James Scott
Banned
They could have something big that we don't know about.
It's not like we know the full line up yet.
That is assuming the rumors are true and Zelda won't get delayed till then.
WhiteWaterM00se
Member
They are not going to do that. They will view it as a dummy dip. You could sell your Wii U on top of your deal. Reading it in for people who are dissatisfied with Wii U purchase is the only "fair" way.
You shouldn't get to keep your Wii U also. That seems unrealistic to me. What I dont want to see is Nintendo giving people a bunch of virtual consoles games again. Since of is would not have bought them to begin with.
Another idea is for every Wii U owner that buys Switch, gets a free $60 game from Nintendo. Maybe they give you MK8, Zelda, or Mario free. That is more than fair also.
I know in these trying times, everyone is having a hard time grasping the concept of fair.
Don't forget Mario Kart, Splatoon and Animal Crossing (and possibly Mario Maker and Pikmin, for that matter).
Squeezing out as many of their major franchises in the first year actually makes a lot of sense for Nintendo:
- These are Nintendo's "evergreen" franchises which will continue to sell for years after release. The earlier they release them the longer that tail can be.
- Console performance (and particularly third party support) can come down in large part to momentum. If you have a good first year it's much more likely that you'll have a good second year, and so on.
- Mario Kart, Smash Bros, Splatoon, Pokemon and Mario Maker would all be enhanced ports of existing games, while Zelda, Animal Crossing and Pikmin would all have started development on Wii U. This massively reduces the resources required to get all these games in place within the first year.
- Poor sales of the Wii U means there's a large potential audience out there who never got a chance to play MK8, Smash 4 and Splatoon, and these are three games in genres where annualised, iterative sequels are common. Provided a sufficient amount of new features and content, these games could appeal both to people who never owned Wii U as well as to owners of the previous versions.
- Using smaller teams to release games in their main franchises by using the Wii U versions as a base allows Nintendo to dedicate as much of their resources as possible towards bringing out new franchises in years two and three.
James Scott
Banned
Agreed. I know it's smart for them to port titles from Wii U to Switch.
If Sony can honestly say there's a big enough install base on PS4 in comparison to their 80M+ PS3 then the 10M Wii U base will be quite the benefit for Switch.
The evergreen and momentum points make a lot of sense, haven't given that much thought. Hope they have enough for years 2-onwards to keep users satisfied but Nintendo is likely ready to make a splash with the launch window.
My post was originally referring to the launch window (first 6 months) which would leave October-December without a big game. That is unless Nintendo can come up with something bigger than Mario, Pokemon, and Zelda.
Yup most consoles have crap first years anyways, if you can get out that many great remasters in the first year, it helps out a lot. Like you said sales early is what will get 3rd parties to jump in, Ubisoft is prob gonna be the only western 3rd party with a full lineup the first year, the others will have a few games and wait and see approach.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
They'll definitely have something interesting for the holidays, but really if things are going well for them the more important thing is to trumpet the existing lineup for millions of new buyers in its first holiday season.
When they released a major update for years-old 3DS Animal Crossing, I took it as a sign that an actual new one was nowhere near.Thraktor said:
Maybe. To me it looks more like a beta test for all these ideas to see how they function together.
Yeah, I'm using the window from launch to holidays, as I feel that's the more pertinent cutting off point (releasing a game late September vs early October doesn't make much of a difference, but before Christmas vs after Christmas certainly does). I would expect them to spread out their lineup over that period, probably with one major new title dropping around November (possibly Mario, possibly whatever Retro's working on).
Nintendo have said that their Animal Crossing mobile game due early next year will "be connected with the world of Animal Crossing for dedicated gaming systems" and that "by playing both Animal Crossing games, users will find increased enjoyment." That seems much more likely to be referring to a Switch game than New Leaf.
An Animal Crossing game released next year would also have the series's longest-ever turnaround time for mainline titles (at about 5 years) and assuming that there was an AC game in development for Wii U at some stage, it's reasonable to believe that it was moved over to Switch, and would hence be ready pretty early on in the console's lifespan.
As to why Nintendo released a New Leaf update now, I would guess it's a combination of a desire to have some kind of Amiibo push for the holiday season, along with an attempt to build up interest in the series leading up to the reveal of their mobile and (possibly) Switch games.
Or it could be driving home this idea that the 3DS isn't going anywhere and they'll continue making and supporting handheld games this way for the foreseeable future. NS is the home console and the 3DS is the portable. Two different things, two different types of games.
Skittzo0413
Member
To add onto that, Nintendo has said countless times now that the purpose of the mobile games is first and foremost to expose a much larger user base to their IP so that they will be interested in researching those IPs on their dedicated hardware, which will hopefully drive sales of that hardware and software. That can't happen if there is no corresponding software on hardware that they're interested in selling. As much as they say they are continuing to support the 3DS, I believe they are all in on the Switch as of now, and will give the Switch all of the new, optimal experiences for those IP.
So expect to see a Mario game (maybe not the 3D Mario we saw in the trailer, though maybe), a Pokemon game, an Animal Crossing game and a Fire Emblem game on the Switch in a relatively short period of time. I'd say all of those will be released within a year from now in order for Nintendo to get optimal results from the mobile strategy.
Then, whenever they announce a new mobile game, you can expect a corresponding Switch game within months of that mobile game's release.
This is their public message now, before the holiday season where the 3DS still has the chance to make them a decent amount of money. But everything they have been saying internally at their investor meetings has indicated that this is not their long term goal. I would expect them to essentially drop 3DS support by the end of next year.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Bulgaria surely has its own systemic sociopolitical issues, but people like Trump get as far as fringe-party mouthpieces round here. Not the presidency.
James Scott
Banned
Yeah, AC with the miiverse hub and Amiibo festival feels like it had a game in the works at some point. They at least have a lot of HD assets for it.
I'm not sure it'll be year 1, though. A lot of things seem to be year 1, but they need to save stuff for year 2 as well even if we have gone so long without a new AC game.
Skittzo0413
Member
This may just be the optimist in me speaking but I really think we'll be seeing a much greater variety of Nintendo games coming.
Think about it: we have ports of their biggest multiplayer series coming likely close to launch, these series historically have only had one entry per console, and Nintendo has embraced DLC for these games to treat them as a long term platform.
We also have Mario Sports Superstars which seems prime for a Switch port judging by the 3DS character models, and feels a lot like a consolidation of the Mario sports series like Mario Golf and Tennis.
Combine that with the fact that all of Nintendo's teams are working on the same platform and Nintendo have been actively looking to license their IPs with third parties and I honestly can't imagine what they have planned for 2018 and beyond, which is frankly very exciting.
I really expect a lot more variety with new IPs and dormant IPs.
Think about it: we have ports of their biggest multiplayer series coming likely close to launch, these series historically have only had one entry per console, and Nintendo has embraced DLC for these games to treat them as a long term platform.
We also have Mario Sports Superstars which seems prime for a Switch port judging by the 3DS character models, and feels a lot like a consolidation of the Mario sports series like Mario Golf and Tennis.
Combine that with the fact that all of Nintendo's teams are working on the same platform and Nintendo have been actively looking to license their IPs with third parties and I honestly can't imagine what they have planned for 2018 and beyond, which is frankly very exciting.
I really expect a lot more variety with new IPs and dormant IPs.
The StarTropics dream lives?
Your post was a reply to:
I am still trying to remain loyal to the Wii U (and maybe to the Switch as well), but I don't do that by getting rid of it do I ??
Why would it is it fair to give me free a game I already own? I know some people like to buy the same game on multiple platforms but I don't. Unless they are massively upgraded I would be less than pleased with that.
Given Switch's position as a hybrid, and Nintendo's repeated comments over the past few years about merging their software and hardware development teams, about wanting to take after Android and iOS, and about future hardware being "brothers in a family of systems", I think it's safe to say that Switch is the start of that new family, and 3DS will be phased out over the next year. Positioning Switch as a home console is the same as positioning the DS as the "third pillar", it's a get-out clause in case it fails.
I wouldn't expect Fire Emblem on Switch next year, as it would be too quick a turnaround since Fates (although perhaps an enhanced port of Fates, or Awakening+Fates might be plausible). Animal Crossing, 3D Mario and Pokemon Star would all seem like reasonable bets, though.
Their comments about the mobile game working in tandem with the main console game would seem to indicate a small (if any) gap between the release of those two games, though. Animal Crossing also has possibly the longest tail of any of their franchises, so it is one of those games they would benefit from releasing as quickly as possible. I think it's also got the potential to be a good showcase for the hybrid functionality, as well as Switch's new online features like cloud saves, mobile integration, and whatever else they may have cooking up.
I agree, although I would expect more new IPs than revivals. The fact that they seem to be preparing so many enhanced ports of their standard franchises would definitely indicate that they're trying to free up their internal teams for something else.
James Scott
Banned
That's the dream, at least. Not having to make system sequels (MK7->MK8) would either mean a better game with more support or a game that's just as good and the team being put to work to make a different title.
The system's specs allow them to use Wii U level development and do more with it as well allowing them to experiment more since they have the tools and (hopefully) the installbase to back it up this time around.
I think Splatoon's fairly large success likely lit a fire under their ass to try and make new things as well.
They also made a lot of partnerships with the likes of PG and Namco which should help expand their output.
Portability is the selling point, but the games is what's truly going to set it apart
Dark Cloud
Member
I'm not even excited about this anymore. The election has drained me and almost sent me into depression. I've been afraid for a few days now. Lol
Hopefully by January 12th I'll be excited, but to know 10 days later is the inauguration will be on my mind.
Hopefully by January 12th I'll be excited, but to know 10 days later is the inauguration will be on my mind.
Today, we're exactly 2 months away from the Switch presentation.
Kind of funny how fast time flies. It's been almost a month since the first reveal trailer.
Anyway, 2excruciatingexciting months to go
Nah it should go by fast since we're close to the holidays now. Then after New Years.....that's when the waiting is gonna hurt.
I will be a workaholic for the first two months of the year, because I'm going to be taking a LOT of time off for gaming in 2017.
(Mardi Gras and replaying TPHD and SS will also distract me in my free time)
Bring back the classics
Banned
I said that the Switch would be cheap and below 200 pounds , Laura confirms this.
Todays report, backed up by one previously used source and one new source who I have vetted thoroughly, is that UK specialist gaming retail chain GAME has been informed of the Nintendo Switchs wholesale price to retailers, and is planning on selling their basic SKU of the system in stores for £199.99.
It is important to note this is not a Nintendo set RRP, as in the UK manufacturers are not allowed to set RRP prices for consoles. However, it is safe to assume this gives us a solid indication of the price the system will sell at nationwide.
We have also learned that a separate SKU featuring more internal storage and a packed in game is planned to sell at £249.99. We have heard rumours as to what this pack in game is, but we currently have only one source on this information so we are unwilling to talk about that pack in title at this time.
Both our sources have told us that additional Switch Pro Controllers are expected to sell at launch for £39.99 at GAME.
Lastly, we have been told that Nintendo is planning for the Switch to be close to direct conversion price comparable across regions, which we have been told is tied into their push for the system to be region free. This would in theory put the USA price of the system at approximately $249.99 and $299.99 (This is based off conversions, not any insider information).
Todays report, backed up by one previously used source and one new source who I have vetted thoroughly, is that UK specialist gaming retail chain GAME has been informed of the Nintendo Switchs wholesale price to retailers, and is planning on selling their basic SKU of the system in stores for £199.99.
It is important to note this is not a Nintendo set RRP, as in the UK manufacturers are not allowed to set RRP prices for consoles. However, it is safe to assume this gives us a solid indication of the price the system will sell at nationwide.
We have also learned that a separate SKU featuring more internal storage and a packed in game is planned to sell at £249.99. We have heard rumours as to what this pack in game is, but we currently have only one source on this information so we are unwilling to talk about that pack in title at this time.
Both our sources have told us that additional Switch Pro Controllers are expected to sell at launch for £39.99 at GAME.
Lastly, we have been told that Nintendo is planning for the Switch to be close to direct conversion price comparable across regions, which we have been told is tied into their push for the system to be region free. This would in theory put the USA price of the system at approximately $249.99 and $299.99 (This is based off conversions, not any insider information).
NVIDIA seem to have a great relationship with Western third parties. At a bare minimum, we shouldn't see developers diss the Switch like they dissed the Wii and Wii U.
Just got my invite.
Feb. 11 6pm Washington, DC.
I got the initial email which told me to expect a second email from EventBrite but the second email came from Nintendo again and then when you accept it takes you to the EventBrite site/app to reserve your time and get ticket(s).
FYI when you click on "Attend Event" button and you get taken to the EventBrite link you can choose the option for 2 tickets.
Feb. 11 6pm Washington, DC.
I got the initial email which told me to expect a second email from EventBrite but the second email came from Nintendo again and then when you accept it takes you to the EventBrite site/app to reserve your time and get ticket(s).
FYI when you click on "Attend Event" button and you get taken to the EventBrite link you can choose the option for 2 tickets.
PhoenixSFT
Member
Same here, going on Feb. 12th at 10AM in DC with my wife. So excited!